EPT! [G] Stylish's FPVods [06-10 Update] - Page 8
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Dead
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lgd-haze
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On February 05 2009 22:05 meathook wrote: I wonder how often this happens on B level ... I get the impression this is harder to set up in a random ladder game than it seems, he could ask a friend to play this specific scenario though.. When a protoss does this, he is showing you exactly how big a fag he is ready to be to get the win, so you should be very wary of his actions from this point. You should focus on eliminating his scouting probe first and kill his assimilator second. After you kill the assimilator your course of action depends on what the protoss is doing, so you have to scout him. As he has chosen the road of gay already by taking the gas, you should expect more faggotry, but you have to know what kind; most often, it is some sort of power goon build with range upgrade, but it can also be something even more gay like DTs or reavers, like you said. It is not uncommon that the gas steal is a part of a proxy cheese build so after you scout his base you should look around the map (or scout with two scvs). If you see him making ranged goons you can start an academy shortly after you build your refinery and get marine range. Build a bunker at your natural and put your marines inside. The marine range will finish faster than waiting for a tank so you will be safe from the goons if you repair the bunker if he starts attacking it. Ideally, you should wall off the choke, if you are unable/dont have enough buildings, you should just place a depo at the choke to make it more narrow to prevent him from simply running by your bunker. If he is rushing you with zealots and everything he has you should build the bunker in your main, close to your CC, while you wait for tanks/vultures/etc. Hope this helps. EDIT: Oh.. didn't see this: Yeah, but getting academy and marine range is safer, imo.. and you can build your scanners quicker too. I prefer getting the academy as well, so that when your expo finishes, and he stops shooting at your bunker, you can build a medic, and basically push him to his natural (unless he went dt/reaver) using the 6-7 marines you made, 1 medic and the tank. | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
On January 27 2009 09:35 Piy wrote: You know a better way of getting an empty game is to kill all but one of a computers buildings and then save game after you get your minerals down to 50 and have killed all but your cc and 4 scvs. You can then save your build at different points and work it out faster. You do have fewer minerals in your main if you do this though, although you can lift off and go to another main if the map allows it I suppose. The best way to get an empty game is to create a game, put one computer in, hit 'OK' and then close the computer slot before the countdown ends ^^ Thanks for these Stylish, some interesting builds that I didn't know about plus general tips  | ||
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
On February 06 2009 02:37 jello_biafra wrote: The best way to get an empty game is to create a game, put one computer in, hit 'OK' and then close the computer slot before the countdown ends ^^ this is true tho however sometimes when you try to split your workers a screen pops up and asks you if u want to continue the game. So that way you might never get a perfect split :O | ||
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Monokeros
United States2493 Posts
On February 06 2009 08:21 YPang wrote: this is true tho however sometimes when you try to split your workers a screen pops up and asks you if u want to continue the game. So that way you might never get a perfect split :O If you want to work on a perfect split just do a custom game and whenever you mess up (or done splitting) spam f10err (turn off the tips at the start) even though its at normal speed its more about accuracy than speed that most people seem to have problems with. | ||
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Dr.Dragoon
United States1241 Posts
On February 06 2009 12:11 Monokeros wrote: If you want to work on a perfect split just do a custom game and whenever you mess up (or done splitting) spam f10err (turn off the tips at the start) even though its at normal speed its more about accuracy than speed that most people seem to have problems with. Maybe he wants a perfect split when he's practicing his build, but doesn't want to wait until after the pop-up screen because then he'd have to factor in the lateness when he's keeping track of timings. Not a big deal of course, but it's not like the other alternatives have big gaping flaws. | ||
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rwong48
United States105 Posts
On February 06 2009 12:11 Monokeros wrote: If you want to work on a perfect split just do a custom game and whenever you mess up (or done splitting) spam f10err (turn off the tips at the start) even though its at normal speed its more about accuracy than speed that most people seem to have problems with. it's on fast by default, which is the main/only lame part. i do this except usually i hit ++ before i actually split to increase the gamespeed. | ||
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Dead
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Monokeros
United States2493 Posts
On February 06 2009 14:35 Dr.Dragoon wrote: Maybe he wants a perfect split when he's practicing his build, but doesn't want to wait until after the pop-up screen because then he'd have to factor in the lateness when he's keeping track of timings. Not a big deal of course, but it's not like the other alternatives have big gaping flaws. iafter you do the split just press +a few times and you're at max speed, and since its single playerthere are no 'popups' aside the should be disabled tips popup | ||
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Monokeros
United States2493 Posts
On maps like Python or any maps where your 3rd is a mineral only, is there any real change in how the game would play out? Also is there a specific reason why you dont do any FPVODs of 2fact builds, are they too risky and weak at higher levels of play? or have you just not gotten around to it yet  Don't know if I can ever say it enough but , thanks again for your hard work :D | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On February 07 2009 03:59 Monokeros wrote: quick queston regarding 3rd bases when doing the flash build On maps like Python or any maps where your 3rd is a mineral only, is there any real change in how the game would play out? Also is there a specific reason why you dont do any FPVODs of 2fact builds, are they too risky and weak at higher levels of play? or have you just not gotten around to it yet Don't know if I can ever say it enough but , thanks again for your hard work :D Usually if I dont have a quick 3rd gas i dont do the flashbuild. However i can do it on maps like bluestorm where you split the map in half to get a rather quick 4th and 5th base. That way you can keep up with gas in the lategame. If there is just a mineral only I'd rather do the 5fact push or some other strat and take the third when I push out. I usually never do the flashstrategy on python. 5factpush and FE 3fact is good on python... You can do the flashstrat however if the mineralonly is in a rather safe position. But you will have less goliaths and less vessels and max 1 dropship. This way your vulturecount will be higher, and try to do more vultharass to keep protoss away from getting a third gas(which will be easier since its far away). If protoss gets his gas later he will not have as many arbiters. So basically less arbiters vs less vessels. I have not had time to do the 2fact builds or the dropbuilds yet, thats all. However its weekend now and I will produce more VODs for you guys. About the splitting. I can split and then press "c" to cancel the popup without fucking up my split so there is no problem | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
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Dr.Dragoon
United States1241 Posts
On February 06 2009 19:03 Dead wrote: Well if you go on multiplayer and close comp, then just wait for message, tap continue. If you do not have opponent on map then what? Nothing. You can start split whenever you want and you will not be behind. I already addressed how you will be behind time-wise. Yeah, I know it's minor to subtract like 3 seconds from the replay, but I'm just throwing that out there so you know there is something wrong with waiting. For example, I'm practicing a TvZ build and I want my turrets up by no later than 7:20 and find that I get it at 7:23, so I'd have to remember the delay at the start and factor that in. There's also the part where you don't get blank screen->cc/nexus/hatchery, something I like to do because I don't always select my cc at like 6(?) ms iccup and 15 on bnet, and I just like to check the time I click it when I go over the replay. That part is probably only important to me though On February 07 2009 03:39 Monokeros wrote: iafter you do the split just press +a few times and you're at max speed, and since its single playerthere are no 'popups' aside the should be disabled tips popup I know, I was referring to removing the comp during countdown method. I thought you were referring to keeping splitting practice and practicing builds separate, so I brought that up. I feel that the best way to practice a build should have all the elements of a real game, minus the opponent. On February 07 2009 05:05 AnOth3rDAy wrote: About the splitting. I can split and then press "c" to cancel the popup without fucking up my split so there is no problem FlashStrat TvP on colloseum! | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
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ZeKk
Sweden320 Posts
On February 07 2009 03:59 Monokeros wrote: quick queston regarding 3rd bases when doing the flash build On maps like Python or any maps where your 3rd is a mineral only, is there any real change in how the game would play out? Also is there a specific reason why you dont do any FPVODs of 2fact builds, are they too risky and weak at higher levels of play? or have you just not gotten around to it yet Don't know if I can ever say it enough but , thanks again for your hard work :D ur third dosen't have to be the mineral. The gas in the corner is as easy as take as the mineral. btw u also have the island. | ||
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Monokeros
United States2493 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On February 07 2009 03:59 Monokeros wrote: quick queston regarding 3rd bases when doing the flash build On maps like Python or any maps where your 3rd is a mineral only, is there any real change in how the game would play out? Also is there a specific reason why you dont do any FPVODs of 2fact builds, are they too risky and weak at higher levels of play? or have you just not gotten around to it yet Don't know if I can ever say it enough but , thanks again for your hard work :D On python your third has a gas (never expand to the mineral only when doing flash build) | ||
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uppTagg
Sweden473 Posts
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Beardfish
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