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I just got beaten by an annoying Terran technique that involves lifting Barracks on top of SCVs while marines are firing from behind.
Inspired by my frustration I realized that Zerg can also use this trick, but less effectively.
I imagined a situation where the Terran is going metal and the Zerg user doesn't have zerglings or hydras to defend his ramp. In this dire situation you can use a drone and an overlord to prevent entry up the ramp, provided that you have a sunken colony nearby. The terran can't move up the ramp and the attack move command causes the vulture AI to attack the sunken colony instead.
Instructions:
Simply place the drone so that it blocks the ramp and give it the stop command.
Place the overlord on top of the drone so that the body of the overlord covers the drone completely.
Tentacles do not protect the drone! You must use the body!
Do realize that the drone is not protected from hold position fire if the Terran has a massive amount of vultures. This trick will take down a few vultures and buy you time to make a real meat wall.
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You'd need a decent amount of time knowing they are coming beforehand to do this
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Yea, you really need to know it's coming beforehand if you want to set this up correctly. I mean, you can always have an ovie flying there just in case, and all you need to do is put a drone, but it's very micro intensive and you have like 1 second to get it right if you're unawares. 
However, this seems awesome early game if you want to stop probes / scvs from coming in. Unless probes / scvs auto-attack if you attack move. Hmm, this is worth trying out.
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I like the idea, now i just have to practice it lol. It looks difficult- but hey NICE!
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On January 09 2009 04:46 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
You'd need a decent amount of time knowing they are coming beforehand to do this
This guy is a liar and a thief.
Great idea, it's very efficient.
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United States3824 Posts
Damn, you're on to us. Cool idea. Have you gotten it to work?
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Calgary25996 Posts
HOLY FUCK HOW DID I NOT THINK OF THIS?
Seriously, when I read this I was thinking close, but you are a hero. Thank you so much I'm going to use this A LOT.
I can't get over it hahahaa
THANK YOU!
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Had to log in just to comment - brilliant idea, but I am sad. I don't play zerg and always thought why zergs wouldn't do this with practice (yeah about 1 sec timing window) but now even mid-level and even low-level zerg will do this and I am SAD!
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lol neat. this would also block lings in zvz I believe, if it works in the same way to the terran one
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Application seems limited, as you should probably have lings out. In the scenario of your pictures a vulture would just slip up and behind the mineral line and completely stop mining there until you got the lings out anyways. Of course, when you do have the lings you put them on the top of the ramp to block vision.
Edit: Using the fact that the vulture wouldn't have vision and be able to shoot the drone as it moved up the ramp you should be able to block it enough for the sunk to kill a single vulture every time.
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Haha, I've had a similar though to use the overlord trick.
But my idea involved ovies over lurkers guarding a ramp vs an sk-terran preventing him from irridating the lurks therefore protecting your expo until tanks or drop ships. Or make him waste irridates on ovies then lurkers.
Although this would probably be more pratical.
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United States7166 Posts
oh wow this is a really cool trick, jeezes how come I couldnt get from the terran trick to this....
this is but 1 application.. imagine the possibilities
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Is there any known way to break this? This, and the Terran trick of holding SCVs under a floating building + having ranged units on top of the ramp? I'm really curious, as I do not know any way to break this early game (except with lurkers or mass Siege Tanks or w/e)
and LoL at all the people who never used this
I thought it was common knowledge
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On January 09 2009 06:23 minus_human wrote:
Is there any known way to break this? This, and the Terran trick of holding SCVs under a floating building + having ranged units on top of the ramp? I'm really curious, as I do not know any way to break this early game (except with lurkers or mass Siege Tanks or w/e)
and LoL at all the people who never used this
I thought it was common knowledge
Bring 3-4 workers (have vision to his minerals (zerg bit easier)) and drill through choke. Perhaps some units will be pushed away. So that your units can attack them.
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United States12607 Posts
I'm surprised pros don't use this to stop the first few vultures from entering the main...I suppose they are constantly ferrying units up and down their ramp, so would rather not block it.
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one question are you supposed to use the stop command like you said or the hold command or does it not even matter.
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On January 09 2009 06:27 Too_MuchZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2009 06:23 minus_human wrote:
Is there any known way to break this? This, and the Terran trick of holding SCVs under a floating building + having ranged units on top of the ramp? I'm really curious, as I do not know any way to break this early game (except with lurkers or mass Siege Tanks or w/e)
and LoL at all the people who never used this
I thought it was common knowledge
Bring 3-4 workers (have vision to his minerals (zerg bit easier)) and drill through choke. Perhaps some units will be pushed away. So that your units can attack them.
Ah yes, the drill, of course. Thanks for reminding me, however I was curious if there was any other way, since you don't always have the ability to see some minerals that are inside of his base
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On January 09 2009 05:02 Chill wrote:
HOLY FUCK HOW DID I NOT THINK OF THIS?
Seriously, when I read this I was thinking close, but you are a hero. Thank you so much I'm going to use this A LOT.
I can't get over it hahahaa
THANK YOU!
I thought you where going to say something about closing too  but I agree it's really good stuff
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That's actually a really nice idea but you have to be sure you get that ovie positioned exactly on top.
I've had terrible experiences of being denied entry to a (ramped) T base by 1 scv, 1 marine (behind the scv) and a floating barracks over the scv when I had my zealots coming from my proxy gate(s).
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