EPT[Q] ZvZ hydra VS muta - Page 3
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 22 2008 02:40 cyronc wrote: watch the replay of satanik vs incontrol on some space tileset map( i think its in the gg.net replay db) awesome ZvZ play!!!! (almost every Zerg Unit used!!!!) SataNik vs XiaOzI, not incontrol. :p http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/SonuvBob/pp06/PP09XiaoziSatanik.rep | ||
Harem
United States11393 Posts
On July 22 2008 11:00 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: SataNik vs XiaOzI, not incontrol. :p http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/SonuvBob/pp06/PP09XiaoziSatanik.rep I think he was talking about that rep from TSL of Incontrol vs some other person whose name I can't remember on Zodiac. The other zerg went like hydra, devo, lurk and shit. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 22 2008 12:00 Harem wrote: I think he was talking about that rep from TSL of Incontrol vs some other person whose name I can't remember on Zodiac. The other zerg went like hydra, devo, lurk and shit. That was iNcontroL vs Ptak @ TSL  http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Manifesto7/TSL_Wk2_Replays/inc_vs_ptak.rep | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
I was under the impression pure ling would totally own it. I totally outmacroed the guy and waited for cracklings. Got 3 kills and he like 130. WTF Thanks for the advice. BTW my 9 muta couldn't do anything since he made like 8 spores. I mean, the guy didn't even hotkey. I bet he missed 3 ovies also. As a protoss player I knew ZvZ was stupid. But what the hell was that? [edit] Never mind, he mineral hacked like crazy... But still... | ||
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LxRogue
United States1415 Posts
He likely is getting carapace upgrades and especially in larger numbers, lings die quite quickly to hydras. What are you doing with your gas anyway? The mutas are there as the meat shields while the zerglings do the damage. This is such an important and basic aspect of using muta/ling and i'm surprised by how many people are careless about it. You ALWAYS send the mutas before the lings: against hydras, m&m, goliaths, goons. Sending the zerglings first results in the lings all dying and the mutas fighting alone. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On July 23 2008 09:39 BlackStar wrote: Just lost vs some idiot doing random pure hydra. I don't know anything about ZvZ except seeing some progames. I was under the impression pure ling would totally own it. I totally outmacroed the guy and waited for cracklings. Got 3 kills and he like 130. Pure Zergling armies get shredded by Hydralisks; as Lxrogue says, you need the Mutalisks to take the hits. Don't forget to upgrade attack/carapace as well, attack is ideal on your Zerglings while carapace is recommended on your Mutalisks. Hydralisk users already have the evolution chamber due to their spore colonies, so they tend to have fast 1/1 upgrades; you can't let them get to 2/1 or 2/2 without upgrading yourself or you're fucked. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On July 21 2008 15:55 iakNab wrote: u got one gay name there buddy hydra completely viable, i pulled ridiculous wins with it. Opponents most likely wont be quite ready for it either. what ?! EzPzLmnSqz is an awesome name! ...right..? .................. + Show Spoiler + *selfdoubt*  | ||
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Elite]v[arine
United States264 Posts
On July 21 2008 00:51 MrRammstein wrote: Does anyone have any reps or links to VODs with high(er) level of Hydra vs Muta(ling)? WCG 2007 Highlights: Watch from 2:12 to 3:22 1-1 mass hydra FTW!!! | ||
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KaasZerg
Netherlands927 Posts
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Swarmy
Canada70 Posts
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MrRammstein
Poland339 Posts
On July 24 2008 08:51 X.xDeMoNiCx.X wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uv_KPhFLYY&feature=related WCG 2007 Highlights: Watch from 2:12 to 3:22 1-1 mass hydra FTW!!! WOW this is epic video!! GoShox if you meant this game, game itself is AMAZING, especially made like this! I can watch it all over again! (haven't watch watch rep, there is too much shit to do with patches to be able to watch it) EDIT: LOL LOOK AT POLL X) edit2: there was 99votes x)) | ||
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dcttr66
United States555 Posts
but even still, the mutalisks might have won the game already because they are great for map control. | ||
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Elite]v[arine
United States264 Posts
why thanks | ||
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Kizlyk
Ukraine84 Posts
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x362dz_notforu-vs-sudden_videogames Unfortunately you will not understand his commentary where he explains in details when this strategy is good, and why... | ||
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Empyrean
17067 Posts
On July 24 2008 09:55 KaasZerg wrote: Tsunami an oldschool player had a covincing showcase of hydra vs muta. He stopped the mutaharass with some Spore went one base 2hatch hydra I believe and had a big enough hydraball to kill the expo before the expo could pay of. He killed the mutalingarmy with hydra only. I don't know if his site still exists. He wrote his own strategy guide. The timming of the attack is critical. One geyser is enough. I think Tsunami wrote a really long analysis on Hydra/Queen against Mutaling. It was pretty convincing, but this was back in 1.08 and strategies have certainly evolved since then. He had some example replays as well, but I don't know if they're still available somewhere. EDIT: Hahaha, his guide is still up. Really nostalgic. http://www.geocities.com/brattsunami/ You can still access his strategy articles on the left hand sidebar. Haven't checked if the replays still work, though. | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
How does plauge compare to ensnare? Queens are alot more mobile and easy to use (vs mutas) than defilers but I'm still not sure. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
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Elite]v[arine
United States264 Posts
On July 29 2008 18:45 Kizlyk wrote: Notforu (top russian player) once recorded FPVOD when he used hydralisks in ZvZ vs another good player, here it is: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x362dz_notforu-vs-sudden_videogames Unfortunately you will not understand his commentary where he explains in details when this strategy is good, and why... if someone could translate this it would be very much thx. | ||
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Elite]v[arine
United States264 Posts
i was wondering what would i do if both me and my opponent decide upon opening hydras instead of mutas? how does that turn out and what should i do in response to his hydras and mine?? | ||
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