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beenizzle
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States141 Posts
May 21 2008 14:43 GMT
#1
i recently watched a mistrzzz fp vod and i saw him use a drop ship with two reavers in it and before he unloaded them he selected an enemy probe while reavers where still in drop ship and when the reavers dropped they fired at the selected probe. was wondering how he did it or unless maybe i was just seeing things the way i wanted it too...
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 21 2008 15:03 GMT
#2
do you mean he right click the probe while controlling shuttle or just left click select a probe?
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
May 21 2008 15:07 GMT
#3
he probably hotkeyed the reavers before loading them up. If you dont select the htokey before they redrop you can use it to attack the probes really fast
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GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
May 21 2008 15:12 GMT
#4
There's a delay between when the reaver drops and when it fires there scarab. When it is on the ground before firing, there is even time to manually select it and choose the target if you have decent handspeed.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
GunsofthePatriots
Profile Joined August 2007
South Africa991 Posts
May 21 2008 15:20 GMT
#5
I wouldn't send a reaver over if it wasn't hotkeyed O.O
inlagdsil
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada957 Posts
May 21 2008 15:34 GMT
#6
On May 22 2008 00:07 RaGe wrote:
he probably hotkeyed the reavers before loading them up. If you dont select the htokey before they redrop you can use it to attack the probes really fast

You mean that a reaver attacks faster when you immediately give it a target than when you let it auto-aquire its target?
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 21 2008 15:37 GMT
#7
On May 22 2008 00:20 GunsofthePatriots wrote:
I wouldn't send a reaver over if it wasn't hotkeyed O.O



You could just quickly select both shuttle and reaver (if your single unit click accuracy+speed is meh) and auto select a probe that way.


And to the above cause idk how to multi quote, it does seem like the reaver shoots faster if you manually select target, just a small bit. It's probably because you skip the time for the reaver to decide target priorities.
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
May 21 2008 15:50 GMT
#8
Are all of you misreading his post, or is it just me?

On May 21 2008 23:43 beenizzle wrote:
i recently watched a mistrzzz fp vod and i saw him use a drop ship with two reavers in it and before he unloaded them he selected an enemy probe while reavers where still in drop ship and when the reavers dropped they fired at the selected probe. was wondering how he did it or unless maybe i was just seeing things the way i wanted it too...


He's saying that he selected the reaver WHILE IT WAS IN THE SHUTTLE.

Is this possible? I think beenizzle is just seeing things
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 21 2008 15:52 GMT
#9
Hmm do you have the VOD in question?

Maybe what happened is he clicked on reaver image to drop and then clicked the probe to target before the reaver showed up out of the shuttle? :-/

A VOD would be nice to settle this :-D
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
May 21 2008 16:03 GMT
#10
I think the OP is confusing something.
bustaBust
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada469 Posts
May 21 2008 17:05 GMT
#11
maybe the shuttle was qued to unloaded and the reavers auto targeted the probe?
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
May 21 2008 19:58 GMT
#12
i remember reading from somewhere that you could target the probe with your reaver (probably via vision from obs) then load the shuttle and when you unload, it'll auto-target that probe that you previously targeted. However, I'm not sure if this really works or not. supposedly this tactic is good for taking out tanks by abusing splash dmg.
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Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
May 21 2008 21:23 GMT
#13
Thats pretty cool. Can anyone confirm this?
Pretty handy...
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 21 2008 21:34 GMT
#14
On May 22 2008 06:23 Cr4zy3y3s wrote:
Thats pretty cool. Can anyone confirm this?
Pretty handy...



Didn't work for me. I just tried it.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
May 21 2008 21:36 GMT
#15
Could you provide the FPVod in question? I know Mistrezzz actually has an account on TL.net, maybe he could help us out?

On May 22 2008 00:20 GunsofthePatriots wrote:
I wouldn't send a reaver over if it wasn't hotkeyed O.O


It's hard to put that much preparation into a drop, especially if you accidentally press the hotkey you're in a lot of trouble.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=31330&currentpage=2#23
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Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-21 22:04:50
May 21 2008 22:03 GMT
#16
On May 22 2008 06:36 thunk wrote:
Could you provide the FPVod in question? I know Mistrezzz actually has an account on TL.net, maybe he could help us out?

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2008 00:20 GunsofthePatriots wrote:
I wouldn't send a reaver over if it wasn't hotkeyed O.O


It's hard to put that much preparation into a drop, especially if you accidentally press the hotkey you're in a lot of trouble.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=31330&currentpage=2#23


lool.

look at the post under the one you linked

On September 09 2005 11:01 antrax wrote:
Now you don't lose the hotkeys if the unit is not available. Example: hotkey reaver to 2 you can press 2 as much as you want (even with the reaver in the shuttle) when the reaver is available the hoykey will still be working).

thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
May 21 2008 23:36 GMT
#17
On May 22 2008 07:03 goldenkrnboi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2008 06:36 thunk wrote:
Could you provide the FPVod in question? I know Mistrezzz actually has an account on TL.net, maybe he could help us out?

On May 22 2008 00:20 GunsofthePatriots wrote:
I wouldn't send a reaver over if it wasn't hotkeyed O.O


It's hard to put that much preparation into a drop, especially if you accidentally press the hotkey you're in a lot of trouble.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=31330&currentpage=2#23


lool.

look at the post under the one you linked

Show nested quote +
On September 09 2005 11:01 antrax wrote:
Now you don't lose the hotkeys if the unit is not available. Example: hotkey reaver to 2 you can press 2 as much as you want (even with the reaver in the shuttle) when the reaver is available the hoykey will still be working).



I don't think you meant this because the post below me refers to manually targeting reavers to make them shoot stuff faster, but:
If you selected the reavers and manually gave them a target, you would be able to see it in the FPVOD. But the OP is talking about giving reavers targets while in the shuttle, which, to my knowledge, is undoable.

For some reason, if you give lurkers a target while they're burrowing, they do shot faster. See FCUK's "return of the subtitle thread".

Give the reavers targets manually isn't noticeably faster - you'd think if anybody, Leg would have noticed and mentioned it in his thread.

I tested it; you only lose the hotkey if one of the units is outside the shuttle. IE you have 2 reavers and one of them's outside the shuttle, you click the hotkey and you've lost the hotkey for both reavers (specifically, the reaver outside the shuttle is kept in the hotkey). I guess the same is true of units that are stasised and stuff.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
kakisama
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada82 Posts
May 22 2008 18:37 GMT
#18
might be an illusion @_@ but manual targetting after you dropped the reaver (atleast to me) seems like it shoots faster. But then again that is just a waste of apm, espicially with a low apm player like me. ='[
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 22 2008 19:02 GMT
#19
On May 23 2008 03:37 kakisama wrote:
might be an illusion @_@ but manual targetting after you dropped the reaver (atleast to me) seems like it shoots faster. But then again that is just a waste of apm, espicially with a low apm player like me. ='[


keke apm boost gogo! It seems like most protoss units shoot faster if you manual target.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6638 Posts
May 22 2008 19:03 GMT
#20
On May 23 2008 03:37 kakisama wrote:
might be an illusion @_@ but manual targetting after you dropped the reaver (atleast to me) seems like it shoots faster. But then again that is just a waste of apm, espicially with a low apm player like me. ='[

Targeting with your reaver is most definitely not a waste of apm, whatever your level is. And to the OP there's no way you can target things with your reaver before it's unloaded, he was probably just telling his shuttle to go over the probe in question
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