EPTWhen I do it, even if I mineral boost one drone I can't improve beyond 1:05
Is there a chart for every map where to send the initial four drones and where to keep sending drones? Assuming you mineral boost the top right mineral doing this
How do I optimize which minerals to mine?
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iopq
United States1079 Posts
When I do it, even if I mineral boost one drone I can't improve beyond 1:05 Is there a chart for every map where to send the initial four drones and where to keep sending drones? Assuming you mineral boost the top right mineral doing this | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3480 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/qiONuOX.jpg) Did you try it that way? edit: I actually tried this like 10 times and like you i cant do better than 1:05 | ||
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TT1
Canada10036 Posts
On October 25 2022 23:55 WGT-Baal wrote: so I couldnt find for every map but Freakling made a helpful picture in the Cadenzie guide thread: Did you try it that way? edit: I actually tried this like 10 times and like you i cant do better than 1:05 but that's not the standard min positioning on modern right side bases, this is: ![[image loading]](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1033593873697603684/1033594354704592906/SCScrnShot_102322_105545.jpg) left side bases are weird because the old min patches are bad (poly/fs etc), they mine differently based on whether u spawn top left or bot left. the best left side bases are L shaped like this: ![[image loading]](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1033593873697603684/1033594400279887952/SCScrnShot_102322_105627.jpg) i haven't tested the mining on these bases yet but i would guess 346978215, not sure about 1, it could be super shit or good edit: details in my next post | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3480 Posts
but for Z yeah I m not 100% sure | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6956 Posts
On October 25 2022 20:37 iopq wrote: I watched Soma try to 9 pool a few times and he's consistently gotten it down to 1:02 and his best was 1:01.98 or something very close When I do it, even if I mineral boost one drone I can't improve beyond 1:05 Is there a chart for every map where to send the initial four drones and where to keep sending drones? Assuming you mineral boost the top right mineral doing this 1:05 is a really good timing bro . | ||
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Hawk2
United States229 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/uI3Lw21.png) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/iZzjDXv.png) See patch numbers in blue, this is how I assign a number to each patch. See patch ranking in red, the lower the number the *faster* it mines. Some patches mine at the same rate, in which the tie-break is which patch is closer to where the larva/drone spawns. All this being said, if you can do 105 pool, then that's good enough. Even if you're able to do 102 pool, you won't have 3 larva by the time your pool finishes, so it's not as useful as it appears. | ||
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TT1
Canada10036 Posts
left base L shaped mins 1:10 ovp: ^looks like on left base L shaped he starts on 1369 (3 mines from top) > 48527 right side 1 min 9 pool: (he does 1358 > 74269) bottom left side 1 min 2 secs 9 pool on the old/shitty patches: (3457, 3 mines from top > 62981) | ||
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LUCKY_NOOB
Bulgaria1543 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/vWwu7GQ.png) I haven't been gone THAT long... WTF is this! The Bat Geyser? | ||
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Anusree
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WGT-Baal
France3480 Posts
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Aiur
Sweden139 Posts
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iopq
United States1079 Posts
On October 27 2022 04:24 TT1 wrote: you can check this guys vods for Z, he has really fast pool timings, 1:10 secs for overpool (basically 1 min for 9p) and 1 min for 9p left base L shaped mins 1:10 ovp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mDIk1PdyhQ ^looks like on left base L shaped he starts on 1369 (3 mines from top) > 48527 right side 1 min 9 pool: (he does 1358 > 74269) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a2KBJkyq2Q bottom left side 1 min 2 secs 9 pool on the old/shitty patches: (3457, 3 mines from top > 62981) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC0qIq_7I0c excellent, I followed the order and I'm down to 1:04 now can someone explain all of the mineral boosting he's doing  | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3480 Posts
On November 16 2022 20:52 iopq wrote: excellent, I followed the order and I'm down to 1:04 now can someone explain all of the mineral boosting he's doing You may be able to gain a second by going SD before the game start and queueing the first drone while the screen is still dark as the hatch will be centered | ||
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iopq
United States1079 Posts
On November 17 2022 10:59 WGT-Baal wrote: You may be able to gain a second by going SD before the game start and queueing the first drone while the screen is still dark as the hatch will be centered if the drones are over the egg they will be pushed over the hatchery, that's why Zerg players usually send the drones before making the first egg! | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3480 Posts
On November 17 2022 20:26 iopq wrote: if the drones are over the egg they will be pushed over the hatchery, that's why Zerg players usually send the drones before making the first egg! I did not know that (I m P). But it does make sense. | ||
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iopq
United States1079 Posts
This is about what I was looking for, don't need to know Korean to understand | ||
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Freakling
Germany1533 Posts
On November 16 2022 20:52 iopq wrote: excellent, I followed the order and I'm down to 1:04 now can someone explain all of the mineral boosting he's doing Generally you should observe the following: - Generally, watch out for workers doing a quick turnarounds (turning around without delay and, ideally, minimal loss of speed) upon delivering their resources to the resource depot. These are the fastest mining patches, which you should prioritize. - Whenever possible, try to have workers return their cargo to the edge of the resource depot, instead of the side. On some patches this allows for the quickest turnarounds possible, with speed loss minimized as the worker is not forcefully decelerated as it bumps into resource depot. This can often be achieved by fine-tuning the mining position on the patch. - All other things being equal, straight line/parallelogram-shaped mining paths are, on average, faster than diagonal paths. So straighten out as many workers as possible, by adjusting their mining positions. - Special mention for the left/right-2-up position patches, which in most bases can only be straightened out by manually microing the worker in every cycle. | ||
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iopq
United States1079 Posts
On October 27 2022 04:24 TT1 wrote: you can check this guys vods for Z, he has really fast pool timings, 1:10 secs for overpool (basically 1 min for 9p) and 1 min for 9p The guy does multiple boosts at the same time, he does one where you send to a different mineral to then change to the target one to prevent the drone from slowing down, while also doing the return cargo boost, what a sicko When he splits, he lets the drone mine from the wrong position of the mineral, but fixes on the way back by clicking the drone away to the correct drop off point Observe | ||
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BonitiilloO
Dominican Republic627 Posts
On January 26 2024 05:09 iopq wrote: The guy does multiple boosts at the same time, he does one where you send to a different mineral to then change to the target one to prevent the drone from slowing down, while also doing the return cargo boost, what a sicko When he splits, he lets the drone mine from the wrong position of the mineral, but fixes on the way back by clicking the drone away to the correct drop off point Observe https://youtube.com/watch?v=3E0UYKQyIXU is there a video like this for Terran? | ||
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iopq
United States1079 Posts
On January 26 2024 09:04 BonitiilloO wrote: is there a video like this for Terran? I don't know, I don't play Terran but he's not even boosting in this time and I can't match this timing: HOW | ||
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