What is your opinion on making a full wall vs ling all-ins compared to just blocking with 1 zealot in top right/ bottom left spawns? Do good players ever do this?

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Harem

United States11393 Posts

February 16 2017 23:44 GMT

#25

minus)eagle used to do double forge blocks a lot back when he streamed/played and would spawn at top right or bott left to hold off random allins (like drone rushes) when he 11nex'd or to get free wins vs 5pool.

[sc1f]eonzerg

Belgium6803 Posts

February 17 2017 01:04 GMT

#26

+1 for harem,but ideally u dont want the forge to finish just prevent some all in,im always for make the oponent overextend and leaving thinking for (i can do damage) but in reality he cant,this 1 unit wall is very strong,if u smell all in just make 2 canons,atleast vs lings will be hard to die.

GeckoXp

Germany2016 Posts

February 17 2017 08:21 GMT

#27

On February 15 2017 00:56 B-royal wrote:
I'm also working on improving the liquipedia articles (Starting with ZvZ). I'm currently doing the 12 pool one but I do not feel knowledgeable enough to talk about the situation of 12 pool vs Overgas and 9/10 hatch.

If anyone also has some vods or replays, feel free to add them.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/12_Pool_(vs._Zerg)

My changes still need to be approved, so you won't see them at the moment.

I just want to highlight this post. Liquipedia Strategy wasn't updated for Zerg very much, mostly due to me not finding much Zerg players to read over articles. If you want to share, Liquipedia is a great place to start. You can easily add your clips there as well, if you need help with the code, bump me. It won't take longer than a few seconds for just linking your YouTube clips there.

Same goes for builds, if you have some, just paste them and we can add those.

outscar

2832 Posts

February 19 2017 15:32 GMT

#28

Hell, it's about damn freaking time sir! Not wanna become Jaedong but at least aiming for C+ so then I can brag in my town and become bad guy. Subbed.

About Isis: These simple minded guys should give commandment to BoxeR and Isis will be nuked to dust in less than 12 hours. GG nigga!

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HaFnium

United Kingdom1075 Posts

February 20 2017 01:27 GMT

#29

On February 20 2017 00:32 outscar wrote:
Hell, it's about damn freaking time sir! Not wanna become Jaedong but at least aiming for C+ so then I can brag in my town and become bad guy. Subbed.

About Isis: These simple minded guys should give commandment to BoxeR and Isis will be nuked to dust in less than 12 hours. GG nigga!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeKpI3kcAHs

I kept reading iris.. made me really confused. why would you want to nuke iris.... or did you mean iris also like nuking ppl....?

took me a while to get it

Ty2

United States1434 Posts

February 20 2017 14:53 GMT

#30

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B-royal

Belgium1330 Posts

February 20 2017 16:53 GMT

#31

On February 20 2017 23:53 Ty2 wrote:
I made my own video to contribute on scouting patterns in zvp:

www.youtube.com

Comment I left on the video:

"Hey ty2 some thoughts during the video.
Nice of you to make the video in the first place.
It's a pretty long video for the amount of information it contains. I realize it is due to filming it "on the go". But maybe the players that will benefit the most from this information won't dedicate 43 minutes to watching a video about it.
Also, I think it's important to not assign too much value to the possible implications of the timing of probe scouts
For example:
- What about the situation when protoss scouts with a 2nd probe when he doesn't find you on first try? I think that's pretty common (I see now that you very briefly mention it near the end).
- What about scouting after forge instead of after the first pylon?
- How far into the main does the protoss scout? Seems like your friend is going quite deep into the main, which is not necessary for the 1 o'clock and 7 o'clock positions. As soon as you are at the top of the ramp you will be able to tell if there's creep or not."

ArmadA[NaS]

United States347 Posts

February 20 2017 17:23 GMT

#32

I disagree with there being no benefit between scouting the two adjacent bases for Protoss. If you check for the scouting overlord at the 2nd natural of the counter-clockwise base (i.e. 3,6,9, or 12) you can save the 2nd probe scout. If you're zerg and you see a probe at your natural third, you know their spawning position (there might be some slight difference in timing for this scouting pattern with 1 gate FE vs FFE vs 2 gate as well).
Edit- Great video btw.

Ty2

United States1434 Posts

February 20 2017 23:38 GMT

#33

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[sc1f]eonzerg

Belgium6803 Posts

February 22 2017 01:12 GMT

#34

ty2 i added your video,thanks,

just small advice,next time try to say more with less,(not sure if it makes sense.is one spanish phrase.)

MuNi

United States72 Posts

February 22 2017 19:02 GMT

#35

Eonzerg, is it cool for people to just post more coaching tips in this thread for any race? I would like to contribute as well.

[sc1f]eonzerg

Belgium6803 Posts

February 22 2017 19:41 GMT

#36

On February 23 2017 04:02 MuNi wrote:
Eonzerg, is it cool for people to just post more coaching tips in this thread for any race? I would like to contribute as well.

bro this is about the BW world,not just the zerg,so im even looking for 2v2 guides and tutorials.

[sc1f]eonzerg

Belgium6803 Posts

February 23 2017 16:31 GMT

#37

Part 2 of the Muta micro and conclusion,i added 3 micro maps in the description of the video.

MuNi

United States72 Posts

February 24 2017 23:40 GMT

#38

Alright everyone, here is my first video and I hope it helps someone out there or that people find it interesting. Sorry in advance for the audio but my headset broke so I had to rig my earbuds into a microphone. If people find it interesting and they learn something then I will certainly post some more stuff! Thanks EonZerg for starting this thread.

Enjoy~