EPTif you see that the other team is powering for a rush then add as many cannons as u need to hold it while teching and adding gates. you must be constantly pumping probes off your 2 nex 3 if you want. you should be able to max on this map in like 10 minutes. make huge amounts of cannons, try and reaver/temp drop so u can rape their workers. also get 3 forges for ups right away. Basically you get so much money in this map that u can get everything at once. but dont get carriers. goons/zeal/dts/temp/arbs along with reaver drops. make sure u make a ridiculous amount of cannons. when your not making units your making cannons. the faster u can max the map the less units your opponents will have. cannon rushes can be good too since 99.9% of the players are noobs. If you cant kill them with just your units of protoss then mc your ally zerg first and if not then settle for terran. you want to stay away from air in this map because A it builds too slow and B it gets pwned too ez by mass storms or golies etc. A nice 36 guardian attack can tear shit up tho. Ah this map was funny playing stoned or drunk after a night of partying but still pwning it up.
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AlexanderTheGreat
Canada521 Posts
if you see that the other team is powering for a rush then add as many cannons as u need to hold it while teching and adding gates. you must be constantly pumping probes off your 2 nex 3 if you want. you should be able to max on this map in like 10 minutes. make huge amounts of cannons, try and reaver/temp drop so u can rape their workers. also get 3 forges for ups right away. Basically you get so much money in this map that u can get everything at once. but dont get carriers. goons/zeal/dts/temp/arbs along with reaver drops. make sure u make a ridiculous amount of cannons. when your not making units your making cannons. the faster u can max the map the less units your opponents will have. cannon rushes can be good too since 99.9% of the players are noobs. If you cant kill them with just your units of protoss then mc your ally zerg first and if not then settle for terran. you want to stay away from air in this map because A it builds too slow and B it gets pwned too ez by mass storms or golies etc. A nice 36 guardian attack can tear shit up tho. Ah this map was funny playing stoned or drunk after a night of partying but still pwning it up. | ||
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davidgurt
United States1355 Posts
davidgurt fmp rep pack: click here. Watching some of my old replays really made me sad. You can watch them to get a basic idea of how fastest is played, but please don't criticize how I play in any of those games. My APM was only around 160 most of the time; my builds were inconsistent and poorly executed; and this was before I really learned how to play (thanks to a month or so of playing low  ). In addition, the replays range from more than a year ago to approximately last summer. Needless to say, I've improved a lot since.  Also, for anyone who wants to know just how "good" I claim I am, I can elaborate on that. I personally believe that I was one of the top ten players on the West bnet server for at least a month, after I began playing low and developed a real sense for the game. My APM jumped from 160 to 250, and I definitely learned a lot in terms of overall gameplay. I competed in vgtour for only one season, beating the #2 ranked 1;1 player in a bo3, but did not play too actively in it. I also participated in numerous clan battles and met a ridiculously large number of people who played fastest, many of which I could recall if I happened to play them in a later game. The maps I've played on, beginning 8-9 years ago, were bgh -> low -> zero clutter -> fastest -> low, in that order. I began playing zero clutter (aka zc) in channel clash and then continued by playing fastest in channel bravo, where I met powerhouse (apparently he played in WCG at the time as well), cloudxx2, z-unit, hornyflip, crimson)s(hadow, sod-warrior, guyabovemesucks, crazy-vegeto, vincent_guapo, and many more. | ||
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
On January 09 2007 00:34 Gandalf wrote: Nexus first to pump probes of course. In team games you'll need to forge and cannon up, but in 1on1 you might be able to skip it if your opponent is going nexus first too. And I see this thread closing in 5..4..3..2..1.. 0.. BOOM GG  | ||
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EscPlan9
United States2777 Posts
BTW, I'm still quite a noob. I'm not going to be judging you. My highest average APM was 122, and that was with Terran too. | ||
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United States2777 Posts
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Monoxide
Canada1190 Posts
Protoss: Mass Dragoons 3-3-3 upgraded of course with a couple of temps (like gg everytime) if hes being a bitch and building cannons everywhere, use reavers. Zerg: Mass Hydras or Guards and Devour. (3-3 Upgrade) (they see it and call GG) Terran: Seige tank push with wraiths or battlecruisers (gg) ya... if u come up with anything pm me | ||
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davidgurt
United States1355 Posts
On January 09 2007 21:23 Monoxide wrote: lol heres how i see it: Protoss: Mass Dragoons 3-3-3 upgraded of course with a couple of temps (like gg everytime) if hes being a bitch and building cannons everywhere, use reavers. Zerg: Mass Hydras or Guards and Devour. (3-3 Upgrade) (they see it and call GG) Terran: Seige tank push with wraiths or battlecruisers (gg) ya... if u come up with anything pm me It's a little bit more work than just that. | ||
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AlexanderTheGreat
Canada521 Posts
On January 09 2007 21:23 Monoxide wrote: lol heres how i see it: Protoss: Mass Dragoons 3-3-3 upgraded of course with a couple of temps (like gg everytime) if hes being a bitch and building cannons everywhere, use reavers. Zerg: Mass Hydras or Guards and Devour. (3-3 Upgrade) (they see it and call GG) Terran: Seige tank push with wraiths or battlecruisers (gg) ya... if u come up with anything pm me this may work vs the average first day noob but vs anyone with low-decent skill/understaning of the game let alone the map will rape all of these unit combos every time. | ||
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EscPlan9
United States2777 Posts
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Arcanis_Li
United States37 Posts
On January 09 2007 21:39 EscPlan9 wrote: What counters mass siege tanks with air support and detection? I'm a noob so maybe thats why the answer isn't clear to me. Try mass air. If you are fast enough, you can also include spells | ||
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EscPlan9
United States2777 Posts
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StRyKeR
United States1756 Posts
On January 09 2007 22:05 EscPlan9 wrote: Say you're protoss. He has many siege tanks, some detection (turrets, comsats, sci vessels, whatever), and wraiths. What do you do? Scouts/Carriers/Corsairs? He can comsat (or otherwise detect your observers), take out your observers, cloak his wraiths, and kill any of your air units easily. How are you going to get templars near his siege tanks when his air support will prevent drops and you obviously can't walk into the tanks? I'm thinking you'd have to do something like hallucinate arbiters (a LOT of hallucinations), send them in, then send in some real arbiters, recall a massive army of zlots/goons/archons and hope for the best. If he has that many siege tanks, he can only have so many air units. Spend all your money on carriers and obs. | ||
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azndsh
United States4447 Posts
On January 09 2007 22:05 EscPlan9 wrote: Say you're protoss. He has many siege tanks, some detection (turrets, comsats, sci vessels, whatever), and wraiths. What do you do? Scouts/Carriers/Corsairs? He can comsat (or otherwise detect your observers), take out your observers, cloak his wraiths, and kill any of your air units easily. How are you going to get templars near his siege tanks when his air support will prevent drops and you obviously can't walk into the tanks? I'm thinking you'd have to do something like hallucinate arbiters (a LOT of hallucinations), send them in, then send in some real arbiters, recall a massive army of zlots/goons/archons and hope for the best. I assure you, 99.9% of fastest players will not think of comsat + obs sniping, much less try to attempt it. I should think if he's at a choke, then stasis/recall + sair/disruption web will probably work. Otherwise continuous speedlots + storm from 36+ gates should be able to break his tank line if he's not at a choke | ||
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EscPlan9
United States2777 Posts
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BalloonFight
United States2007 Posts
On January 09 2007 20:55 davidgurt wrote: I began playing zero clutter (aka zc) in channel clash and then continued by playing fastest in channel bravo, where I met powerhouse (apparently he played in WCG at the time as well), cloudxx2, z-unit, hornyflip, crimson)s(hadow, sod-warrior, guyabovemesucks, crazy-vegeto, vincent_guapo, and many more. Haha, I used to hang out in bravo a long time ago as well. What was your account name? I bet I'd recognize you . | ||
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RebelHeart
New Zealand722 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
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Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
On January 09 2007 21:23 Monoxide wrote: lol heres how i see it: Protoss: Mass Dragoons 3-3-3 upgraded of course with a couple of temps (like gg everytime) if hes being a bitch and building cannons everywhere, use reavers. Zerg: Mass Hydras or Guards and Devour. (3-3 Upgrade) (they see it and call GG) Terran: Seige tank push with wraiths or battlecruisers (gg) ya... if u come up with anything pm me that's the way to play fastest! | ||
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EscPlan9
United States2777 Posts
In one of those PvP replays you guys were doing mass goon/reav/temp battle for 20 minutes straight. I had to turn off my sound and speed up to 16x to get through that. I just wanted to see how it'd end. | ||
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Equinox_kr
United States7395 Posts
ADMIN GODS, PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD T_T | ||
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