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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 17 2006 06:52 GMT
#21
and yea no one gets 7 mutalisks, 7 is the minimum cuz 7 kills a scv in one hit. If you look at his fpvods vs oov on rh3, he doesn't micro at all. When oov came he just attacked him with pure lurkers -_-. oov I don't know why, thought a good counter would be to send 3 firebats to the 3rd expo to kill it, they were able waste about half of the hatchery's blood before all dying to mutas.
Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-17 06:57:46
November 17 2006 06:54 GMT
#22
On November 17 2006 15:40 Drowsy wrote:
Luhh the fuck you talkin about? All zergs build 9 and use them for stalling rather than killing. July sometimes goes for 10 or 11. The other vital function of mutas is to prevent drops(or to go defend against one so you don't have to pull your entire lurkling force back), very important to keep at least 6 of 9 mutalisks up for the later stages of the game.


I read my post and it's kind of messy. The point was on maps which allowed it, he went double exp instead of single exp after 9 mutas and had enough money. Thus it's superfucking critical for him to keep the terran in the base.

I've never seen July do that. July likes to fly around and kill things and adds more units earlier. He doesn't use the necessary minimum as efficiently, and instead wants to kill more terran stuff. Savior gameplan is to get swarm from 4 gas, July's gameplan often seems to be a hope of killing the terran army still on lairtech, since he doesn't have the same amount of gas from an overall more starved game.

About the 7 vs 9. yeah my bad. Confused myself there.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 17 2006 06:59 GMT
#23
biggest difference between july and savior is july uses more zerglings and less lurkers so he doesn't need as much gas. Hive timing is still the same in most cases. Hiving is not a style, it's a necessity in zvt to counter a lot of things.
q_qq
Profile Joined October 2006
10 Posts
November 17 2006 08:43 GMT
#24
very nice guide :}
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kdog3682
Profile Joined September 2004
United States247 Posts
November 17 2006 08:59 GMT
#25
the replay link doesn't work
Yes, shes mine regardless of how gosu my zvt is
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 17 2006 09:02 GMT
#26
yes it does
[Blitz]
Profile Joined November 2006
Australia7 Posts
November 17 2006 10:04 GMT
#27
this is awesome, since i am terran, i will know how to defend vs it =D
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gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
November 17 2006 12:03 GMT
#28
On November 17 2006 15:26 seedcapital wrote:
What's the proper Terran response if he expects Zerg to do this?


Run like a mother fucker.
TaDa1.
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
655 Posts
November 17 2006 12:51 GMT
#29
this guide is good, but it helps terran player more than zerg player imo. most decent zvt ers either have a style or have learned savior zvt it's the standard, the strat jesus zerg created to balance zvt
sos bomber stork savior fan ^ http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5160596/1/WXZ/achievements/category/4377898
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
November 17 2006 13:57 GMT
#30
Awesome. I love seeing well written Zerg strategy threads. If I learn well and research all your ways, I might one day be able to win a PvZ.

Nice thread.
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PhoEnixOfFiRe
Profile Joined November 2006
Sweden21 Posts
November 17 2006 17:13 GMT
#31
Imo gaurdians are a very important part of this build. If the terran were tank heavy they do a great job pushing him back into his natural. And as most of us know, swarm in his natural is as close as u can get to a gg.
The greatest lesson in life is to know that even a fool can be right
Pistasj
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Norway272 Posts
November 17 2006 20:25 GMT
#32
Haha I have been copying this build a long time also. First time I noticed it, was savior using this build on r-point. It was like magic which just shut down everything the terran was doing.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 17 2006 21:52 GMT
#33
On November 18 2006 05:25 Pistasj wrote:
Haha I have been copying this build a long time also. First time I noticed it, was savior using this build on r-point. It was like magic which just shut down everything the terran was doing.


yea first time i saw this was savior vs nada on luna for MSL something ...totally owned nada with hydralurk + swarm =. =

i was like SHIT who the hell is this zerg that just came from nowhere and raped nada
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Myxomatosis
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2392 Posts
November 17 2006 22:48 GMT
#34
On November 17 2006 11:31 zulu_nation8 wrote:
The best foreign macro timing, two factory terran is Daze.

Finally, someone agrees with me.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
November 23 2006 00:47 GMT
#35
strelok's seems to be good timing
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Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
November 23 2006 00:50 GMT
#36
ye very nice.. thx a bundle.
Maestro[5thF]
Profile Joined June 2006
Romania155 Posts
November 23 2006 02:01 GMT
#37
lol c'mon savior is my favorit player but he did not invent 3 hach mutas
4 the real master sAviOr
Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
November 23 2006 02:19 GMT
#38
Savior is claiming every zerg build, we running out, now.
Soon enough if you say 'Savior style', it might even be refering to some Terran strategy o.O
http://www.kongregate.com/?referrer=Sagess
Maestro[5thF]
Profile Joined June 2006
Romania155 Posts
November 23 2006 02:35 GMT
#39
yeah and the topic about zvp 'saviors mass turtele style' wtf ? is he the only one that makes sunkens in zvp
4 the real master sAviOr
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 23 2006 02:42 GMT
#40
I know savior did not invent 3 hatch muta. He modified it with little changes to counter terran fast expo. The replay you guys all have of nada vs savior on luna was a completely different build. People used to 3 hatch muta and get lurkers sooner or later and expo later or 4th hatch in base, etc, etc and not pushing the limits of the build. Savior modified it so it's a perfect now. The zvp savior thread has nothing to do with this, everyone knows he didn't invent zerg turtling. Savior is the first zerg to place so much emphasis on gas, more so than july/yellow/chojja, anyone that came before him.
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