• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:17
CEST 04:17
KST 11:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash8[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy13ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research7Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
Behind the scenes footage of ASL21 Group E BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Build Order Practice Maps Pros React To: SoulKey vs Ample
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group F Azhi's Colosseum - Foreign KCM [ASL21] Ro24 Group E [ASL21] Ro24 Group D
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9091 users

! [G] Savior's 3 Hatch Muta Build - Page 3

Forum Index > Brood War Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 23 2006 02:43 GMT
#41
If you still think this build has been done for ages and ages, name another zerg that has been doing it.
Bond(i2)
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada926 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-23 13:36:10
November 23 2006 13:35 GMT
#42
uhh 3 hat muta has been done for so long. Zergman uses it to. Also u should make the 3rd hat at 13/14 dont make lings yet cuz the faster u get ur 3 hat up the more drones ull have. Also try to place ur 3rd hat in a weird place away from your mainhat(but still in ur main base) so that you can hide your tech from scan. also, I recommend making 3 drones and getting a creep instead of 6 lings because again, u get more drones. Another note is while muta harrassing u should upgrade armor along with lurkers, thats wut savior did vs sea on tau cross.
roses are red violets are blue, Im schitzophrenic and so am i
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-24 01:01:17
November 24 2006 00:59 GMT
#43
3 hatch muta has been done for very very very long actually, I've seen reps of nal_gundal do it, zergman, paul, this was very long time ago. Additionally, savior's 3 hatch muta hasn't really been all that effective in the old old reps I've seen especially because the overlord w/ muta trick wasn't used back then. I think its just his double expo and his drone timing and his micro and unit choice that owned. It's just that 2 hatch was far more popular on maps where 3 hatch isn't necessary. for example, i had a ton of nal_gundal reps on LT, and he did 3 hatch every time in 12 o clock because it was necessary and he was one that made like 7 sunkens lol or more.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
November 24 2006 02:07 GMT
#44
haha I can't get over this sentence:


I do 16 and so does midian so that's why you should probably do 16.


Lol? Don't give us an explanation, just "I do this; that's why you should do it."

Otherwise, it was a good and accurate guide. I disagree with the Zergling Speed timing and with the amount of Zerglings that were made before Mutalisks; Keeping in mind however different styles have different builds.
Moderator
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
November 24 2006 03:54 GMT
#45
This is common knowledge but well written. ZvT has always been about containing the Terran until you get ultras and/or defilers and/or guards.
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
November 24 2006 05:11 GMT
#46
On November 23 2006 11:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
If you still think this build has been done for ages and ages, name another zerg that has been doing it.


Myself.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 24 2006 06:09 GMT
#47
On November 24 2006 14:11 Cloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2006 11:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
If you still think this build has been done for ages and ages, name another zerg that has been doing it.


Myself.


yea but not at the same timing, look at your games from 2-3 months ago, you get gas later, etc.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 24 2006 06:11 GMT
#48
On November 24 2006 11:07 Chill wrote:
haha I can't get over this sentence:

Show nested quote +

I do 16 and so does midian so that's why you should probably do 16.


Lol? Don't give us an explanation, just "I do this; that's why you should do it."

Otherwise, it was a good and accurate guide. I disagree with the Zergling Speed timing and with the amount of Zerglings that were made before Mutalisks; Keeping in mind however different styles have different builds.


16 is the best because it allows the least amount of larvas be idle before they're used. 17 is eh and 18 is too late although I think you do get more minerals or something because i've seen nal_keke do it in replays. About the zergling speed, if you get it later than you won't have it when terran comes out after fast expo. If you get it at 100 gas after lair you won't be cutting any drones as you should be able to use all your larvas unless you were forced to make extra sunkens earlier than usual for some reason.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-24 06:27:25
November 24 2006 06:24 GMT
#49
On November 24 2006 15:09 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2006 14:11 Cloud wrote:
On November 23 2006 11:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
If you still think this build has been done for ages and ages, name another zerg that has been doing it.


Myself.


yea but not at the same timing, look at your games from 2-3 months ago, you get gas later, etc.



Ive always gotten gas at 15/18

But like whatever, what i remember is that time ago, like a year or more, i got the 3 hatch build from yellow, but i was pretty new back then so i couldnt really work out that build, so i kinda modified it a bit, and thats the way i have been doing it since then.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 24 2006 07:06 GMT
#50
ok then what im saying is, savior's version is his own because no one did it exactly the way he does it. With the hive and everything else
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 24 2006 07:07 GMT
#51
just let me have my moment cloud
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
PiGosaur Cup #66
CranKy Ducklings99
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft312
NeuroSwarm 130
ViBE113
SpeCial 96
RuFF_SC2 95
PattyMac 5
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 6984
Artosis 639
Sharp 124
ggaemo 45
NaDa 21
scan(afreeca) 6
Noble 1
Dota 2
monkeys_forever480
League of Legends
JimRising 603
Counter-Strike
taco 715
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0568
Other Games
summit1g9885
tarik_tv4610
PiGStarcraft251
Maynarde82
CosmosSc2 18
ZombieGrub10
Moletrap7
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1105
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 64
• EnkiAlexander 49
• davetesta21
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP3
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4811
• Stunt176
Other Games
• Scarra1050
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
7h 44m
OSC
21h 44m
RSL Revival
1d 7h
TriGGeR vs Cure
ByuN vs Rogue
Replay Cast
1d 21h
RSL Revival
2 days
Maru vs MaxPax
BSL
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-31
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W1
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.