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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 23 2006 02:43 GMT
#41
If you still think this build has been done for ages and ages, name another zerg that has been doing it.
Bond(i2)
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada926 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-23 13:36:10
November 23 2006 13:35 GMT
#42
uhh 3 hat muta has been done for so long. Zergman uses it to. Also u should make the 3rd hat at 13/14 dont make lings yet cuz the faster u get ur 3 hat up the more drones ull have. Also try to place ur 3rd hat in a weird place away from your mainhat(but still in ur main base) so that you can hide your tech from scan. also, I recommend making 3 drones and getting a creep instead of 6 lings because again, u get more drones. Another note is while muta harrassing u should upgrade armor along with lurkers, thats wut savior did vs sea on tau cross.
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tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-24 01:01:17
November 24 2006 00:59 GMT
#43
3 hatch muta has been done for very very very long actually, I've seen reps of nal_gundal do it, zergman, paul, this was very long time ago. Additionally, savior's 3 hatch muta hasn't really been all that effective in the old old reps I've seen especially because the overlord w/ muta trick wasn't used back then. I think its just his double expo and his drone timing and his micro and unit choice that owned. It's just that 2 hatch was far more popular on maps where 3 hatch isn't necessary. for example, i had a ton of nal_gundal reps on LT, and he did 3 hatch every time in 12 o clock because it was necessary and he was one that made like 7 sunkens lol or more.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
November 24 2006 02:07 GMT
#44
haha I can't get over this sentence:


I do 16 and so does midian so that's why you should probably do 16.


Lol? Don't give us an explanation, just "I do this; that's why you should do it."

Otherwise, it was a good and accurate guide. I disagree with the Zergling Speed timing and with the amount of Zerglings that were made before Mutalisks; Keeping in mind however different styles have different builds.
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Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
November 24 2006 03:54 GMT
#45
This is common knowledge but well written. ZvT has always been about containing the Terran until you get ultras and/or defilers and/or guards.
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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
November 24 2006 05:11 GMT
#46
On November 23 2006 11:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
If you still think this build has been done for ages and ages, name another zerg that has been doing it.


Myself.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 24 2006 06:09 GMT
#47
On November 24 2006 14:11 Cloud wrote:
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On November 23 2006 11:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
If you still think this build has been done for ages and ages, name another zerg that has been doing it.


Myself.


yea but not at the same timing, look at your games from 2-3 months ago, you get gas later, etc.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 24 2006 06:11 GMT
#48
On November 24 2006 11:07 Chill wrote:
haha I can't get over this sentence:

Show nested quote +

I do 16 and so does midian so that's why you should probably do 16.


Lol? Don't give us an explanation, just "I do this; that's why you should do it."

Otherwise, it was a good and accurate guide. I disagree with the Zergling Speed timing and with the amount of Zerglings that were made before Mutalisks; Keeping in mind however different styles have different builds.


16 is the best because it allows the least amount of larvas be idle before they're used. 17 is eh and 18 is too late although I think you do get more minerals or something because i've seen nal_keke do it in replays. About the zergling speed, if you get it later than you won't have it when terran comes out after fast expo. If you get it at 100 gas after lair you won't be cutting any drones as you should be able to use all your larvas unless you were forced to make extra sunkens earlier than usual for some reason.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-24 06:27:25
November 24 2006 06:24 GMT
#49
On November 24 2006 15:09 zulu_nation8 wrote:
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On November 24 2006 14:11 Cloud wrote:
On November 23 2006 11:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
If you still think this build has been done for ages and ages, name another zerg that has been doing it.


Myself.


yea but not at the same timing, look at your games from 2-3 months ago, you get gas later, etc.



Ive always gotten gas at 15/18

But like whatever, what i remember is that time ago, like a year or more, i got the 3 hatch build from yellow, but i was pretty new back then so i couldnt really work out that build, so i kinda modified it a bit, and thats the way i have been doing it since then.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 24 2006 07:06 GMT
#50
ok then what im saying is, savior's version is his own because no one did it exactly the way he does it. With the hive and everything else
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 24 2006 07:07 GMT
#51
just let me have my moment cloud
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