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lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
September 18 2006 02:15 GMT
#21
On September 18 2006 10:56 jkillashark wrote:
I thought NaDa lost against GoRush in that game?


Yes, he lost...
I'll call Nada.
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
September 18 2006 04:19 GMT
#22
in some cases it's definately worth it, like when the zerg just is about to perform a big attack.
An emp will take away the swarms in the attack, and chances are all zerg units will just die-.-

Irradiated defilers still cast swarms
Enter a Uh
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
September 18 2006 04:22 GMT
#23
also i never see people use emp against carriers.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-18 04:37:26
September 18 2006 04:36 GMT
#24
This seems like a perfect place to mention it, --'' why not tanks with 3 attack upps zvt? Doesn't it hit burrowed units(under swarm of course) with the third attack upgrade?
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
September 18 2006 04:48 GMT
#25
its good in the middle of an attack because in the time it takes him to consume enough to get a swarm up alot of shit can die. otherwise irad is far better.
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tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
September 18 2006 05:26 GMT
#26
On September 18 2006 13:36 Drowsy wrote:
This seems like a perfect place to mention it, --'' why not tanks with 3 attack upps zvt? Doesn't it hit burrowed units(under swarm of course) with the third attack upgrade?


unless this was sarcasm i don't see any reason for it to.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
September 18 2006 05:45 GMT
#27
looks more like honest ignorance than sarcasm.
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ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
September 18 2006 05:46 GMT
#28
Use it.

It's not gunna hurt u lol..
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0z
Profile Joined August 2006
Luxembourg877 Posts
September 18 2006 06:31 GMT
#29
I try to
On September 18 2006 14:46 YoiChiBow wrote:
Use it

sometimes.
Still I rarely see it done by famous players, who instead, let themselves being pushed around by dark swarm.
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
September 18 2006 07:30 GMT
#30
I'm not sure if this is true, but the few times I've seriously tried to employ EMP.. it seemed like the vessel had to get way way way too close to the target area. And it's easy to miss.

Does EMP effect burrowed units?
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Alborz
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Canada1551 Posts
September 18 2006 08:33 GMT
#31
On September 18 2006 05:25 Gandalf wrote:
The emp'd defiler can always consume to replenish energy.

With irradiate, the defiler is gone for good.

I think irradiate is better.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
September 18 2006 09:08 GMT
#32
irrad only cost 75 mana xD and does lasting dmg
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OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
September 18 2006 09:24 GMT
#33
ya nada lost. it was that pimp game on luna (nada @ 7, gorush @ 11) and nada does the EMP thing + medic wall verses like 14 ultra + lings + defilers...
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
September 18 2006 10:28 GMT
#34
well, emp wont kill the defiler :\
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lazymej
Profile Joined February 2006
Canada269 Posts
September 18 2006 10:35 GMT
#35
Where can I get the NaDa GoRush game plz?
^_~
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
September 18 2006 11:06 GMT
#36
On September 18 2006 19:28 Night[Mare] wrote:
well, emp wont kill the defiler :\


Yes, but it might kill many of the zergs other units, who no longer have a swarm.

Who cares about one lonely defiler if you have the chance to take out his entire force?
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ahk-gosu
Profile Joined July 2004
Korea (South)2099 Posts
September 18 2006 11:26 GMT
#37
i think the only rela use for it is when the defilers are at your base and dark swarms there could result in buildings being destroyed.

if the defilers are far away enough from your base, you can irradiate and just run your army away.
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skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
September 18 2006 15:06 GMT
#38
I think EMP is awesome and I need to start using it heaps. Firstly the E key is far closer to the shift key, so cloning emping is very easy to do unlike cloning irradiate which requires better accuracy with the keyboard.

You could use it in situations like if his units are sitting around in the middle, you scan the defilers then emp and at the same time you get your armys to start moving forward to attack. He might not notice your vessel at all and when he notices "Units under attack" sound or whatever he'll be confused about the 0 energy of his defilers. You can retreat if he has consumed enough, but in the confusion of it all you can irradiate his defilers.
Aurious
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1772 Posts
September 18 2006 15:29 GMT
#39
actually you can't say the "E" key is that much closer.just use one finger and press "I" and the other press shift on other side.
albobgim
Profile Joined August 2006
64 Posts
September 18 2006 15:29 GMT
#40
an irradiated defiler can still do swarm. watch the pros and they make use of the dying defiler. consume takes at least two or three seconds. so in some cases when fractions of seconds matter, emp is preferred. but yeah... unless your pro, save the emp for toss.
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