EPT[G] ZvP BroodWar Guide - Page 3
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ThatGuyDoMo
Australia516 Posts
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Gatzu89
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idegelchik
Russian Federation382 Posts
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plast1c
Germany99 Posts
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On July 08 2013 03:10 duplex__ wrote: now do a similar guide with protoss plz It took me around 20 hours to compile/write this guide over the course of three weeks, and I still don't consider it "finished". Don't get me wrong, I enjoy writing, and I love StarCraft, so this was very fun to write, albeit tedious, so while I would like to write another guide like this for another match-up, I need to use my spare time for other things at the moment. | ||
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KuKri
Germany168 Posts
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Roman_K
Russian Federation36 Posts
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Mutaller
United States1051 Posts
On July 08 2013 05:35 ninazerg wrote: It took me around 20 hours to compile/write this guide over the course of three weeks, and I still don't consider it "finished". Don't get me wrong, I enjoy writing, and I love StarCraft, so this was very fun to write, albeit tedious, so while I would like to write another guide like this for another match-up, I need to use my spare time for other things at the moment. do a ZvZ guide it would be rather simple. Wait hive zvz is probably the most complex thing in the game nvm. | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On July 23 2013 07:04 reps)squishy wrote: do a ZvZ guide it would be rather simple. Wait hive zvz is probably the most complex thing in the game nvm. Actually, to be quite honest, ZvP is one of the more "figured out" match-ups, and margin for error is very low for the Protoss, who can quickly slide into a lost game, whereas Zerg can recover from a big hit. I'm speaking very generally, of course, because the only real factor at hand are the people behind the computers. ZvZ is actually incredibly complicated and would require a guide just as long as this one, if not longer. | ||
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
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Mutaller
United States1051 Posts
On July 24 2013 11:11 dRaW wrote: ZvT guide, do it | ||
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shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On July 23 2013 07:04 reps)squishy wrote: do a ZvZ guide it would be rather simple. Wait hive zvz is probably the most complex thing in the game nvm. Here's a Hive Tech ZvZ guide: Fuck it, do anything you want since it will probably work at that point | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11580 Posts
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
On August 04 2013 15:14 Dazed_Spy wrote: Question: on the 6 hatch lurker bit it tells me to add a sunken/spore to my main, but where am I suppose to be positioning these buildings in my main, and how relative to one another? You place them at your naturals, not main. Given that you have lurkers, the spore colony is to shoot observers (and sairs plus detect DT, but those are a lesser problem). So place the spore colony forward a little where it's able to be extremely annoying for Protoss observers, and try place your lurkers such that they protect the spore and it protects them. Sunken behind your wall. | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On August 04 2013 15:18 Birdie wrote: See, thats both obvious and what I thought I'd read when I opened the 6 hatch spoilers, but instead it said this "Hive starts - 1 sunken and 1 spore colony in your main base", my main base is not my mains natural, but my main itself. Ergo error.You place them at your naturals, not main. Given that you have lurkers, the spore colony is to shoot observers (and sairs plus detect DT, but those are a lesser problem). So place the spore colony forward a little where it's able to be extremely annoying for Protoss observers, and try place your lurkers such that they protect the spore and it protects them. Sunken behind your wall. | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On August 04 2013 16:06 Dazed_Spy wrote: See, thats both obvious and what I thought I'd read when I opened the 6 hatch spoilers, but instead it said this "Hive starts - 1 sunken and 1 spore colony in your main base", my main base is not my mains natural, but my main itself. Ergo error. It's not a mistake... any time the Protoss goes heavy corsairs early, there is a threat of drops, and the sunken colony and spore colony should placed close to the mineral line. I usually put one above the hive, and one directly below it. It gives you some static detection against dark templar and something to shoot them with. Of course, if it's a 4 DT drop, the spore colony is going to die pretty fast, but usually most people don't drop 4, but rather 1-2 dark templar + 2 zealots or 2 high templar, especially if you go lurker + spore at your front. Obviously, you still will want a spore colony at each natural. If you ask "Hey, why even bother making a spore and sunken in my main?" the answer is that you will have a quite large economy at that time, so it will not be a major investment, and could save your drones from death. But again, you can alter any build order to suit your personal style, so if you feel like you can handle drops well without ever needing any static defence, then by all means, omit it from your build. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On July 24 2013 11:11 dRaW wrote: ZvT guide, do it This please, my ZvT is awful until I get defilers out T_T (after which it's still awful but slightly less so) Great guide though, much appreciated <3 | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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