EPThow would you recover from manner pylon?
| Forum Index > Brood War Strategy |
|
Jon166
Vietnam121 Posts
| ||
|
JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
| ||
|
NeverTheEndlessWiz
Singapore827 Posts
On August 07 2004 08:11 JeeJee wrote: Sure there is, keep playing the game, he'll have a small eco advantage for now, but your ramp should make up for your slightly lower numbes of zeals or goons so wat if u are playing a map with no ramp? lol i'm serious about that question =P | ||
|
Jim
Sweden1965 Posts
| ||
|
SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
| ||
|
Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
| ||
|
JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
it's all luck at that point, depends when he attacks, the worst possible time for you is when your reaver is half-bulding and he attacks because then you will have considerably less goons/zealots, and you will lose | ||
|
MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
| ||
|
GoSexierPerli
United States85 Posts
| ||
|
Beast_Bg
Bulgaria1623 Posts
By the way is it so good ?If he traps 2-3 probes and cancels the pylon then you've lost like 2-3x8 minerals and he lost 25.If he doesn't cancel it it has taken some damage already from the trapped probes and you attack it with 4-5 more and shouldn't lose more than 12x8=96 minerals.It's the panic it creates that is worse I think. Combined with a zeal attacking your mineral line it's too bad of course... | ||
|
tuig
Netherlands46 Posts
| ||
|
GeNoCiDe
United States22 Posts
| ||
|
STIMEY d okgm fish
Canada6140 Posts
| ||
|
RuGbUg
United States2347 Posts
On August 07 2004 09:38 MiniRoman wrote: or, he can just cancel the minerals and thus lose far less then you spent attacking itIt doesn't set you back that far behind. IF probes are trapped inside, use them to just kill it asap, you wont lose that much minerals. Remember, he is losing 100 by doing that. | ||
|
koehli
Germany350 Posts
On August 07 2004 16:03 RuGbUg wrote: or, he can just cancel the minerals and thus lose far less then you spent attacking it Rugbug is right, only let the pylon warp when there's at least 2 probes trapped. As the one being mannerpyloned I'd do a probe drill to make sure to not have more then one trapped. You should do some probe harvest micro to not harvest the long way around and wait till trapped probe and first zealot kill the pylon. Almost cost efficient for the defender. What I really fear is not the fully warped pylon, but the last second cancellation, it's plain and simple an advantage without regret for the party doing the mannerpylon. | ||
|
dashboard
United Kingdom40 Posts
| ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28876 Posts
the problem is that the pylon isn't really a waste of 100 minerals. because you get supply from it until it's dead thus the mannerpyloner can keep producing zealots at a normal rate while you're losing money from the mannerpylon, and you can't really use zealots to kill it because then you're giving him free entrance to your base, and if you kill it with probes then you've spent more money on denying the pylon than he spent building it. no matter what you are at a disadvantage so the only solution is don't play maps where mannerpylon is possible and if someone mannerpylons you, don't bother playing him again! :-) | ||
|
MaGnIfIcA
Norway2312 Posts
 | ||
|
JoeUser
United States684 Posts
On August 09 2004 09:23 Liquid`Drone wrote: meh the problem is that the pylon isn't really a waste of 100 minerals. because you get supply from it until it's dead thus the mannerpyloner can keep producing zealots at a normal rate while you're losing money from the mannerpylon, and you can't really use zealots to kill it because then you're giving him free entrance to your base, and if you kill it with probes then you've spent more money on denying the pylon than he spent building it. no matter what you are at a disadvantage so the only solution is don't play maps where mannerpylon is possible and if someone mannerpylons you, don't bother playing him again! :-) Yea, I think this guy is right. But I think it's only a slight disadvantage. Once you have 3 zeals just send one to kill while the others hold position at ramp. Or, put a probe outside of his base, and send all the zeals you make to kill the manner pylon, but keep an eye on your probe, and if he sends his zeals, immediately send your zeals to your choke, and use probes to finish it off. The 2nd way is probably the best. | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32281 Posts
| ||
| ||
