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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4146 Posts
February 29 2004 19:52 GMT
#1
So here it iserg goes for expand and fairly fast lurker with not so many drones and protoss try either zelot rush or corsair rush with darks and expand and this always ends zerg containing protoss with lurkers in front of his natural:-))so protoss mass and wait for observer/goons and zerg expands,but sometimes zergs are building hatchery and many sunkens slowing his expnads and most of that games zerg always win.Nothing special here u ll say ,but I made some calculations and I understood that zerg can always do this taktic,because hatchery and sunkens always went before mass goons and obs(eventually zergs can kill first 2-3 observers too) and if toss goes for fast observer he must fight the lurkers with zealots which is not very good especially if zerg sacrifeced his economy to make more troops to contain.What I am trying to say is that if zerg users want to do that strat they can do it almost any game and this is most of the time gg for the protoss:-))
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-02-29 20:07:07
February 29 2004 19:56 GMT
#2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=10

strat forum is here.. its better if all strategy related topics are kept in there for easy reference
AUSSIESCUM
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SpuniasauR
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia1500 Posts
February 29 2004 19:57 GMT
#3
so?

forgive me for saying its not that simple
A firebat to your Zergling.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-02-29 20:33:03
February 29 2004 19:58 GMT
#4
so sorry didnt know about this strategy forum:-(((
I never post for few months:-)
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
February 29 2004 20:02 GMT
#5
admin will move this thread to the strategy forum later..

what is the point you are trying to get at here? that toss can be contained with lurkers?
AUSSIESCUM
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4146 Posts
February 29 2004 20:18 GMT
#6
no no no its not so hard I tried it of course several times against much better players(protoss) than me and I awlays lose but I also always succed to build the hatchery and several sunkens
And zerg is my worst race and I am an average player with terran(my race) and awful player with zerg and I lost to some gay dark templar and high templar drops and forgetting to make sunkens and he went through my contain and so on,but I always managed to build that hatchery:-))
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4146 Posts
February 29 2004 20:19 GMT
#7
On March 01 2004 05:02 SoMuchBetter wrote:
admin will move this thread to the strategy forum later..

what is the point you are trying to get at here? that toss can be contained with lurkers?

The point is that protoss can be contained with hatchery+lurkesrs every single game
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 29 2004 20:26 GMT
#8
well this is the Broodwar section and he's talking about, Broodwar. So go figure.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
bbz
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden416 Posts
February 29 2004 20:29 GMT
#9
On March 01 2004 05:26 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
well this is the Broodwar section and he's talking about, Broodwar. So go figure.


and the strategy is for? chess?
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
February 29 2004 20:48 GMT
#10
vs zerg.+_+ you have to try something new...something unexpected +_+;
Ceril
Profile Joined April 2003
Sweden1343 Posts
February 29 2004 20:59 GMT
#11
On March 01 2004 05:29 bbz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2004 05:26 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
well this is the Broodwar section and he's talking about, Broodwar. So go figure.


and the strategy is for? chess?


Interesting Idea, better try it sometime :-)

I just hate when zerg does that to me anyhow :-/
Just because you can now store where everyone was and is, what they like, what they fear who they talk to and who they love. It does not mean we should so spy upon our fellow man in a dystopia far worse then 1984
chicken`
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany3478 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-02-29 21:22:22
February 29 2004 21:21 GMT
#12
erg haha ^_^.. -_- .. 8[
okok not funny
jeremy clarkson = god
DevAzTaYtA
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Oman2005 Posts
February 29 2004 22:43 GMT
#13
gosu strat, but not invincible... if protoss knows its coming it's GG zergy
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
March 01 2004 03:44 GMT
#14
Every Protoss knows when a lurker contain is coming. Corsairs will spot it. The issue is that you have to go templar anyway or three hatch hydras will kill you, since it's all from the same tech.
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
March 01 2004 11:31 GMT
#15
so let's take a look at the other side of the coin, what should a toss do if they know it's coming?
AUSSIESCUM
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Taguchi
Profile Joined February 2003
Greece1575 Posts
March 01 2004 11:54 GMT
#16
go reaver goon ? :o
Great minds might think alike, but fastest hands rule the day~
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
March 01 2004 12:36 GMT
#17
On March 01 2004 20:31 SoMuchBetter wrote:
so let's take a look at the other side of the coin, what should a toss do if they know it's coming?


Make sure you have your natural before the lurker contain (one geyser isn't going to cut it), and get some cannons against the ledge to protect against drops (stick your corsair up there to spot). Then tech up to observers as quickly as you can. Make a shuttle after the first observer or two, load a couple templar into it, and try to kill some drones while you mass up enough to break out of containment.

Best method I've found, anyway.

Anyone else have some tips?
tiffany
Profile Joined November 2003
3664 Posts
March 01 2004 12:57 GMT
#18
expanding pre-templar gets you killed doesn't it?
Overlord
Profile Joined May 2003
Romania651 Posts
March 01 2004 13:50 GMT
#19
On March 01 2004 21:57 tiffany wrote:
expanding pre-templar gets you killed doesn't it?


Why should it? My fav build vs zerg is to exp at like 5~6 zeals (he got sunks vs my rush, so he can't kill me in a counter)
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SpuniasauR
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia1500 Posts
March 01 2004 16:11 GMT
#20
well i know a zerger whos about my level who absolutely LOVES hatch + lurker. in konglish he calls it his flower garden, the only problem is it is beatable. drops work a treat, dt/ht, even if u ferry them outside his contain and return shuttle mass sair then dt ur way out works too, but some zergs will see it coming and put a spore in front in that case its gay. the other thing i luv doin verse him is in LT u cant contain and stop from expanding so i got 2 gas. i get 3-4 sair, dweb and goon my way out, thats so much fun and it gets u out without many casualties. the other thing about sair+dweb is u can use it before u bust out to delay by shooting down lords and webbin anything (eg. spore) i use it cuz i often grab a port or 2 earlish in the game.
A firebat to your Zergling.
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