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[Q] Dealing with SCV Rush

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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 26 2010 06:52 GMT
#1
I know I should have been able to stop this, but some guy all in rushed me with SCVs. My zealot was late, but I don't know what good that would have done. Obviously, it shouldn't have worked, but I'm at a loss of how to stop it. What should I have done differently?
(Wiki)SCV Rush
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
February 26 2010 06:58 GMT
#2
Do you have a replay?
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 26 2010 07:06 GMT
#3
That's the image. If you click it it brings you to the rep.
Dabba
Profile Joined January 2010
United States182 Posts
February 26 2010 07:14 GMT
#4
im at work so i cant watch it, but as a P player i scout after my first pylon, and if i see some cheese lieke that id alter my one gate core into a 2 gate iwith gettings lots asap. im aa D player so take that with a grain of salt
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-26 07:16:18
February 26 2010 07:14 GMT
#5
Should've been a draw, just attack with all your probes and the zealot. He had 7 scv's total. Also with your apm you'll be lucky to stop anything. I'm pretty sure the stacking thing he did is illegal anyway.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
February 26 2010 07:28 GMT
#6
Ok I watched the replay a few times.

I think it was pretty much bad luck that 12 was the last location that you scouted, because if you scouted it second, you would have seen the SCVs stacking. I have never actually seen SCV stacking used before, and I have no clue why it's even fair. Because of that, I would assume that it's illegal, but I'm not sure about it.

One thing that may or may not help is to build your pylon and gate close to your nexus instead of down at the cliff. It gives you a slight speed advantage early game, and later on, it'll be harder for siege tank to snipe your buildings.

L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 26 2010 07:40 GMT
#7
He did attack, terran floated away CC and rebuilt. And, yah what terran did with the stacking is definitely illegal on ICCUP. Biggest thing is that you let that guy attack your nexus for quite a while before you actually did anything about it, had you reacted sooner his SCV's would have been easily killed in time. You didn't send all your probes to attack the scv's until the shields on the nexus were entirely depleted. You can easily kill 8 workers with just your probes before 8 workers can bring down a nexus.

If someone does do a worker rush and actually goes for your workers, it isnt usually that hard to stop because you have time to build more workers by the time he reaches your base, so you'll always have the worker advantage.
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shinjin
Profile Joined January 2010
United States398 Posts
February 26 2010 07:55 GMT
#8
woah....how on earth did the terran stack that way..pardon me for being a novice

how does that work?
it seems as if he stacked the workers on the minerals first...then on the geyser.. then clicked the geyser in the opponents base?

but..how on earth do the scvs stay stacked as they attack the nexus..thats my question o_0
give it one more try because the best things in life dont come free.
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
February 26 2010 08:10 GMT
#9
lol
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
February 26 2010 08:14 GMT
#10
On February 26 2010 16:55 shinjin wrote:
woah....how on earth did the terran stack that way..pardon me for being a novice

how does that work?
it seems as if he stacked the workers on the minerals first...then on the geyser.. then clicked the geyser in the opponents base?

but..how on earth do the scvs stay stacked as they attack the nexus..thats my question o_0


hack
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shinjin
Profile Joined January 2010
United States398 Posts
February 26 2010 08:48 GMT
#11
On February 26 2010 17:14 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2010 16:55 shinjin wrote:
woah....how on earth did the terran stack that way..pardon me for being a novice

how does that work?
it seems as if he stacked the workers on the minerals first...then on the geyser.. then clicked the geyser in the opponents base?

but..how on earth do the scvs stay stacked as they attack the nexus..thats my question o_0


hack


i see.
i thought he had taken advantage of a glitch in the game i was not yet aware of
give it one more try because the best things in life dont come free.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6984 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-26 09:22:25
February 26 2010 09:21 GMT
#12
On February 26 2010 17:14 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2010 16:55 shinjin wrote:
woah....how on earth did the terran stack that way..pardon me for being a novice

how does that work?
it seems as if he stacked the workers on the minerals first...then on the geyser.. then clicked the geyser in the opponents base?

but..how on earth do the scvs stay stacked as they attack the nexus..thats my question o_0


hack

Its a glitch.. can be done with just a few queued clicks in your minerals and gas and voila.

It's illegal on iccup so just report the guy for it and you'll get your points back.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
February 26 2010 15:31 GMT
#13
On February 26 2010 17:14 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2010 16:55 shinjin wrote:
woah....how on earth did the terran stack that way..pardon me for being a novice

how does that work?
it seems as if he stacked the workers on the minerals first...then on the geyser.. then clicked the geyser in the opponents base?

but..how on earth do the scvs stay stacked as they attack the nexus..thats my question o_0


hack

..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Bad_Bambi2003
Profile Joined January 2010
1 Post
Last Edited: 2010-02-26 16:00:40
February 26 2010 16:00 GMT
#14
Not a hack its an easy glitch. Fastest players use it all the time to defend against early attacks. right click gas, shift right click gas, attack move. to location. all builder workers will stay stacked and attack anything enroute. AND it is illegal on Iccup.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 26 2010 18:47 GMT
#15
Yeah, I reacted slow. I thought it was only a couple, and wasn't used to lost temple, so I had trouble getting the probe into his base, so was messing around with that. And I just don't see a need to spam for APM.... I was screwed after the 4 minute mark tbh. I'll be sure to report the guy though.
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-26 19:00:04
February 26 2010 18:59 GMT
#16
On February 27 2010 01:00 Bad_Bambi2003 wrote:
Not a hack its an easy glitch. Fastest players use it all the time to defend against early attacks. right click gas, shift right click gas, attack move. to location. all builder workers will stay stacked and attack anything enroute. AND it is illegal on Iccup.


i try it, but doesnt work. The scvs reamins stacked only when are moving to a resource patch, they start to split when you move to a location, or attack something.

I thinks was a hack.


ps: also, you need a lot more APM and training. You are very slow and lack of micro.
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
February 26 2010 20:11 GMT
#17
On February 27 2010 03:59 No_eL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2010 01:00 Bad_Bambi2003 wrote:
Not a hack its an easy glitch. Fastest players use it all the time to defend against early attacks. right click gas, shift right click gas, attack move. to location. all builder workers will stay stacked and attack anything enroute. AND it is illegal on Iccup.


i try it, but doesnt work. The scvs reamins stacked only when are moving to a resource patch, they start to split when you move to a location, or attack something.

I thinks was a hack.


ps: also, you need a lot more APM and training. You are very slow and lack of micro.

It's a glitch, not a hack..
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LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
February 26 2010 20:14 GMT
#18
Is a week that i was praying for a scv rush replay.
(i am not joking guys)
I am just a cheese lover <3
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9719 Posts
February 26 2010 20:22 GMT
#19
On February 27 2010 03:59 No_eL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2010 01:00 Bad_Bambi2003 wrote:
Not a hack its an easy glitch. Fastest players use it all the time to defend against early attacks. right click gas, shift right click gas, attack move. to location. all builder workers will stay stacked and attack anything enroute. AND it is illegal on Iccup.


i try it, but doesnt work. The scvs reamins stacked only when are moving to a resource patch, they start to split when you move to a location, or attack something.

I thinks was a hack.


ps: also, you need a lot more APM and training. You are very slow and lack of micro.


then you're doing it wrong.

1) Select Workers
2) Right Click on minerals
3) BEFORE they reach, right click on gas
4) BEFORE they reach, shift click on gas
5) BEFORE they reach, shift click on whatever you wanna kill.
boomer hands
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
February 26 2010 23:33 GMT
#20
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 26 2010 23:43 GMT
#21
I know I need a lot more training though :|
Crazazyasian1337
Profile Joined October 2009
United States362 Posts
February 27 2010 03:58 GMT
#22
you dont have to click on the gas before they reach the minerals. you can spam right click on the minerals to make sure they are all stacked, then quickly right click the gas.
;)))))))))
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
February 27 2010 04:14 GMT
#23
this guy stacked mootalisks against me, hax
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
wut_wut3
Profile Joined December 2009
United States221 Posts
February 27 2010 04:32 GMT
#24
you have to shift attack the nexus so send out s scout while making 1st depot

yes, yes i am a noob
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
February 27 2010 05:04 GMT
#25
Just want to emphasize this further:
- Stacking workers is illegal on iCCup
- Stacking workers in general is an asshole thing to do, except perhaps on imba maps such as fastest.
- Stacking workers is a glitch, NOT a hack. Anyone can do it with enough practice.
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