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On July 29 2009 07:23 ZeitgeistMovie wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 29 2009 07:19 Etherone wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2009 07:08 arb wrote:
We need a statement from idra(who visits) to tell us who hosted the map Idra's going to be pissed when he sees this, and rightfully so. it's pretty revolting to see this, one thing is combat ex cheating to get B- on iccup which is in it's self disgusting, but this... this is a pro euro player in a tournament with a prize pool, run by the community and against other professionals. appalling to say the least, and congrats to dimaga he just lost any respect he had in the community and probably his spot on anymore community run tournaments. I would also like a rep pack of all previous dimaga tournament wins made available to check if this is the first time, or if this has been done often. Wow, you're already comfortable with saying all of this? And if you're wrong? Are you going to give him a public apology? Let it play out. See what the players have to say. Sheesh.
absolutely, and that is why i requested a reppack of all his tournament wins, although maybe his tournament losses should be included as well considering the outcome of the set.
nothing pisses me off more than cheating, especially on pro levels and within the foreign sc community no less.
since he moved his stacked drones when idra was scouting, i could hardly see how this is anything but cheating, although on the off chance this is just a coincidence I would gladly apologize to dimaga.
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That's too bad. I was really impressed with how well Dimaga did and only lost 1-2 with the 3rd game being to a *gasp* one base quick rush from IdrA.
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On July 29 2009 07:23 HnR)Insane wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2009 07:19 Liquid`NonY wrote:On July 29 2009 07:14 Senx wrote:Sooo... Idra created a game using a hacked map, and Dimaga used it to his advantage while idra didnt? Didn't idra have the same advantage as Dimaga? If so, he's def the one to blame since he actually made the game  :O the map file wasnt hacked. dimaga allegedly loaded a hack, similar to how one would load a map hack. this hack modifies the playing field so that the hacker's position has stacked mineral patches. Wow really? I thought the hack was just a hack to let him choose which start position he is (so like, he always gets top position). That's super crazy if it's a hack which actually adds mineral fields to the map --a
i wish there was Jaedong hack
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
aren't there programs to extract the map?
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Fuckin slippery cossack sluts!
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On July 29 2009 07:30 Kentor wrote:
aren't there programs to extract the map?
I think the map is extracted automatically when the replay is played... could be wrong.
EDIT: lol wtf is wrong with you louder
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was the same hack used in the other games by dimaga? Has anyone checked? Why would he hack only 1/3 games...? :\.
As others have said, im pretty sure more evidence, and idra, who hosted the map, needs to post the version he used to check if it is in fact rigged or not, before we all jump down dimaga's throat as a cheater without hearing the full story.
Havent watched the rep, but the whole 'moving drones' thing does sound sus as fuck.
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Germany2896 Posts
On July 29 2009 07:30 Kentor wrote:
aren't there programs to extract the map?
rexplorer
On July 29 2009 07:19 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2009 07:14 Senx wrote:Sooo... Idra created a game using a hacked map, and Dimaga used it to his advantage while idra didnt? Didn't idra have the same advantage as Dimaga? If so, he's def the one to blame since he actually made the game :O the map file wasnt hacked. dimaga allegedly loaded a hack, similar to how one would load a map hack. this hack modifies the playing field so that the hacker's position has stacked mineral patches.
I doubt that. While I believe that it could be possible to write a hack which allows you to choose the starting position(at least if you are host) I doubt it is possible to create minerals on the fly.
There also were hacks to make other players load your map even if you are not host, but it is not too likely that you can make the host himself download&use your version.
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wow, this is sad  I NEED THAT REPLAY ASAPILY!
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On July 29 2009 07:30 Kentor wrote:
aren't there programs to extract the map?
This one?
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LoL
You would think that people would... stop... cheating... Then again, I guess not. Hopefully this turns out to be some sort of weird coincidence, but so far most of the evidence seems to contradict that.
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can you make any specific conclusions here?
they played melee with a rigged map that idra hosted and dimaga abused that?
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Or, you can just upload to repdepot and DL it off of there.
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On July 29 2009 07:35 s.a.y wrote:
can you make any specific conclusions here?
they played melee with a rigged map that idra hosted and dimaga abused that?
If you feel compelled to post in a topic please read it.
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It's already up and I think it's the second-most downloaded rep lol iirc
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On July 29 2009 07:36 selboN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2009 07:35 s.a.y wrote:
can you make any specific conclusions here?
they played melee with a rigged map that idra hosted and dimaga abused that? If you feel compelled to post in a topic please read it.
i did, multiple times, thanks for asking.
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I just checked the replay really quick, and yeah... If you repeatedly alternate clicks a couple mineral patches, it'll eventually select you onto the stacked patch, which of course has a different number of minerals on it. The AI too was a bit strange, haha. Drones skipping patches that were open, and moving onto stacked patches with another drone.
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On July 29 2009 07:37 s.a.y wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2009 07:36 selboN wrote:On July 29 2009 07:35 s.a.y wrote:
can you make any specific conclusions here?
they played melee with a rigged map that idra hosted and dimaga abused that? If you feel compelled to post in a topic please read it. i did, multiple times, thanks for asking.
At the moment it is in question if there is a hack to stack minerals. Not that IdrA made a bugged map and Dimaga abused it.
Edit: rep -> map
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