On July 29 2009 09:04 keV. wrote:
Because everything you said here is wrong. I'll just say, no.
Because everything you said here is wrong. I'll just say, no.
i was going to say something but this was better haha
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lokiM
United States3407 Posts
On July 29 2009 09:04 keV. wrote: Show nested quote + On July 29 2009 09:01 SkytoM wrote: On July 29 2009 09:00 keV. wrote: On July 29 2009 08:59 SkytoM wrote: how can a guy like Idra only have like 55% wining rate?? Maybe by playing koreans? and other "guys like idra" i thought there are no Idras around. also do koreans even iccup? don't they train in their houses only to keep builds secret? and an amateur korean shouldn't beat idra. Because everything you said here is wrong. I'll just say, no. i was going to say something but this was better haha | ||
gotwater
United States179 Posts
On July 29 2009 09:01 SkytoM wrote: Show nested quote + On July 29 2009 09:00 keV. wrote: On July 29 2009 08:59 SkytoM wrote: how can a guy like Idra only have like 55% wining rate?? Maybe by playing koreans? and other "guys like idra" i thought there are no Idras around. also do koreans even iccup? don't they train in their houses only to keep builds secret? and an amateur korean shouldn't beat idra. http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/ladder.html | ||
deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On July 29 2009 09:01 SkytoM wrote: Show nested quote + On July 29 2009 09:00 keV. wrote: On July 29 2009 08:59 SkytoM wrote: how can a guy like Idra only have like 55% wining rate?? Maybe by playing koreans? and other "guys like idra" i thought there are no Idras around. also do koreans even iccup? don't they train in their houses only to keep builds secret? and an amateur korean shouldn't beat idra. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94532 Take a look at that thread to see how many korean pros play iccup. Theres also similar threads going back most seasons. | ||
Garnet
Vietnam9021 Posts
On July 29 2009 08:56 Zzoram wrote: Show nested quote + On July 29 2009 08:53 genwar wrote: On July 29 2009 08:49 motbob wrote: Idra doesn't cheat on Iccup, look at his rank ROFLFLFL http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/benlinus.html is Idra's iccup account. For the lazy: B+ Statistics 339 - 313 - 0 | iCCup | Destination 1.1 124 | 41% Which doesn't make sense, because he's played over 650 games according to those stats, but only 124 on Destination 1.1 made up 41% of games? Unless the statistics include last season. ICCUP stats never make sense to me. | ||
Dgtl
Canada889 Posts
On July 29 2009 09:01 SkytoM wrote: Show nested quote + On July 29 2009 09:00 keV. wrote: On July 29 2009 08:59 SkytoM wrote: how can a guy like Idra only have like 55% wining rate?? Maybe by playing koreans? and other "guys like idra" i thought there are no Idras around. also do koreans even iccup? don't they train in their houses only to keep builds secret? and an amateur korean shouldn't beat idra. Have you seen the who is who iccup thread? My god can you be that dumb? | ||
SkytoM
Austria1137 Posts
i'm used to wc3 stats i'm very 'sorry'. Grubbys and moons made 100-0 back then and everything under 80% win was a shame. | ||
Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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inReacH
Sweden1612 Posts
On July 29 2009 09:05 Garnet wrote: Show nested quote + On July 29 2009 08:56 Zzoram wrote: On July 29 2009 08:53 genwar wrote: On July 29 2009 08:49 motbob wrote: Idra doesn't cheat on Iccup, look at his rank ROFLFLFL http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/benlinus.html is Idra's iccup account. For the lazy: B+ Statistics 339 - 313 - 0 | iCCup | Destination 1.1 124 | 41% Which doesn't make sense, because he's played over 650 games according to those stats, but only 124 on Destination 1.1 made up 41% of games? Unless the statistics include last season. ICCUP stats never make sense to me. 124 is 41% of 300... could the formula they use not count past 300 lol? | ||
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motbob
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United States12546 Posts
- Idra hosted the game - The map itself was messed up - It doesn't look like Dimaga was trying to hide anything (some people disagree with this) - Idra has no reason to cheat, and especially has no reason to host with a map with a 50% chance of giving his opponent the advantage. | ||
Toxiferous
United States388 Posts
On July 29 2009 08:31 Crunchums wrote: Hey guys I have nothing new to add to the discussion but I'm going to make a post saying stuff that's already been said anyways. ^ sums up whole thread FUCK NOW IM CONTRIBUTING | ||
B1nary
Canada1267 Posts
Another possibility: Idra hosts rigged mapped by accident. Dimaga notices the stacking. Dimaga thinks, "hey, this gives me a much better chance of beating Idra, chances are, no one will find out, and even if they do find out, it'll be pretty easy for me to deny noticing it." Considering how much everyone's arguing right now, it's pretty clear that it'll be extremely difficult providing solid evidence that Dimaga did in fact notice. | ||
Nylan
United States795 Posts
On July 29 2009 09:10 motbob wrote: For those of you just joining us in this thread - Idra hosted the game - The map itself was messed up - It doesn't look like Dimaga was trying to hide anything (PEOPLE WHO WATCHED THE REPLAY disagree with this) - Idra has no reason to cheat, and especially has no reason to host with a map with a 50% chance of giving his opponent the advantage. Fixed | ||
Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On July 29 2009 09:12 Nylan wrote: Show nested quote + On July 29 2009 09:10 motbob wrote: For those of you just joining us in this thread - Idra hosted the game - The map itself was messed up - It doesn't look like Dimaga was trying to hide anything (PEOPLE WHO WATCHED THE REPLAY disagree with this) - Idra has no reason to cheat, and especially has no reason to host with a map with a 50% chance of giving his opponent the advantage. Fixed yeah though your post is kinda bullshit cause many of those who do agree also watched the replay. | ||
keV.
United States3214 Posts
On July 29 2009 09:08 SkytoM wrote: lol. what senseless noob bashing.. i'm used to wc3 stats i'm very 'sorry'. Grubbys and moons made 100-0 back then and everything under 80% win was a shame. Its not "senseless noob bashing" when you derail the thread with dumb questions that could easily be answered with common sense and the search function. | ||
7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On July 29 2009 09:13 Zzoram wrote: I'm going to watch the replay now, I need to see the suspicious behaviour myself. We should probably all do this. .... why do you post stuff like this On July 29 2009 08:01 Zzoram wrote: Show nested quote + On July 29 2009 07:59 zulu_nation8 wrote: On July 29 2009 07:57 lokiM wrote: On July 29 2009 07:56 zulu_nation8 wrote: but in the map extracted from the replay, only 12 o'clocks minerals are stacked? nope, most of the north bases are stacked so only the player who spawns at top gets the advantage, and the spawning points on the map are random? The hack altered the map, the replay saved the altered map, so extracting the map from the replay shows the stacked minerals. Dimaga moving his drones to hide the fact he's using stacked minerals so he clearly knew they were stacked and was hiding the fact from Idra's scout. if you hadn't actually seen it yourself :S | ||
arb
Noobville17921 Posts
Just watch the bottom patch while idras scv is alive. Just before the scv gets there the 2nd mining drone(on that patch) is moved to his natural. After idras scv dies dimaga doesnt bother evening things out and keeps his drones there. He knew it was stacked people. | ||
Jonoman92
United States9103 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On July 29 2009 09:15 7mk wrote: Show nested quote + On July 29 2009 09:13 Zzoram wrote: I'm going to watch the replay now, I need to see the suspicious behaviour myself. We should probably all do this. .... why do you post stuff like this Show nested quote + On July 29 2009 08:01 Zzoram wrote: On July 29 2009 07:59 zulu_nation8 wrote: On July 29 2009 07:57 lokiM wrote: On July 29 2009 07:56 zulu_nation8 wrote: but in the map extracted from the replay, only 12 o'clocks minerals are stacked? nope, most of the north bases are stacked so only the player who spawns at top gets the advantage, and the spawning points on the map are random? The hack altered the map, the replay saved the altered map, so extracting the map from the replay shows the stacked minerals. Dimaga moving his drones to hide the fact he's using stacked minerals so he clearly knew they were stacked and was hiding the fact from Idra's scout. if you hadn't actually seen it yourself :S I'm sorry, I was restating something that someone else said. I guess I got overly excited. | ||
Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On July 29 2009 09:10 inReacH wrote: Show nested quote + On July 29 2009 09:05 Garnet wrote: On July 29 2009 08:56 Zzoram wrote: On July 29 2009 08:53 genwar wrote: On July 29 2009 08:49 motbob wrote: Idra doesn't cheat on Iccup, look at his rank ROFLFLFL http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/benlinus.html is Idra's iccup account. For the lazy: B+ Statistics 339 - 313 - 0 | iCCup | Destination 1.1 124 | 41% Which doesn't make sense, because he's played over 650 games according to those stats, but only 124 on Destination 1.1 made up 41% of games? Unless the statistics include last season. ICCUP stats never make sense to me. 124 is 41% of 300... could the formula they use not count past 300 lol? If you look at the number of games it has listed for him under race stats it shows 302 games, 124/302 = ~41%. The race/map stats are taken from the matchlist which does not include games played under different accounts before transferring stats. I watched the replay and only saw one instance of anything that even remotely looked like Dimaga was attempting to hide something from Idra, but I don't think it was really particularly suspicious even in that case. | ||
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