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[False Alarm]IdrA vs Eurotrash (Dimaga Highlander) - Page 15

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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 29 2009 00:19 GMT
#281
On July 29 2009 09:17 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 09:15 7mk wrote:
On July 29 2009 09:13 Zzoram wrote:
I'm going to watch the replay now, I need to see the suspicious behaviour myself. We should probably all do this.


....
why do you post stuff like this

On July 29 2009 08:01 Zzoram wrote:
On July 29 2009 07:59 zulu_nation8 wrote:
On July 29 2009 07:57 lokiM wrote:
On July 29 2009 07:56 zulu_nation8 wrote:
but in the map extracted from the replay, only 12 o'clocks minerals are stacked?

nope, most of the north bases are stacked


so only the player who spawns at top gets the advantage, and the spawning points on the map are random?


The hack altered the map, the replay saved the altered map, so extracting the map from the replay shows the stacked minerals.

Dimaga moving his drones to hide the fact he's using stacked minerals so he clearly knew they were stacked and was hiding the fact from Idra's scout.


if you hadn't actually seen it yourself :S


I'm sorry, I was restating something that someone else said. I guess I got overly excited.


I guess it's been too long since the last TL esports drama ^^
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-29 00:23:19
July 29 2009 00:19 GMT
#282
Well, by around ~1:50 you can see 3 drones mining from the 2 bottom patches in the main. This is before there is much going on, so if you look at your main, you can see it.

The worst part is that those 3 drones actively mine 2 patches at the bottom while one patch at the top is being ignored for quite a while.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
July 29 2009 00:21 GMT
#283
On July 29 2009 09:08 SkytoM wrote:
lol. what senseless noob bashing..

i'm used to wc3 stats i'm very 'sorry'. Grubbys and moons made 100-0 back then and everything under 80% win was a shame.

Um, Grubby and Moon's skilled level compared to everyone elses' in WC3 is not the same as Idra's skill level compared to everyone elses' in SC.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
July 29 2009 00:22 GMT
#284
On July 29 2009 09:11 B1nary wrote:
Anyone consider the possibility that the coincidental timing between Dimaga moving his drones and Idra's SCV arriving results from Dimaga seeing the SCV? I mean... I'd want to put my screen on the red dot in my base when I see it on the minimap. And if I happened to see stacked drones as a result, I would move them to another patch or another base.

Another possibility: Idra hosts rigged mapped by accident. Dimaga notices the stacking. Dimaga thinks, "hey, this gives me a much better chance of beating Idra, chances are, no one will find out, and even if they do find out, it'll be pretty easy for me to deny noticing it." Considering how much everyone's arguing right now, it's pretty clear that it'll be extremely difficult providing solid evidence that Dimaga did in fact notice.


i dont think the people running highlander would just go "lol ok he said he didnt notice, np"
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
July 29 2009 00:23 GMT
#285
On July 29 2009 09:16 arb wrote:
Honestly if you dont see dimaga was trying to hide anything youre either. Very bad at noticing details , or an Idra hater that doesnt want to admit someone had to cheat to beat him.

Just watch the bottom patch while idras scv is alive. Just before the scv gets there the 2nd mining drone(on that patch) is moved to his natural. After idras scv dies dimaga doesnt bother evening things out and keeps his drones there.
He knew it was stacked people.

If you're going to tell me that I'm a) bad at watching replays or b) biased just because I hold an opinion, then get the fuck out.

I've already said that when Idra's SCV went up the ramp, it stopped. Dimaga had no way of knowing it wasn't going to go straight to his minerals, so if he were trying to hide something, he would have moved the stacked drones. He didn't.
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tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
July 29 2009 00:23 GMT
#286
Curious to see what happens next. Ironic that Dimaga still lost :S would be more drama if he won.
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infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
July 29 2009 00:24 GMT
#287
Even if he did notice why would he risk moving his drones around and make it obvious in replay, when he could just leave it as normal and get the advantage and if Idra noticed then he could say 'well you hosted game' anyway.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
July 29 2009 00:24 GMT
#288
Well this is going to be harder to do in SC2 as maps and replays are different files. Slight changes at map will mean that you can't run that replay without having correct map.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
July 29 2009 00:25 GMT
#289
On July 29 2009 09:16 arb wrote:
Honestly if you dont see dimaga was trying to hide anything youre either. Very bad at noticing details , or an Idra hater that doesnt want to admit someone had to cheat to beat him.

Just watch the bottom patch while idras scv is alive. Just before the scv gets there the 2nd mining drone(on that patch) is moved to his natural. After idras scv dies dimaga doesnt bother evening things out and keeps his drones there.
He knew it was stacked people.

there's no point into listening to you
for 1 you don't play zerg and don't understand that you have to transfer drones in order to even the drones per base, DIMAGA did nothing 'suspicious', you guys that keep saying this make me laugh, if he was trying to hide it then why didn't he do anything when IdrA was scanning? he would've definitely saw stacked drones.

If there is no hack that completely alters a playing field and changes the map within a game, then this is already solved
IDRA HOSTED A BOGUS MAP BY ACCIDENT AND DIMAGA JUST HAPPENED TO BE ON TOP
You can't fight the feeling.
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
July 29 2009 00:25 GMT
#290
On July 29 2009 09:23 tobi9999 wrote:
Curious to see what happens next. Ironic that Dimaga still lost :S would be more drama if he won.

He won the game or are you talking about the series?
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-29 00:27:36
July 29 2009 00:26 GMT
#291
Yeah, so from around 1:48 onwards, you can clearly see drones mining stacked minerals at the bottom of the main. If you are an A level player, you should realize how many drones you have, and that there is 1 patch not being mined at the top when you have 9 drones, which doesn't make sense. That would probably make you look closer at what your drones are doing to see if they glitched.
cyberspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada955 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-29 00:28:41
July 29 2009 00:27 GMT
#292
For those that can't see or are too lazy to open the rep, here's a quick sample:

+ Show Spoiler +
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
July 29 2009 00:27 GMT
#293
uuuh i dont have time to read the whole thread right now but i hosted that game
i must have just dled a rigged map while playing on iccup, can someone tell me the file name so i can delete it?
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-29 00:30:16
July 29 2009 00:29 GMT
#294
RoX.DIMAGA wrote:
LOL yea realy i see now replay and its realy stack i was OO WTF ?? and see the map in DOWNLOAD same names just have some " " and in that map only in 12 hours always same shit(4 drones mining top 2 minerals), i dont remmeber who create game i think it was idra ...
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
July 29 2009 00:29 GMT
#295
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
July 29 2009 00:29 GMT
#296
On July 29 2009 09:27 IdrA wrote:
uuuh i dont have time to read the whole thread right now but i hosted that game
i must have just dled a rigged map while playing on iccup, can someone tell me the file name so i can delete it?

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lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
July 29 2009 00:30 GMT
#297
I told you guise.. keke
You can't fight the feeling.
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
July 29 2009 00:30 GMT
#298
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
July 29 2009 00:30 GMT
#299
On July 29 2009 09:29 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 09:27 IdrA wrote:
uuuh i dont have time to read the whole thread right now but i hosted that game
i must have just dled a rigged map while playing on iccup, can someone tell me the file name so i can delete it?

ANTICLIMAX


Yeah, less exciting, but probably better for the Starcraft scene.
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
July 29 2009 00:32 GMT
#300
It's only anticlimax if dimaga didn't notice. Let's hope so.
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