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[False Alarm]IdrA vs Eurotrash (Dimaga Highlander) - Page 13

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Lord_of_Chaos
Profile Joined June 2007
Sweden372 Posts
July 28 2009 23:48 GMT
#241
On July 29 2009 08:45 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 06:52 Pads wrote:
Props to the guy at gg.net who found noticed this. Most of us would not have seen this.


Where is their thread about this?

It's the idra vs dimaga replay.
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/replays/22046
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
July 28 2009 23:48 GMT
#242
Just to make things more clear. There are 2 times when dimaga moves his drones off of the stacked patch when the SCV is in his main. The first time, he takes 1 drone from each stacked patch, and puts them onto his gas mine. He didn't take the 2 closest drones, he chose 1 drone from each stacked patch. Thats pretty fishy.

The 2nd time is at exactly 4:30. Idras scout scv is coming around the bottom of dimagas mineral patch. He has 1 drone on each patch, and another drone is headed towards the stacked mineral patch. Seeing the scv right there, it looks like dimaga stops his drone before it goes to the stacked patch, turns it around, and sends it to his expo. Out of all his drones, he picks the one that is about to goto the stacked patch, just as idras scv is going by. Seems a bit fishy yes?
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
July 28 2009 23:49 GMT
#243
Idra doesn't cheat on Iccup, look at his rank ROFLFLFL
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
July 28 2009 23:52 GMT
#244
On July 29 2009 08:48 eXigent. wrote:
Just to make things more clear. There are 2 times when dimaga moves his drones off of the stacked patch when the SCV is in his main. The first time, he takes 1 drone from each stacked patch, and puts them onto his gas mine. He didn't take the 2 closest drones, he chose 1 drone from each stacked patch. Thats pretty fishy.

The 2nd time is at exactly 4:30. Idras scout scv is coming around the bottom of dimagas mineral patch. He has 1 drone on each patch, and another drone is headed towards the stacked mineral patch. Seeing the scv right there, it looks like dimaga stops his drone before it goes to the stacked patch, turns it around, and sends it to his expo. Out of all his drones, he picks the one that is about to goto the stacked patch, just as idras scv is going by. Seems a bit fishy yes?


Yeah, regardless if a hack was used or not, DIMAGA probably knew about the stacked minerals and was abusing them.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
July 28 2009 23:53 GMT
#245
On July 29 2009 08:48 eXigent. wrote:
Just to make things more clear. There are 2 times when dimaga moves his drones off of the stacked patch when the SCV is in his main. The first time, he takes 1 drone from each stacked patch, and puts them onto his gas mine. He didn't take the 2 closest drones, he chose 1 drone from each stacked patch. Thats pretty fishy.

The 2nd time is at exactly 4:30. Idras scout scv is coming around the bottom of dimagas mineral patch. He has 1 drone on each patch, and another drone is headed towards the stacked mineral patch. Seeing the scv right there, it looks like dimaga stops his drone before it goes to the stacked patch, turns it around, and sends it to his expo. Out of all his drones, he picks the one that is about to goto the stacked patch, just as idras scv is going by. Seems a bit fishy yes?


Not saying Dimaga isn't guilty but this still doesn't explain away the possibility of him just noticing that two Drones were stacked and thinking they weren't mining (or would be replaced immediately if taken off) and switching them to gas for efficiency purposes. It's the kind of thing I do in the early game and I'm a D+ player....

As for the expo thing, balancing Drones is a possible explanation. Again, maybe the odds of all these coincidences is too low, I don't know. Just know that if you were playing on a rigged map and didn't know it was rigged, it would look like Drones were stacking retardedly and you would make an effort to spread them out.
genwar
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada537 Posts
July 28 2009 23:53 GMT
#246
On July 29 2009 08:49 motbob wrote:
Idra doesn't cheat on Iccup, look at his rank ROFLFLFL


http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/benlinus.html is Idra's iccup account.
Dreadwave
Profile Joined January 2008
Netherlands254 Posts
July 28 2009 23:54 GMT
#247
On July 29 2009 08:46 Dazed_Spy wrote:
I dont get it, why would someone rig a map that way? I mean, you dont know what position your going to be in, and I don't see how it specifically helps you if the benefit can be given to all players?

You would need a hack to ensure you get the correct starting location, something like that should be easy to make, and I assume it already exists. If you are not the host you would also need a hack to have the game played on your map.
Doesn't iccup launcher only check for memory modification during the game, not in the lobby?
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
July 28 2009 23:56 GMT
#248
On July 29 2009 08:53 genwar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 08:49 motbob wrote:
Idra doesn't cheat on Iccup, look at his rank ROFLFLFL


http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/benlinus.html is Idra's iccup account.


For the lazy:

B+
Statistics
339 - 313 - 0

| iCCup | Destination 1.1
124 | 41%



Which doesn't make sense, because he's played over 650 games according to those stats, but only 124 on Destination 1.1 made up 41% of games? Unless the statistics include last season.
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
July 28 2009 23:56 GMT
#249
wow, this is pretty blatant cheating, anyone who watches the replay with both eyes can see it.
hi
420zerg
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia47 Posts
July 28 2009 23:58 GMT
#250
On July 29 2009 08:53 genwar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 08:49 motbob wrote:
Idra doesn't cheat on Iccup, look at his rank ROFLFLFL


http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/benlinus.html is Idra's iccup account.

He's only B+? I see he has been A- in his history but still, lower than i expected
smokin on the dro
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
July 28 2009 23:58 GMT
#251
On July 29 2009 08:56 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 08:53 genwar wrote:
On July 29 2009 08:49 motbob wrote:
Idra doesn't cheat on Iccup, look at his rank ROFLFLFL


http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/benlinus.html is Idra's iccup account.


For the lazy:

B+
Statistics
339 - 313 - 0

| iCCup | Destination 1.1
124 | 41%



Which doesn't make sense, because he's played over 650 games according to those stats, but only 124 on Destination 1.1 made up 41% of games? Unless the statistics include last season.


Because he transferred stats from another account, for map/race stats it only counts the games played on that account.
BW forever || Thall
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
July 28 2009 23:59 GMT
#252
What is this maddness???

When this is finally resolved I hope to see a newspost.
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
July 28 2009 23:59 GMT
#253
how can a guy like Idra only have like 55% wining rate??
Bisu... ;-(
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
July 29 2009 00:00 GMT
#254
On July 29 2009 08:59 SkytoM wrote:
how can a guy like Idra only have like 55% wining rate??


Maybe by playing koreans? and other "guys like idra"
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
July 29 2009 00:01 GMT
#255
On July 29 2009 09:00 keV. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 08:59 SkytoM wrote:
how can a guy like Idra only have like 55% wining rate??


Maybe by playing koreans? and other "guys like idra"


i thought there are no Idras around. also do koreans even iccup? don't they train in their houses only to keep builds secret? and an amateur korean shouldn't beat idra.
Bisu... ;-(
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 29 2009 00:01 GMT
#256
On July 29 2009 08:45 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 08:36 Zzoram wrote:
On July 29 2009 08:34 Mikilatov wrote:
Here's how I see it...

If it's a mineral stacking HACK, then yes, it was Dimaga.

If it's a rigged map, then it's an accident. Idra was the host. Idra would not 50% gamble an advantage when he's the better player without it. That's statistically detrimental.

So I see no way Idra can be at fault here.


Yeah, plus the worst that could happen to dimaga is he gets banned from foreign tournaments and tries to come back with a new name. Idra could get kicked out of CJ, and sent home with a horrible shame that would haunt him forever.


I don't think IdrA would ever be kicked out for something like that haha


It would really make CJ look bad if they kept IdrA on the team for cheating.

SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 29 2009 00:03 GMT
#257
On July 29 2009 09:01 SkytoM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 09:00 keV. wrote:
On July 29 2009 08:59 SkytoM wrote:
how can a guy like Idra only have like 55% wining rate??


Maybe by playing koreans? and other "guys like idra"


i thought there are no Idras around. also do koreans even iccup? don't they train in their houses only to keep builds secret? and an amateur korean shouldn't beat idra.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=94532
Lots of progamers use ICCUP


well, not lots. But they do.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-29 00:04:36
July 29 2009 00:03 GMT
#258
Idra does worse on iccup than he does in tournaments cause he leaves games early when they don't really count. At least that's my theory.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 29 2009 00:03 GMT
#259
On July 29 2009 08:59 SkytoM wrote:
how can a guy like Idra only have like 55% wining rate??


Shows you how playing at korean hours makes a world of a difference.
Though I am also surprised he is only B+ after that many games.
beep boop
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
July 29 2009 00:04 GMT
#260
On July 29 2009 09:01 SkytoM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 09:00 keV. wrote:
On July 29 2009 08:59 SkytoM wrote:
how can a guy like Idra only have like 55% wining rate??


Maybe by playing koreans? and other "guys like idra"


i thought there are no Idras around. also do koreans even iccup? don't they train in their houses only to keep builds secret? and an amateur korean shouldn't beat idra.


Because everything you said here is wrong. I'll just say, no.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
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