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[False Alarm]IdrA vs Eurotrash (Dimaga Highlander) - Page 11

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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 23:18:56
July 28 2009 23:18 GMT
#201
On July 29 2009 08:16 infinity2k9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 08:15 Nightmarjoo wrote:
On July 29 2009 08:14 infinity2k9 wrote:
A few things i wanted to say, has anyone checked the map for a trigger that forces one player to spawn in a location? Plus even though Idra hosted isn't it possible they played before with Dimega hosting first with the map?

melee has no triggers


Oh so it definitely was played on melee then? Well. It would be retarded to take a 50/50 risk of giving yourself an advantage.


And if Idra hosted, I can't imagine he'd think he would need an advantage to win.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
July 28 2009 23:19 GMT
#202
which means he mistakenly hosted a rigged map
You can't fight the feeling.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
July 28 2009 23:21 GMT
#203
Makes you wonder whos using stacked min maps on iccup then. Idra would be only playing at high levels if he accidently picked it up too.
Not_A_Notion
Profile Joined May 2009
Ireland441 Posts
July 28 2009 23:22 GMT
#204
Which also means he is damn lucky that he didn't spawn at 12
A worrying lack of anvils
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
July 28 2009 23:23 GMT
#205
On July 29 2009 08:22 Not_A_Notion wrote:
Which also means he is damn lucky that he didn't spawn at 12


Yea that could've been disastrous.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 28 2009 23:23 GMT
#206
Idra wouldn't play out the game if he saw there were stacked minerals... 1) he doesn't need to use any kind of advantage to beat people, and 2) something like that could cause him a lot of trouble so he would avoid it...
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 23:24:48
July 28 2009 23:23 GMT
#207
OK i rewatched the replay.. it's pretty clear that if Dimaga was hacking, he wasn't trying to hide it.

When idra's SCV first comes up the ramp, it stops before getting to the mins of Dimaga's main. However, Dimaga had no way of knowing it would stop. If he were trying to hide the stacked mins, he would have transferred his drones right away. He didn't.

On July 29 2009 08:22 Not_A_Notion wrote:
Which also means he is damn lucky that he didn't spawn at 12

Thinking about that shitstorm makes me shudder.
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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
July 28 2009 23:24 GMT
#208
if idra hosted the game, it is his mistake, not dimagas. then idra is the cheater, even if he spawned at the "wrong corner".

if dimaga had a trigger to pull off a hack, then dimaga is the cheater.

i hate when people are so bias towards idra.
I am not good with quotes
KillForce
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden36 Posts
July 28 2009 23:24 GMT
#209
for my two cents, after watching the sequence with the scouting scv, I really didn't think it was all that conclusive that dimaga moved drones out of the way. If he did, he did a really bad job. The SCV was very close to actively stacking drones for quite some time. He did move some drones at the top patches that were stacking, but those drones went to the extractor. It's not weird that he selected the closest drones for that.

He was also stacking visibly later on when idra moved his pre-muta attack into the nat.

Maybe I'm missing something though. This sure is a mystery, it sounds so weird that you don't know what to think. It's a good thing that it didn't affect the outcome of the series.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
July 28 2009 23:24 GMT
#210
Man, I hope Starcraft 2 solves the garbage map issue by pushing out Blizzard stamped maps (community made and chosen, or Blizzard made) and forcing their use through automated match making. Then there can only be the explanation of cheating if something goes wrong, making it more cut and dry.
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
July 28 2009 23:24 GMT
#211
On July 29 2009 07:08 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 06:53 MYM.Testie wrote:
It could just be a bad version of a map. Did he even host the game? Sometimes that stuff just happens due to lame maps being around.

[image loading]


Someone explain, i thought testie was only caught map hacking, not rigged maps, there was other times where he was caught?
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
July 28 2009 23:25 GMT
#212
I wonder if anyone would even notice stacked workers.
Not_A_Notion
Profile Joined May 2009
Ireland441 Posts
July 28 2009 23:26 GMT
#213
Fair point but its something that could be easy to miss out on also, I do believe if he had spotted it he would have called it but if he hadn't.., but then "if ifs and buts", waiting to see that vid of drones being moved, I can't really see it so i need it explained
A worrying lack of anvils
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
July 28 2009 23:26 GMT
#214
On July 29 2009 08:24 Zzoram wrote:
Man, I hope Starcraft 2 solves the garbage map issue by pushing out Blizzard stamped maps (community made and chosen, or Blizzard made) and forcing their use through automated match making. Then there can only be the explanation of cheating if something goes wrong, making it more cut and dry.

That would force them to be very active in the community to make sure the blizzard maps were relatively balanced and popular, and they have never indicated they wanted to be that involved.
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KillForce
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden36 Posts
July 28 2009 23:26 GMT
#215
On July 29 2009 08:24 s.a.y wrote:
if idra hosted the game, it is his mistake, not dimagas. then idra is the cheater, even if he spawned at the "wrong corner".

if dimaga had a trigger to pull off a hack, then dimaga is the cheater.

i hate when people are so bias towards idra.


Yes, but what is idras motivation for doing this? It does not make sense that he would cheat. Still, the evidence does point towards that. :/
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
July 28 2009 23:26 GMT
#216
On July 29 2009 08:24 rei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 07:08 Kennigit wrote:
On July 29 2009 06:53 MYM.Testie wrote:
It could just be a bad version of a map. Did he even host the game? Sometimes that stuff just happens due to lame maps being around.

[image loading]


Someone explain, i thought testie was only caught map hacking, not rigged maps, there was other times where he was caught?


I think the point is that it's ironic that Testie would defend the accused cheater, since he himself was caught for cheating. I don't think the type of cheating really matters for the joke to work.
inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
July 28 2009 23:26 GMT
#217
On July 29 2009 08:24 rei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 07:08 Kennigit wrote:
On July 29 2009 06:53 MYM.Testie wrote:
It could just be a bad version of a map. Did he even host the game? Sometimes that stuff just happens due to lame maps being around.

[image loading]


Someone explain, i thought testie was only caught map hacking, not rigged maps, there was other times where he was caught?


It's still funny when a known cheater insta-defends a possible other cheater like they have a god given insta-bond.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 23:29:02
July 28 2009 23:28 GMT
#218
On July 29 2009 08:23 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 08:22 Not_A_Notion wrote:
Which also means he is damn lucky that he didn't spawn at 12

Thinking about that shitstorm makes me shudder.


Yeah, that would be TERRIBLE. I bet CJ would kick him out for it, which is why I doubt he would do it. He's living the dream, no way he would risk cheating..
Dreadwave
Profile Joined January 2008
Netherlands254 Posts
July 28 2009 23:28 GMT
#219
Are there hacks that allow you to change the map that is hosted and/or pick your start location? I know that there are hosthacks but I don't know what's possible with those.

Rigging a map like that doesn't seem that good if you need to get lucky with your spawn first.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
July 28 2009 23:31 GMT
#220
Hey guys I have nothing new to add to the discussion but I'm going to make a post saying stuff that's already been said anyways.
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