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[False Alarm]IdrA vs Eurotrash (Dimaga Highlander) - Page 9

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lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
July 28 2009 22:57 GMT
#161
On July 29 2009 07:56 zulu_nation8 wrote:
but in the map extracted from the replay, only 12 o'clocks minerals are stacked?

nope, most of the north bases are stacked
You can't fight the feeling.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 28 2009 22:57 GMT
#162
On July 29 2009 07:53 JWD wrote:
Hacked map or not, nobody's explained this yet:

Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 06:37 arb wrote:
EDIT : Oh wow, he was actually moving the double mining drones away when idras scv would come..

Just wow


He definently knew they were stacked and said nothing, also went to great lengths to ensure Idras SCV never saw the drones mining them until after the scv died.
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Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
July 28 2009 22:59 GMT
#163
I don't think extracting the map from the replay is going to produce accurate results, because the hack could conflict with it.

But yes, if you watch the replay, there are CLEARLY multiple drones mining one patch, and this occurs ONLY in Dimaga's base. Also, it's apparent that he moves them away when scouted, as has already been said. In addition to this, if you repeatedly click on and off a patch, you'll eventually select the second patch with a different mineral count, as shown in the OP's screenshots.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 28 2009 22:59 GMT
#164
On July 29 2009 07:57 lokiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 07:56 zulu_nation8 wrote:
but in the map extracted from the replay, only 12 o'clocks minerals are stacked?

nope, most of the north bases are stacked


so only the player who spawns at top gets the advantage, and the spawning points on the map are random?
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
July 28 2009 22:59 GMT
#165
This all doesn't explain how Dimaga would not say anything as in good sportsmanship if it was just rigged "map" but instead just keep playing...how is that not suspicious?
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
July 28 2009 22:59 GMT
#166
So the extracted map shows stacked minerals in dimaga's half of the map only, and a hack was used to modify the map, that's the version that would be in the replay so that doesn't tell us too much. The replay shows him strategically moving his double stacked mining drones away when Idra has vision. That tells a lot.
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
July 28 2009 22:59 GMT
#167
On July 29 2009 07:57 FranzF1 wrote:
So.. the map was altered and Idra Hosted the map?
And Dimaga is the cheater? this is weird... really weird.


hard to say, we could be just downloading the altered map that was saved in the replay. Only way to know if the actual map was stacked is to have Idra release the map (not the replay version)
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 23:00:42
July 28 2009 23:00 GMT
#168
I'm gonna make a youtube video of dimaga moving drones away from the SCV... brb

EDIT: AHHHH HAKU TEMPLAAA
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lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
July 28 2009 23:00 GMT
#169
On July 29 2009 07:59 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 07:57 lokiM wrote:
On July 29 2009 07:56 zulu_nation8 wrote:
but in the map extracted from the replay, only 12 o'clocks minerals are stacked?

nope, most of the north bases are stacked


so only the player who spawns at top gets the advantage, and the spawning points on the map are random?

yes, this would be my guess because IdrA was the host and he spawned at the bottom
You can't fight the feeling.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 28 2009 23:00 GMT
#170
On July 29 2009 07:57 FranzF1 wrote:
So.. the map was altered and Idra Hosted the map?
And Dimaga is the cheater? this is weird... really weird.

It still makes no sense for Idra to host a hack map and not cheat on it himself.

If that adding mineral hack exists this is proof
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13079 Posts
July 28 2009 23:00 GMT
#171
lol drama this is why exatcly i leave from created game when i see download going on when i know i got all iccup maps 100%
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 23:02:22
July 28 2009 23:01 GMT
#172
On July 29 2009 07:59 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 07:57 lokiM wrote:
On July 29 2009 07:56 zulu_nation8 wrote:
but in the map extracted from the replay, only 12 o'clocks minerals are stacked?

nope, most of the north bases are stacked


so only the player who spawns at top gets the advantage, and the spawning points on the map are random?


The hack altered the map, the replay saved the altered map, so extracting the map from the replay shows the stacked minerals.

Dimaga moving his drones to hide the fact he's using stacked minerals so he clearly knew they were stacked and was hiding the fact from Idra's scout.
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
July 28 2009 23:02 GMT
#173
dramaga
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knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
July 28 2009 23:02 GMT
#174
On July 29 2009 07:53 JWD wrote:
Hacked map or not, nobody's explained this yet:

Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 06:37 arb wrote:
EDIT : Oh wow, he was actually moving the double mining drones away when idras scv would come..

Just wow



I just watched the replay and I didn't see this at all. While the scv was scouting, Dimaga never had more then a 1 to 1 drone mineral ratio so he never had to move drones around.
If you watch game 2 (no stacked minerals) he uses that same idea and only uses 9 drones for his main.
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
July 28 2009 23:02 GMT
#175
On July 29 2009 07:57 FranzF1 wrote:
So.. the map was altered and Idra Hosted the map?
And Dimaga is the cheater? this is weird... really weird.


It has to be an accident I would think...seems unlikely Idra would knowingly give his opponent an unfair advantage, especially in a $1000 tournament.
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Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
July 28 2009 23:02 GMT
#176
The map's top bases' outer two minerals on both sides/top/bottom are all double stack, there was no hack used to "add minerals", or if there was, it was unnecessary. If Idra hosted map, Dimiga couldn't have known the map had stacked minerals and thus it's incredibly unlikely that he used a hack to guarantee himself the top position.
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Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 28 2009 23:02 GMT
#177
I can't wait for idra to wake up and see this
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
July 28 2009 23:03 GMT
#178
I don't see exactly where DIMAGA moved drones away from idras scv? some1 give me a time of when it happens?
You can't fight the feeling.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
July 28 2009 23:03 GMT
#179
Oh man, waiting for IdrA's reaction
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Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
July 28 2009 23:04 GMT
#180
On July 29 2009 08:02 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 07:57 FranzF1 wrote:
So.. the map was altered and Idra Hosted the map?
And Dimaga is the cheater? this is weird... really weird.


It has to be an accident I would think...seems unlikely Idra would knowingly give his opponent an unfair advantage, especially in a $1000 tournament.


Idra wouldn't do this on purpose, and he may have done nothing at all. Dimaga may have been using a hack to alter the map after it started.
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