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[False Alarm]IdrA vs Eurotrash (Dimaga Highlander) - Page 4

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Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 28 2009 22:19 GMT
#61
On July 29 2009 07:17 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 07:11 kNyTTyM wrote:
bwrepinfo says creator was idra.

UH OH! LETS JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS GUYS!


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Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
July 28 2009 22:19 GMT
#62
On July 29 2009 07:08 arb wrote:
We need a statement from idra(who visits) to tell us who hosted the map


Idra's going to be pissed when he sees this, and rightfully so.
it's pretty revolting to see this, one thing is combat ex cheating to get B- on iccup which is in it's self disgusting, but this... this is a pro euro player in a tournament with a prize pool, run by the community and against other professionals.

appalling to say the least, and congrats to dimaga he just lost any respect he had in the community and probably his spot on anymore community run tournaments.

I would also like a rep pack of all previous dimaga tournament wins made available to check if this is the first time, or if this has been done often.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
July 28 2009 22:19 GMT
#63
On July 29 2009 07:14 Senx wrote:
Sooo... Idra created a game using a hacked map, and Dimaga used it to his advantage while idra didnt?

Didn't idra have the same advantage as Dimaga? If so, he's def the one to blame since he actually made the game

:O


the map file wasnt hacked. dimaga allegedly loaded a hack, similar to how one would load a map hack. this hack modifies the playing field so that the hacker's position has stacked mineral patches.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
July 28 2009 22:20 GMT
#64
On July 29 2009 07:17 crucifix wrote:
Oh shit, drama incoming !
selboN get Your ass at iccup sometimes !

I'm not current with TL IDs, who are you? D: <3 anyways
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
July 28 2009 22:20 GMT
#65
On July 29 2009 07:17 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 07:11 kNyTTyM wrote:
bwrepinfo says creator was idra.

UH OH! LETS JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS GUYS!

ESPORTS!
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ZeitgeistMovie
Profile Joined March 2009
144 Posts
July 28 2009 22:20 GMT
#66
On July 29 2009 07:17 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 07:11 kNyTTyM wrote:
bwrepinfo says creator was idra.

UH OH! LETS JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS GUYS!


Too late. About 10 people already did.
The Venus Project - A resource-based economy, like SC
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
July 28 2009 22:20 GMT
#67
We need Idra in here ASAP!
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
July 28 2009 22:21 GMT
#68
On July 29 2009 07:19 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 07:14 Senx wrote:
Sooo... Idra created a game using a hacked map, and Dimaga used it to his advantage while idra didnt?

Didn't idra have the same advantage as Dimaga? If so, he's def the one to blame since he actually made the game

:O


the map file wasnt hacked. dimaga allegedly loaded a hack, similar to how one would load a map hack. this hack modifies the playing field so that the hacker's position has stacked mineral patches.

Oh wow Dimaga is boned

BONED
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Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 28 2009 22:21 GMT
#69
On July 29 2009 07:20 deathgod6 wrote:
We need Idra in here ASAP!


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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 28 2009 22:21 GMT
#70
I think idra rigged the map so he could have some competition
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
July 28 2009 22:22 GMT
#71
On July 29 2009 07:21 StorrZerg wrote:
I think idra rigged the map so he could have some competition

+1 haha
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-28 22:41:47
July 28 2009 22:22 GMT
#72
Drama!!
✌
ZeitgeistMovie
Profile Joined March 2009
144 Posts
July 28 2009 22:23 GMT
#73
On July 29 2009 07:19 Etherone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 07:08 arb wrote:
We need a statement from idra(who visits) to tell us who hosted the map


Idra's going to be pissed when he sees this, and rightfully so.
it's pretty revolting to see this, one thing is combat ex cheating to get B- on iccup which is in it's self disgusting, but this... this is a pro euro player in a tournament with a prize pool, run by the community and against other professionals.

appalling to say the least, and congrats to dimaga he just lost any respect he had in the community and probably his spot on anymore community run tournaments.

I would also like a rep pack of all previous dimaga tournament wins made available to check if this is the first time, or if this has been done often.


Wow, you're already comfortable with saying all of this? And if you're wrong? Are you going to give him a public apology? Let it play out. See what the players have to say. Sheesh.
The Venus Project - A resource-based economy, like SC
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
July 28 2009 22:23 GMT
#74
On July 29 2009 07:19 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 07:14 Senx wrote:
Sooo... Idra created a game using a hacked map, and Dimaga used it to his advantage while idra didnt?

Didn't idra have the same advantage as Dimaga? If so, he's def the one to blame since he actually made the game

:O


the map file wasnt hacked. dimaga allegedly loaded a hack, similar to how one would load a map hack. this hack modifies the playing field so that the hacker's position has stacked mineral patches.

Wow really? I thought the hack was just a hack to let him choose which start position he is (so like, he always gets top position). That's super crazy if it's a hack which actually adds mineral fields to the map --a
EGMachine
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1643 Posts
July 28 2009 22:24 GMT
#75
rofl dimaga soooooo dirty!
I'm like, the coolest
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 28 2009 22:24 GMT
#76
Even if it was a simple mistake (I.E Idra accidentally having dl'd a rigged map from an ICCUP user and hosting it)... the fact that DIMAGA clearly KNEW the map was rigged in his favo (stacked minerals), and continued to play out the game, pretending like nothing was wrong is cause for concern.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 28 2009 22:24 GMT
#77
On July 29 2009 07:19 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 07:14 Senx wrote:
Sooo... Idra created a game using a hacked map, and Dimaga used it to his advantage while idra didnt?

Didn't idra have the same advantage as Dimaga? If so, he's def the one to blame since he actually made the game

:O


the map file wasnt hacked. dimaga allegedly loaded a hack, similar to how one would load a map hack. this hack modifies the playing field so that the hacker's position has stacked mineral patches.


So is there an easy way to spot this hack in game? or with a replay analyzer?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Glider
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1353 Posts
July 28 2009 22:25 GMT
#78
On July 29 2009 07:11 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 07:09 Naib wrote:
On July 29 2009 07:02 HnR)Insane wrote:
Game name was idra
I don't know if Dimaga is someone who hosts the game with opponent's name or if that means Idra hosted it.

This was played on melee btw, not UMS.


I have met quite a few people who host games with their opponent's nickname, and iirc they tend to be russian. So I guess dimaga isn't far off in that department.

As for the melee thing it's been circulating around for a while that there's a new type of hack which can alter maps - in melee / one vs one settings even - this way, with stacked minerals and fixed start locations.

It's a goddamn shame that someone who won a legit trip (!) to a WCG already would resort to this. Even with all that money on the line...


Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 07:09 Glider wrote:
I'm sure we'll find out what really happened soon enough, the host of the game will need to answer some questions.


It would appear not. It's a new hack, and DIMAGA was spotted removing drones when Idra scouted to hide his cheating.

All recent foreign tournaments should examine their replays for evidence of mineral stack hacking.


Wait.. there is a new hack that allows a player to join a legit map in 1v1/melee mode and change its mineral content???!! Jeez we need a fix for this ASAP if that's the case.

I just think we should really make sure what happened before crucifying anyone. Moving the drones from crystals doesn't seem to be 100% incriminating. sometimes I move my workers around early game to optimize eco since they tend to stuck when empty crystal is available. Of course I didn't see the rep, the drones could already be well saturated and moving them when scv is around in this case is extremely suspicious.

ps. From the shadow of the minerals, it seems quite a few crystals are stacked (shadow much darker)

Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
July 28 2009 22:25 GMT
#79
It's an old enough game i'd think it's possible, but somebody doing that on purpose is disgusting. Still, let's not jump to conclusions other than that we should be inconclusive.
craaaaack
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
479 Posts
July 28 2009 22:25 GMT
#80
LOL thats sick
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