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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
May 16 2009 23:49 GMT
#21
On May 17 2009 08:46 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2009 08:37 konadora wrote:
Maybe they should set the chat for 'To Allies'? If the players aren't allied to the referee, then it wouldn't be any more of a problem, will it?


Well then they cant see the gg

Aah.. right. Damn I'm dumb rofl
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sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
May 16 2009 23:51 GMT
#22
On May 17 2009 08:46 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2009 08:37 konadora wrote:
Maybe they should set the chat for 'To Allies'? If the players aren't allied to the referee, then it wouldn't be any more of a problem, will it?


Well then they cant see the gg

shift+enter? ~~
1000 at least.
klizzer
Profile Joined March 2008
517 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-16 23:55:48
May 16 2009 23:54 GMT
#23
To Allies by default would be actually quite a neat safety buffer. Well, it could be a bit harder to change settings if your monitor broke like Leta's, but... Edit: Oh right shift enter solves the deal xD

As for chatting in-game, I personally think it's not such a stupid idea. Taunting the opponent has always been one of the elements of warfare. Player's personalities could shine better perhaps, mindgames would be even more important.

Of course, this mental game could be solved otherwise. Perhaps more aggressive pre-game interviews would spice things up. But the way the Korean progamers answer questions wouldn't hint too much towards this.

Kespa chose the other way, they want to concentrate on the game itself, and I see their logic. Strict rules in this approach are essential, but they should be guided by common sense. Dogspa referees clearly lack common sense, hence the resultant situation. And I think most of us agree that this is going a bit too far...
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-17 00:04:06
May 17 2009 00:00 GMT
#24
On May 17 2009 07:45 mmdmmd wrote:
ok, I understand he accidentally pressed a.

But press enter after that? His mind is obviously somewhere else during that moment. IMO the ban is justified.


Use your brain mate. Which button is close to enter?

On topic: I pretty much agree with the people saying that these rules should be in place but the referees should enforce them only when it's clear it's done to disturb the other player.
ragnasaur
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States804 Posts
May 17 2009 00:00 GMT
#25
Chat ban is pretty stupid... especially when they type 1 or 2 letters like 'a' which could happen just out of apm spam or 'ppp' which is pretty much the same case.
funny or wacky ceremonies are pretty much encouraged by the winners, yet you get banned for typing?!
Does the other player have a say in the matter? Like could BackHo have allowed the game to continue?
anyways chatting makes the game more social, fun, and i would imagine gets the players and audience more excited/pumped. Its not like you can't talk shit to the guy at bat when you're a catcher in baseball. Adds more physiology to the game.
Especially w/ GoRush wtf hes old school gotta show respect...
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Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-17 00:17:20
May 17 2009 00:15 GMT
#26
On May 17 2009 07:45 mmdmmd wrote:
ok, I understand he accidentally pressed a.

But press enter after that? His mind is obviously somewhere else during that moment. IMO the ban is justified.

He pressed enter to close the chat window.
It was just an accident.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
May 17 2009 00:19 GMT
#27
i believe you should be allowed to chat as much as you want as long as it is not offensive to the other player. chatting = worse play so its not affecting the game. and losses should be based on the player gg-ing leaving the game. not the ACTUAL "gg" (i believe progamers have enough integrity to not sit around the game until their dead)
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Tyrant
Profile Joined September 2003
Korea (South)234 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-17 00:38:29
May 17 2009 00:29 GMT
#28
Allowing chat would create true rivalry between players which would increase the amount of spectators and effectively make the parent company more money. It's pretty dumb that they would be so restricted to the point you would DQ someone over a damn typo. Pretty dumb.
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
May 17 2009 00:36 GMT
#29
The ref was fucking dumb during that game imo
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-17 01:17:16
May 17 2009 00:40 GMT
#30
On May 17 2009 09:19 Mykill wrote:
i believe you should be allowed to chat as much as you want as long as it is not offensive to the other player. chatting = worse play so its not affecting the game. and losses should be based on the player gg-ing leaving the game. not the ACTUAL "gg" (i believe progamers have enough integrity to not sit around the game until their dead)

In a proleague finals not that long ago a toss hid pylons in PvP on Colloseum... I think it was Kahn vs someone...

Anyway, I think at this level of play even a little typing is very distracting and players who read the other players text will analyse it to think what it could mean... That's against the spirit of what KeSPA wants the game to be. I don't like that GoRush was disqualified, but a less severe penalty may still have been justified. It's hard to get creative, but maybe 10 second penalty box like they're not allowed to touch keyboard or mouse? That sounds retarded but with 1v1 what else can you do to make sure players don't pretend to be doing it be accident?

EDIT: I just watched the first GoRush game on HolyWorld... If GoRush was playing as badly as he was in the first game, I don't really feel much sympathy. His play was so gross.
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Crahptacular
Profile Joined December 2008
United States295 Posts
May 17 2009 00:41 GMT
#31
I think chat in-game should be allowed. The psychological aspect of the game would be even more important, and would give more depth to players--some players (probably people like FBH >.>) would probably like to use it a lot, and cheesy players can take advantage of it by implying they're up to something. Other players (I'm imagining Flash here ahaha) would probably just be silent and ignore anything the opponent says, playing their own game regardless of the chat. The only downside is the possibility for bad manner/offensive comments. It's really hard to think of a ruleset that would both allow for chatting and preventing offensive remarks, other than leaving it entirely up to refs, so it's understandable why the chat ban is in place. They really need to rethink their everything=DQ policy though. I don't agree that gg should be the only allowable surrender (korean gg and other things IMO are all ok as long as they're understood as equivalents) but if the punishment was simply a warning I wouldn't really mind their stringent limits.
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
May 17 2009 00:44 GMT
#32
On May 17 2009 09:36 DoX.) wrote:
The ref was fucking dumb during that game imo


That is politically incorrect! You have no reason to call the [sic] ref fucking dumb with no evidence beyond a truly valid and debatable decision he made that game. Ignorance and baseless attacks such as this inhibits the development of organized discussion and progress in e-sports.
Tyrant
Profile Joined September 2003
Korea (South)234 Posts
May 17 2009 00:48 GMT
#33
On May 17 2009 09:44 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2009 09:36 DoX.) wrote:
The ref was fucking dumb during that game imo


That is politically incorrect! You have no reason to call the [sic] ref fucking dumb with no evidence beyond a truly valid and debatable decision he made that game. Ignorance and baseless attacks such as this inhibits the development of organized discussion and progress in e-sports.


You're dumb and I have evidence! It's not the refs, it's the people who make the rules. The refs just enforce them.
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-17 00:50:10
May 17 2009 00:49 GMT
#34
Shit I'd be pissed if chatting was allowed. I'm so sick of idiots saying LOL, , or gg? when they're ahead in a game
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
May 17 2009 00:51 GMT
#35
^It was the ref's job to interpret what Gorush said and decide there and then if it warranted a DQ or regame or w/e. Kespa's rules already stated that it would be up to the ref to decide what would happen next.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44285 Posts
May 17 2009 00:52 GMT
#36
On May 17 2009 07:56 3 Lions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2009 07:45 mmdmmd wrote:
ok, I understand he accidentally pressed a.

But press enter after that? His mind is obviously somewhere else during that moment. IMO the ban is justified.

In game, when you type something, the only way to get rid of is enter. So yes, you could delete and then enter, but just enter is quicker and Gorush probably thought nothing was going to happen.

I personally use esc to close chat without saying it but whatever.
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MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
May 17 2009 00:52 GMT
#37
On May 17 2009 09:48 Tyrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2009 09:44 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
On May 17 2009 09:36 DoX.) wrote:
The ref was fucking dumb during that game imo


That is politically incorrect! You have no reason to call the [sic] ref fucking dumb with no evidence beyond a truly valid and debatable decision he made that game. Ignorance and baseless attacks such as this inhibits the development of organized discussion and progress in e-sports.


You're dumb and I have evidence! It's not the refs, it's the people who make the rules. The refs just enforce them.


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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
May 17 2009 01:23 GMT
#38
I don't think chatting should be allowed in official matches, but I don't think chatting should be an automatic DQ either...what happened to GoRush was stupid.
Hello
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-17 01:27:16
May 17 2009 01:27 GMT
#39
On May 17 2009 08:51 sushiman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2009 08:46 Kuja900 wrote:
On May 17 2009 08:37 konadora wrote:
Maybe they should set the chat for 'To Allies'? If the players aren't allied to the referee, then it wouldn't be any more of a problem, will it?


Well then they cant see the gg

shift+enter? ~~

Shift enter is all-chat I believe. I think the allies shortcut is alt enter?
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-17 01:30:09
May 17 2009 01:29 GMT
#40
On May 17 2009 07:55 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Booths should have button near by keyboard which gamers can press if need to pause game (giving electric shock to kespa referee).


This, and a button on the other side of the keyboard that signals concession. The first button would be bright blue and would say PAUSE and the other would be red and say GG. Chatting ingame could then be disallowed and would result in a warning
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