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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
December 12 2009 09:45 GMT
#121
Hi, I frequently 2v2 with my buddy who plays SC on win7. We use skype to talk to eachother during the matches. When his computer freezes, nothing responds but we can still talk over skype.

None of the windows commands respond ie: alt-tab, ctrl alt del
He had to force manual shut down every time.

One thing he noticed though is that when he turned Gadgets off, there haven't been any crashes.

I hope that information can help in some way.
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virusak
Profile Joined December 2009
Czech Republic344 Posts
December 12 2009 10:05 GMT
#122
Well don't know if anyone mentioned this but this is rather only a graphic DirectDraw issue, if you run skype or winamp on the background it will still play

On the Microsoft technet forum there is also a discussion about this, Squall_Leonhart69r seems to have get to the problems core


i have done further looking into this with multiple applications which make use of double buffering or triplebuffering (and vsync). The results are that these applications when run in DDraw fail to lock the primary buffer and result in Screen tearing and also the drawing of the windows startmenu orb and flashing taskbar buttons to display on top of the application in fullscreen. Had the primary framebuffer locked, this would NOT occur. That said. This is a windows 7 bug spanning both X32 and x64, and video drivers have no bearing what so ever. The same applications work fine on Vista. The only thing i can think of is these applications are displaying the behavior of an application manifested for Windows 7, rather then older versions and so are unable to lock the primary buffer. more info here http://www.codenamewindows.com/?p=58
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
December 12 2009 10:10 GMT
#123
On December 12 2009 19:05 virusak wrote:
Well don't know if anyone mentioned this but this is rather only a graphic DirectDraw issue, if you run skype or winamp on the background it will still play

On the Microsoft technet forum there is also a discussion about this, Squall_Leonhart69r seems to have get to the problems core

Show nested quote +

i have done further looking into this with multiple applications which make use of double buffering or triplebuffering (and vsync). The results are that these applications when run in DDraw fail to lock the primary buffer and result in Screen tearing and also the drawing of the windows startmenu orb and flashing taskbar buttons to display on top of the application in fullscreen. Had the primary framebuffer locked, this would NOT occur. That said. This is a windows 7 bug spanning both X32 and x64, and video drivers have no bearing what so ever. The same applications work fine on Vista. The only thing i can think of is these applications are displaying the behavior of an application manifested for Windows 7, rather then older versions and so are unable to lock the primary buffer. more info here http://www.codenamewindows.com/?p=58

definitely a no for me
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virusak
Profile Joined December 2009
Czech Republic344 Posts
December 12 2009 10:17 GMT
#124
On December 12 2009 19:10 CorsairHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 19:05 virusak wrote:
Well don't know if anyone mentioned this but this is rather only a graphic DirectDraw issue, if you run skype or winamp on the background it will still play

On the Microsoft technet forum there is also a discussion about this, Squall_Leonhart69r seems to have get to the problems core


i have done further looking into this with multiple applications which make use of double buffering or triplebuffering (and vsync). The results are that these applications when run in DDraw fail to lock the primary buffer and result in Screen tearing and also the drawing of the windows startmenu orb and flashing taskbar buttons to display on top of the application in fullscreen. Had the primary framebuffer locked, this would NOT occur. That said. This is a windows 7 bug spanning both X32 and x64, and video drivers have no bearing what so ever. The same applications work fine on Vista. The only thing i can think of is these applications are displaying the behavior of an application manifested for Windows 7, rather then older versions and so are unable to lock the primary buffer. more info here http://www.codenamewindows.com/?p=58

definitely a no for me

for those that still have issues after killing explorer and other programs, that should be mostly the case
Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
December 13 2009 14:54 GMT
#125
I can confirm the Winamp part. I have Winamp run in the background - bam SC freezes. I don't - game runs fine.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
December 14 2009 02:42 GMT
#126
From my testing, since BW crashes in fullscreen, you don't actually see the crash dialog since BW is still in the way. Thus, it appears your PC has completely frozen when in reality there might be a crash message in the background that you simply can't see or dismiss.

If you get freezes, I would suggest hitting enter / space a few times to dismiss any non-visible error dialogs, followed by alt+tab then enter / space and alt+tab twice followed by enter / space. BW should not be able to completely lock up your PC, it just seems that way since you're unable to interact with anything else.
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GW.Methos
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States249 Posts
December 14 2009 02:49 GMT
#127
i had a problem like this in vista, but one day it just got fixed somehow.
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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
December 14 2009 03:27 GMT
#128
In response to the enter/space theory, when it crashed on my friend, the caps lock/num lock keys didn't respond at all (didn't light on/off). He has also tried spamming a lot of keys and key combinations with no response.
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KCrazy
Profile Joined August 2009
United States278 Posts
December 14 2009 04:08 GMT
#129
not sure if this helps but my experience with this whole windows 7 crash is that when i have less things running in the background, the game crashes less frequently. Also when i had an excessive amount of things running in the background (sidebar, winamp, aim, a few things of photoshop etc...) the game usually crashes within minutes. In both circumstances, it felt as though the game would crash at random points and not necessarily at specific timings.
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inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-14 16:52:29
December 14 2009 16:51 GMT
#130
I think I found a fix, I played all of yesterday with no problems... these are all the things I did, I'm not sure if one or a combination of them was what helped but here goes:

1.Close winamp.
2.Go into NVIDIA control panel and set Starcraft to use only one GPU(I'm using a gtx 295 so if you have a single GPU gfxcard this one won't be necessary)
3.Turn vertical sync off for starcraft in NVIDIA control panel.(doubt this one matters)
4.Go to your Starcraft directory, right click on starcraft.exe, properties, compatibility, check mark all boxes except disable desktop comp and disable display scaling.

5.Open notepad.

copy/paste:

cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 D:\"SC"\"Launcher"\"Launcher.exe"
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
cd C:\SC\StarCraft\
rem cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 D:\"SC"\"StarCraft.exe"
rem Wait for the game to quit, press Enter to continue
pause
start explorer.exe
exit

Replace those paths with what you have for said files, save as .bat file.
Now when you wish to play start SC by clicking the file you created, it kills explorer until you stop playing. You can also create a shortcut of the file and make it look like SC so it looks prettier.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm about to go play SC all day so if I crash I'll edit this post with a something like 'fuck my life', if this is still here then it's working.

If you need help with any of the steps please post the question here and you might want to pm me.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
December 14 2009 17:36 GMT
#131
On May 17 2009 02:39 cava wrote:
I hope windows 7 is a success. I always thought Vista got a bad rap for no reason. After serice pack 1 vista became solid as a rock. I build this computer in January with windows vista x64 and it has yet to crash on me, or fail to be able to run a program. If windows 7 is an improvement it will be an awesome OS.


Very true, I know someone who's had Vista for 2 years? and he's never had a single problem. Win7 the only problem I see is that when you try to move your files they get deleted.

Either way I stick with XP. It's reliable and it makes a funny face if you look at it sideways.
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lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
December 16 2009 15:51 GMT
#132
I am yet another victim of the exact same problem. Is there no simple solution still?
Everyone needs a nemesis.
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
December 16 2009 16:14 GMT
#133
haha this sucks, i was thinking of getting windows 7, but if it doesn't work with BW, i might reconsider lol
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lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
December 16 2009 16:28 GMT
#134
It does not crash quite that often but it is annoying when it does.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
December 16 2009 17:45 GMT
#135
Win7 users try playing BW in window mode.
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mizore
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
40 Posts
December 17 2009 20:49 GMT
#136
I've tried running every fix listed here but I still can not get BroodWar to work. My problem sounds a bit different than the ones that are listed here though.

Everytime I click on multiplayer > expansion, BroodWar crashes and gives me this error :

The instruction at 0x004dd66e referenced memory at 0x00000018. The memory could not be written. Click on OK to terminate the program.

Any help in getting this to work would be appreciated... I don't mind somebody remotely accessing my computer to get it to work either.
Zelo
Profile Joined September 2009
United States10 Posts
December 17 2009 21:18 GMT
#137
I can confirm that closing winamp fixed the freezing for me and closing explorer.exe fixes the color issue.
mizore
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
40 Posts
December 19 2009 14:16 GMT
#138
On December 18 2009 05:49 mizore wrote:
I've tried running every fix listed here but I still can not get BroodWar to work. My problem sounds a bit different than the ones that are listed here though.

Everytime I click on multiplayer > expansion, BroodWar crashes and gives me this error :

The instruction at 0x004dd66e referenced memory at 0x00000018. The memory could not be written. Click on OK to terminate the program.

Any help in getting this to work would be appreciated... I don't mind somebody remotely accessing my computer to get it to work either.


Disregard this, I found out my problem.
ShroomyD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia245 Posts
December 19 2009 14:22 GMT
#139
On December 19 2009 23:16 mizore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2009 05:49 mizore wrote:
I've tried running every fix listed here but I still can not get BroodWar to work. My problem sounds a bit different than the ones that are listed here though.

Everytime I click on multiplayer > expansion, BroodWar crashes and gives me this error :

The instruction at 0x004dd66e referenced memory at 0x00000018. The memory could not be written. Click on OK to terminate the program.

Any help in getting this to work would be appreciated... I don't mind somebody remotely accessing my computer to get it to work either.


Disregard this, I found out my problem.

Mind sharing the solution? ^^;;;
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georgir
Profile Joined May 2009
Bulgaria253 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-19 15:53:10
December 19 2009 15:46 GMT
#140
im using windows 7, [EDIT: bugger me, im on vista on that particular comp, still havent even tried SC on my win 7 comps. sorry i got confused... this post is now completely irrelevant, but i'll leave it as it still gives an idea that you could try] and while i did have the messed up colors quite a lot, it's got very rare these days, if not even completely fine - i guess some windows update fixed it, or its just random luck on my part.

i think i may have 'run as administrator' checked in my launcher shortcut, but i am not 100% sure. i know i don't use any other compatibility settings though - tried a few and didnt find any of them helped.

about the crashing - i've had that too. in my case, it would often crash at the end of a game
i re-downloaded it from my bnet profile thinking my first dl was corrupt, uninstalled and reinstalled it several times etc...
but i think what actually helped was that i used 'run as administrator' from the rightclick menu on the first run to update it properly, and it got ok.
if you're still having problems, you could also try to do the update with a manually downloaded patch instead of by connecting to bnet, maybe again with the 'run as administrator' trick.
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