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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
April 10 2009 04:00 GMT
#21
I already miss winners league
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Pioneer
Profile Joined December 2008
994 Posts
April 10 2009 04:29 GMT
#22
On April 10 2009 12:57 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2009 11:47 Pioneer wrote:
On April 10 2009 11:44 konadora wrote:
On April 10 2009 11:38 Pioneer wrote:
I honestly can't see how Protoss could stop a zergs early rush. FE is out of the question I think since you wouldn't be able to get cannons up in time. I guess you could do something like 7 pylon 7 gate at the assims but that puts you behind economically vs a 9 pool and it still leaves you assims vulnerable. I think it'd be a bit more balanced if they either pulled the assims back some toward the natural so an FE with probe block would be possible and made the choke that goes into the main possible for a 1 depot/barracks wall for terran. I think if there are ever any PvTs here it's going to end up being exactly like troy. 2 gate goon, kill assims then expo/defend drops.

@NoveTheFeared

that's not the biggest issue because the destination nat mins and medusa main mineral placements are similar to this and it's managable.


A rectangular piece of land below and on top of the four assimilators cannot be built on, so basically even if you do go 7 pylon 7 gate, you won't be able to wall off completely. I went BBS at the assimilators, and still couldn't wall.

I didn't mean walling with it. You would use the the zealot to block the space between the assim with a probe or 2.

similar to how you would go 1 gate tech on troy pvz.

And watch JulyZerg drone-drill you lol

lol i'm sure after that game best and every other pro protoss player played a lot more careful .

anyway, that's the only option I can see unless there is some faster version of FE that can stop a zergling rush that I don't know about.
crazie-penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States1253 Posts
April 10 2009 04:36 GMT
#23
they'll balance it out by giving the mains 15 mineral patches and two gases...which defeats the purpose of the map.... xD
SkepTicAL
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada872 Posts
April 10 2009 04:40 GMT
#24
On April 10 2009 12:58 Kuja900 wrote:
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On April 10 2009 12:53 Ozarugold wrote:
I hate zerg favored maps. The victories always feel so cheap...


Yeah as zerg players we get used to always being cheated and having to work twice as hard for everything, this is just not right lol.

Oh please, play terran at a high level then tell me that sentence again.
AeriALsLighT @AerialsLight
FaZ-
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States187 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-10 05:48:21
April 10 2009 05:16 GMT
#25
It looks to me like you could put a supply depot or pylon down next to the assimilator closest (vertically) to your natural and make an awesome funnel for any zerglings coming in. Even a Terran can stand up to a rush/drone drill at that point.

Obviously, I'd have to get a better look at the map to know for sure. If you guys have played on it why isn't it uploaded somewhere yet!? =o


Just downloaded and unlocked it. It's unbuildable terrain next to the assimilators. =/ That's going to be really rough.
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-10 06:43:10
April 10 2009 06:42 GMT
#26
Damn, koreans are going to play boring standard games till die? :-\
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
April 10 2009 12:24 GMT
#27
On April 10 2009 11:42 Avidkeystamper wrote:
IdrA said it was terran favored in TvZ. Guess he was wrong, unfortunately.
But it should balance out, since island maps are not in the zergs favor.

it was, before they realized they could kill their own assims to block 8 rax->vult
after that it all went down the shitter
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
April 10 2009 12:39 GMT
#28
I can't comment on balance but the map is actually incredibly technical and a huge improvement from its first incarnation when destructible neutral buildings was first introduced (to be known as the Casy era henceforth)

I think it would be a huge shame not to see a bunch of different match ups on this map. And that's why I hate standard proleague style over WL. It's always the same MU every fucking game after the first 2 weeks
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-10 12:43:57
April 10 2009 12:43 GMT
#29
On April 10 2009 21:39 floor exercise wrote:
And that's why I hate standard proleague style over WL. It's always the same MU every fucking game after the first 2 weeks

QFT.

Missing Winner's League ;___;
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infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
April 10 2009 12:53 GMT
#30
Yeah they are just playing the safest possible without any experimentation it seems which is a shame.
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
April 10 2009 13:08 GMT
#31
On April 10 2009 11:42 Avidkeystamper wrote:
IdrA said it was terran favored in TvZ. Guess he was wrong, unfortunately.
But it should balance out, since island maps are not in the zergs favor.


I'd imagine it's T>Z>P>T, if the protoss takes out the assimilators I don't see how terran can ever successfully push
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
April 10 2009 13:17 GMT
#32
On April 10 2009 22:08 Sunyveil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2009 11:42 Avidkeystamper wrote:
IdrA said it was terran favored in TvZ. Guess he was wrong, unfortunately.
But it should balance out, since island maps are not in the zergs favor.


I'd imagine it's T>Z>P>T, if the protoss takes out the assimilators I don't see how terran can ever successfully push

Lol, remember Troy?

Goons take out assim, P mass expands, Carriers.

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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
April 10 2009 14:57 GMT
#33
On April 10 2009 22:17 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2009 22:08 Sunyveil wrote:
On April 10 2009 11:42 Avidkeystamper wrote:
IdrA said it was terran favored in TvZ. Guess he was wrong, unfortunately.
But it should balance out, since island maps are not in the zergs favor.


I'd imagine it's T>Z>P>T, if the protoss takes out the assimilators I don't see how terran can ever successfully push

Lol, remember Troy?

Goons take out assim, P mass expands, Carriers.

ROCK TOO STRONG

AHAHAHA LOL
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funnybananaman
Profile Joined April 2009
United States830 Posts
May 19 2009 00:23 GMT
#34
i wish there were some way to force team to put out some different races on this map. i know zerg would probably win vs terran or protoss, but what about a pvt? or pvp or tvt? i think those would be very interesting to watch
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
May 19 2009 00:27 GMT
#35
On May 19 2009 09:23 funnybananaman94 wrote:
i wish there were some way to force team to put out some different races on this map. i know zerg would probably win vs terran or protoss, but what about a pvt? or pvp or tvt? i think those would be very interesting to watch

lol funny.
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wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
May 19 2009 00:30 GMT
#36
On April 10 2009 09:41 konadora wrote:
Decided to translate this since it proved to be an insightful and interesting read.

Is Battle Royal bound for doom? I played a few TvPs and TvZ's on this map, very fun map to play, but very tough. Had to adjust builds several times =.="

Yes it is going to be pulled after this round (or at least seriously remade)
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
May 19 2009 01:10 GMT
#37
But, but, but... terrans now have a victory on it!
I wish the OSL maps were Battle Royal, Holy World and Tears of the moon :'(

(Jaedong fan)
perfecting the art of five pool forever
fast ball player
Profile Joined December 2008
206 Posts
May 19 2009 03:50 GMT
#38
What they should do is put neutral turrets, like the neutral sunkens in Colo2, except that attack. Put them around the mains so light air is less powerful mid game and so OLs cannot scout. Problem solved.
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Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
May 19 2009 04:28 GMT
#39
tempest played really well on BR, i'm surprised they didnt send him out again as he almost won his game.
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ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
May 19 2009 04:30 GMT
#40
On May 19 2009 12:50 fast ball player wrote:
What they should do is put neutral turrets, like the neutral sunkens in Colo2, except that attack. Put them around the mains so light air is less powerful mid game and so OLs cannot scout. Problem solved.

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It's already balance actually. Tosses should just need to expand on Tempest's play and Terrans should do likewise with Light's
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