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joohyunee
Korea (South)1087 Posts
** For some reason, fomos.kr isn't showing the exact URL (only fomos.kr comes out on the URL in IE right now) The original article is under the "issue" portion of fomos.**
Lecaf Oz Changes Name to Hwaseung Progame Team
From January 31st, Lecaf Oz is changing its name to Hwaseung Oz.
'Lecaf Oz' which was created by sponsoring the "Plus" gameteam back in March of 2006. Since then, it has become a reknowned game team by winning the Shinhan Bank Proleague (2nd half) in 2007 and the Grand Finals.
The name change occured because Lecaf wanted to increase its advertisement capacity and territory of influence. The idea is to improve Hwaseung image brand image in products from not only Lecaf but K Swiss, Murrel (not sure of the exact spelling) as well.
Hwaseung Inc.'s representative, Lee Gye Joo, has said "Through this name change, the Oz gameteam will become an even greater marketing communication channel for Hwaseung instead of Lecaf", and "I believe that the members of the team will be able to have more pride and loyalty to the team" and revealed the reason for the name change.
On the other hand, Hwaseung will have various fan events in light of the change in team name. First, on January 13st (Sat), they will give out custom-made cheering instruments for the fans that come to the Hero Center in Moon-Rae Dong. On the gameteam home page, fans will be able to interact with new sections, such as "Dart game", "How I became a Hwaseung Fan", and "Dinner with the players" to provide events to celebrate the name change.
Original Korean Article:
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르까프 오즈가 1월 31일부터 ‘화승 오즈’로 승격된다.
지난 2006년 3월, Plus 게임단을 인수, 창단된 ‘르까프 오즈’는 신한은행 프로리그 2007 후기리그와 통합챔피언전에서 우승을 차지하며 명실상부한 명문 게임단으로 자리매김했다.
이번 팀명 변경은 르까프 브랜드 홍보에서 기업 브랜드 홍보로 영역을 확대한 것으로 르까프를 비롯해 K•SWISS, 머렐 등 화승의 다양한 브랜드 이미지 강화를 위한 것으로 알려졌다.
㈜화승의 이계주 대표는 “이번 명칭 변경으로 오즈 게임단은 르까프가 아닌 화승의 e스포츠 통한 10/20세대 마케팅 커뮤니케이션 채널로 확대 활용할 수 있을 것으로 예상된다”며 “이번 팀명 변경으로 소속 선수들의 자부심과 애사심을 더욱 높일 수 있을 것”이라고 팀명 변경에 대해 밝혔다.
한편 ㈜화승은 이번 게임단 팀명 변경을 기념해 다양한 팬 이벤트를 진행할 계획이다. 먼저 오는 1월 31일(토) 문래동 히어로센터에 오시는 팬들에게는 특별 제작된 응원용 머플러를 제공하며, 게임단 홈페이지에서는 팬들은 ‘다트 게임’, ‘화승 팬이 된 사연 올리기’, ‘선수들과 저녁식사’ 등 다양한 이벤트가 진행될 예정이다.
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wht?
but lecaf just sounds natural.... w/e helps them i guess
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51398 Posts
I'm too used to Lecaf, but I guess the head poncho gets to make the decisions in the end.
화승 회이팅!
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lol.... i guess this is good?...
stil gonna call it lecaf though  not quite sure what the Hwangsomthing... is.
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gonna take a little while to get used to it. I was used to calling the team just lecaf 
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51398 Posts
On January 30 2009 05:48 liger13 wrote:lol.... i guess this is good?... stil gonna call it lecaf though not quite sure what the Hwangsomthing... is.
Hwaesung is the company that owns Lecaf in Korea, as well as the others mentioned in the article.
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ugh -_- does hwaseung mean something in korean ?
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I really don't like this name =/
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whatever they gotta do to survive is fine with me, thanks for keeping us up to date joohyunee
i have thought of late how hard it might be for SC progaming teams to survive what with south korea's economy getting trashed so hard as of late...
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On January 30 2009 05:52 Avidkeystamper wrote:
I really don't like this name =/
ya =\
but i guess it's a positive thing when the umbrella company wants in on the good publicity.
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Hungary11270 Posts
What did the name Lecaf signify anyway?
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United States12607 Posts
On January 30 2009 05:56 a-game wrote:
whatever they gotta do to survive is fine with me, thanks for keeping us up to date joohyunee
i have thought of late how hard it might be for SC progaming teams to survive what with south korea's economy getting trashed so hard as of late...
+1, I am just happy that it looks like Hwaseung still values their pro-team sponsorship as an advertising tool. Oz's future looks pretty secure, all things considered.
I just read in the Economist that South Korea's economy shrunk by over 5% in 4Q2008...that's ridiculous. Hang tight, Korea!
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I doubt anyone not fluent in korean would be able to pronounce the new name correctly.
They'll probably pronounce it Hway-sung, just like how they butcher Hwasin's ID.
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On January 30 2009 05:50 GTR-2-Go wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 05:48 liger13 wrote:lol.... i guess this is good?... stil gonna call it lecaf though not quite sure what the Hwangsomthing... is. Hwaesung is the company that owns Lecaf in Korea, as well as the others mentioned in the article.
ahh, i guess it makes a little more sense...
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United States12607 Posts
On January 30 2009 06:05 jinwoooooooo wrote:
I doubt anyone not fluent in korean would be able to pronounce the new name correctly.
They'll probably pronounce it Hway-sung, just like how they butcher Hwasin's ID.
Can you please let me know how to correctly pronounce both of these (Hwaseung, Hwasin)?
Edit: and note that you probably could have devoted your post to remedying these pronunciation problems, rather than just berating people for them.
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
On January 30 2009 06:03 Aesop wrote:
What did the name Lecaf signify anyway?
Lecaf is a Korean sportswear company. They make pretty good quality sportswear, and probably rank among the top few Korean sportswear brands.
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damnit. Lecaf was one of the easier names to say, now, like Woonjing, we will have no idea how to pronounce/spell/shorten down, a teams name. hurrah...
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United States12607 Posts
On January 30 2009 06:13 Dazed_Spy wrote:
damnit. Lecaf was one of the easier names to say, now, like Woonjing, we will have no idea how to pronounce/spell/shorten down, a teams name. hurrah...
....or you could just say "the Stars" or "Oz"...
Also, it's Woongjin. Come on, man. And people have been shortening it "WJ" for months now.
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Huh. Well I guess we can still call it Oz.
On a sidenote, I wonder what Hwaseung actually means, because in Chinese it means peanut :p
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Improve advertisement by changing a pretty good name to one that nobody can spell or pronounce?
Aight whateva
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On January 30 2009 06:16 jwd241224 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 06:13 Dazed_Spy wrote:
damnit. Lecaf was one of the easier names to say, now, like Woonjing, we will have no idea how to pronounce/spell/shorten down, a teams name. hurrah... ....or you could just say "the Stars" or "Oz"... Also, it's Woongjin. Come on, man. And people have been shortening it "WJ" for months now. stars and oz...yeah thats not incredibly gay, am I right? I havent seen anyone callin them WJ anyways.
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On January 30 2009 07:40 Bosu wrote:
Improve advertisement by changing a pretty good name to one that nobody can spell or pronounce ?
Aight whateva
i'm fairly sure that koreans can spell and pronouce it pretty well
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United States12607 Posts
On January 30 2009 07:40 Bosu wrote:
Improve advertisement by changing a pretty good name to one that nobody can spell or pronounce?
Aight whateva
Congratulations on your contribution to this thread's trove of unbelievably dumb posts
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How would you go about pronouncing Hwaseung?
Hway-sung?
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United States12607 Posts
On January 30 2009 07:55 Braintricks wrote:
How would you go about pronouncing Hwaseung?
Hway-sung?
My guess is "Hwah-sung". Can any Koreans enlighten us?
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On January 30 2009 07:55 Braintricks wrote:
How would you go about pronouncing Hwaseung?
Hway-sung?
ho-eh <--(say these two parts fast in one syllable) sung
hweh sung
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On January 30 2009 07:40 Bosu wrote:
Improve advertisement by changing a pretty good name to one that nobody can spell or pronounce?
Aight whateva
Holy fuck...
On January 30 2009 06:05 jinwoooooooo wrote:
I doubt anyone not fluent in korean would be able to pronounce the new name correctly.
They'll probably pronounce it Hway-sung, just like how they butcher Hwasin's ID.
Wow great post! instaed of clarifying how both are pronounced you just add to the mystery
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Osaka27136 Posts
Nice thread, moved to news.
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United States13896 Posts
So if I understand this correctly, Hwaseung is the larger corporation that owns Lecaf, and they want to get the most bang for their buck by having their team promote the whole brand, not just Lecaf?
They need to get a catchier name though. Hwaseung Progame Team doesn't have any ring to it. I could get used to it if they just call themselves Hwaseung OZ.
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hmm. doensnt make much of a differnece to me. as long as  Jaedong and  BackHo dont start screwing up because of this then im fine.
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Name sucks but logo's cool
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thedeadhaji
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On January 30 2009 06:05 jwd241224 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 05:56 a-game wrote:
whatever they gotta do to survive is fine with me, thanks for keeping us up to date joohyunee
i have thought of late how hard it might be for SC progaming teams to survive what with south korea's economy getting trashed so hard as of late... +1, I am just happy that it looks like Hwaseung still values their pro-team sponsorship as an advertising tool. Oz's future looks pretty secure, all things considered. I just read in the Economist that South Korea's economy shrunk by over 5% in 4Q2008...that's ridiculous. Hang tight, Korea!
T_T
must be their exports (electronics, cars)
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Oh damn i liked the sound of lecaf:O
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On January 30 2009 07:58 SaveYourSavior wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 07:55 Braintricks wrote:
How would you go about pronouncing Hwaseung?
Hway-sung? ho-eh <--(say these two parts fast in one syllable) sung hweh sung
its actually Hwah-Sung (화승)
"sung" isnt quite right either but its as close as you can get w/ English.
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I like lecaf better
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
hwaseung is like "peanut" in half mandarin half cantonese
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On January 30 2009 08:29 PocketX wrote:
Name sucks but logo's cool
Yeah I agree... lecaf was sooo much better.
just gonna call them Oz from now on :\
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On January 30 2009 06:08 jwd241224 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 06:05 jinwoooooooo wrote:
I doubt anyone not fluent in korean would be able to pronounce the new name correctly.
They'll probably pronounce it Hway-sung, just like how they butcher Hwasin's ID. Can you please let me know how to correctly pronounce both of these (Hwaseung, Hwasin)? Edit: and note that you probably could have devoted your post to remedying these pronunciation problems, rather than just berating people for them.
hwasin is pronounced 'hwah-shin'
hwaseung is pronounced 'hwah-sung' (like someone already mentioned, 'sung' isn't quite accurate but english doesn't have a better way of representing the actual sound)
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United States3824 Posts
Could someone write that out phonetically or like in IPA or something, because I'm at a loss for how to pronounce the name
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On January 30 2009 09:21 cgrinker wrote:
Could someone write that out phonetically or like in IPA or something, because I'm at a loss for how to pronounce the name
/facepalm
Man, the old name sounder cooler but I guess business is business,
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It's pronounced how it's spelled...just say it a couple of times...
"Hwa-seung"
or...
"Hua" then "seung"...soft s.
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This'll be easy to remember, you'll all get used to it.
The transition from Hanbit Stars to Woongjin Stars took a day to remember.
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so to pronounce seung
you say something like
straight
except stop before the t
and say ng instead
that was probably unhelpful but okay
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I pronounce it Woon-Jin, anybody else?
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lol i think k swiss sounds better than lecaf they shoulda became K swiss instead of hwaseung
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CA10825 Posts
On January 30 2009 09:58 [AhunGrY]MelOn wrote:
so to pronounce seung
you say something like
straight
except stop before the t
and say ng instead
that was probably unhelpful but okay
lol wtf is this haha
HWAH (not HWAY) think of it as like hoo-ah but together really quickly so it's huah -> hwa
SEUNG sort of like "sung" but its like sih-ung but together quickly, so seung.
...sort of.
lol.
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Think lecaf sounded better, but I guess I can start calling them hoz.
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Russian Federation1381 Posts
wut. Just name it JAEEEDOOOONG Pro-Game Team and it's be alright.
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On January 30 2009 10:04 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 09:58 [AhunGrY]MelOn wrote:
so to pronounce seung
you say something like
straight
except stop before the t
and say ng instead
that was probably unhelpful but okay lol wtf is this haha HWAH (not HWAY) think of it as like hoo-ah but together really quickly so it's huah -> hwa SEUNG sort of like "sung" but its like sih-ung but together quickly, so seung. ...sort of. lol.
lol it makes sense to me <.<
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On January 30 2009 10:04 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 09:58 [AhunGrY]MelOn wrote:
so to pronounce seung
you say something like
straight
except stop before the t
and say ng instead
that was probably unhelpful but okay lol wtf is this haha HWAH (not HWAY) think of it as like hoo-ah but together really quickly so it's huah -> hwa SEUNG sort of like "sung" but its like sih-ung but together quickly, so seung. ...sort of. lol.
Everyone read this...he explained the second syllable very well. I never thought of putting it that way...haha.
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On January 30 2009 10:04 LosingID8 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 09:58 [AhunGrY]MelOn wrote:
so to pronounce seung
you say something like
straight
except stop before the t
and say ng instead
that was probably unhelpful but okay lol wtf is this haha HWAH (not HWAY) think of it as like hoo-ah but together really quickly so it's huah -> hwa SEUNG sort of like "sung" but its like sih-ung but together quickly, so seung. ...sort of. lol.
HAHAHA That's pretty good.
I was gonna say its like Tsung (the mortal kombat character) but replace the "u" w/ an "o"
In either case, will you guys be pronoucing this aloud often?? 
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On January 30 2009 10:09 Magic84 wrote:
wut. Just name it JAEEEDOOOONG Pro-Game Team and it's be alright.
so goddamn true
JAEDONG OZ ftw
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God why would Lecaf change there name to that? It is such a bad name. Lecaf at least was pronounceable. Hwaseung just seems like gibberish to me...
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United States12607 Posts
hall of fame
On January 30 2009 06:05 jinwoooooooo wrote:
I doubt anyone not fluent in korean would be able to pronounce the new name correctly.
They'll probably pronounce it Hway-sung, just like how they butcher Hwasin's ID.
On January 30 2009 06:13 Dazed_Spy wrote:
damnit. Lecaf was one of the easier names to say, now, like Woonjing, we will have no idea how to pronounce/spell/shorten down, a teams name. hurrah...
On January 30 2009 07:40 Bosu wrote:
Improve advertisement by changing a pretty good name to one that nobody can spell or pronounce?
Aight whateva
On January 30 2009 11:26 Dgtl wrote:
God why would Lecaf change there name to that? It is such a bad name. Lecaf at least was pronounceable. Hwaseung just seems like gibberish to me...
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
So much complaining about the new name's pronunciation.
Just keep calling it Lecaf.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On January 30 2009 10:04 sushiman wrote:
Think lecaf sounded better, but I guess I can start calling them hoz.
There's an upside to everything!
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Lecaf definately sounded better, I think changing the name to a longer Korean name limits the global potential of advertisement (English names in Korea usually easier to remember and seems to alienate less people surprisingly, and Korean companies with English names can attract more international customers since its easier for them to say&remember)
just keep calling it Oz
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On January 30 2009 11:52 AzureEye wrote:
Lecaf definately sounded better, I think changing the name to a longer Korean name limits the global potential of advertisement (English names in Korea usually easier to remember and seems to alienate less people surprisingly, and Korean companies with English names can attract more international customers since its easier for them to say&remember)
just keep calling it Oz
Yeah it makes sense on the language change from a Korean perspective, but isn't Lecaf a french word?
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
netizens return!
Netizen
omg
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lollllllllllllllllllllllll
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kekkekekekekekekekekekekekeke Hwaseung kekekekek
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what the fuck is this
Netizen
goddamn holidays make the news section of this website totally shitty. If it wasn't for the fast quality news your site would suck ass.
Netizen
ah, so corny lol
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HWASEUNG HWASEUNG HWASUNG HWASUNG HWASEUNG HWASEUNG HWASUNG HWASUNG HWASEUNG HWASEUNG HWASUNG HWASUNG HWASEUNG HWASEUNG HWASUNG HWASUNG HWASEUNG HWASEUNG HWASUNG HWASUNG HWASEUNG HWASEUNG HWASUNG HWASUNG
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................................ How can you suck more than Woongjin........................
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if you say it really fast, it sounds like a bad word
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no it doesn't you retard
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omg its so natural
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fuck hwaseung, we're calling it oz
Netizen
They should've changed Oz too. Hwaseung Oz? Wtf.
Netizen
starcraft is dying anyways, better this way.
Netizen
Hwaseung Oz sounds so... Stupid. Good job for Lecaf Oz to get the head brand, but seriously they should change Oz too. Hwaseung Phoenix or some shit.
Netizen
Hwaseung Shoes plz
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gg
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man lecaf was so much better
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lol wtfff
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man its going to be so awkward. We're so used to Lecaf that this will be so weird.
Netizen
shitsux kekekekekekekkekekekekkekkekkekkekkekek
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hwaseung is so gay
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stfu my name is hwaseung
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go to school hwaseung
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This is a good change, now Koreans will stop speaking broken retarded english and learn to speak proper korean for a change.
Netizen
LOL it feels so weird seeing hwaseung at #1 rank of proleague
Netizen
yeah wtff lol
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United States12607 Posts
hahaha, MrHoon and his band of Korean netizens swoop in to save the thread!
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Now can Oz sell their merchandise since they changed their name? :D
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ahahahaha
I can't breath
mr hoon this is all your fault
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Gaaah Lecaf was so much better because i could actually say it... I can't even say Hwaseung im just gonna have to say jaedongs team from now on.
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United States13896 Posts
On January 30 2009 11:57 MrHoon wrote:
Netizen
if you say it really fast, it sounds like a bad word
Netizen
no it doesn't you retard
....
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hwaseung is so gay
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stfu my name is hwaseung
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go to school hwaseung
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This is a good change, now Koreans will stop speaking broken retarded english and learn to speak proper korean for a change.
holy shit LOL. MrHoon you're the man
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On January 30 2009 08:00 kefkalives wrote:
Wow great post! instaed of clarifying how both are pronounced you just add to the mystery
To be honest, you guys aren't being fair. Hwaseung is a romanized word--it's kinda difficult to explain how to pronounce it by using ANOTHER romanized word.
But i'll try my best:
Hwaseung: Hwah (add an H sound in front of a wah sound like that in water)
-seung (gosh this one's hard. Just listen to korean commentators say the word starcraft (they pronounce it seu-tah-keu-. . .), take the 'seu' sound before the 'tah' sound, and attach an 'ng' to the end of it, ending with, tada, seung)
Hwasin: Hwah (same as above)
-shin (just listen to a commentator say the name of the map with the word shin/sin in front of it (there are plenty--shin baekdu daegan(peaks of baekdu), sin chupung-ryeong, just to name a few at the top of my head))
Hope that was clear enough to understand
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On January 30 2009 11:57 MrHoon wrote:+ Show Spoiler +netizens return!
Netizen
omg
Netizen
lollllllllllllllllllllllll
Netizen
kekkekekekekekekekekekekekeke Hwaseung kekekekek
Netizen
what the fuck is this
Netizen
goddamn holidays make the news section of this website totally shitty. If it wasn't for the fast quality news your site would suck ass.
Netizen
ah, so corny lol
Netizen
HWASEUNG HWASEUNG HWASUNG HWASUNG HWASEUNG HWASEUNG HWASUNG HWASUNG HWASEUNG HWASEUNG HWASUNG HWASUNG HWASEUNG HWASEUNG HWASUNG HWASUNG HWASEUNG HWASEUNG HWASUNG HWASUNG HWASEUNG HWASEUNG HWASUNG HWASUNG
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................................ How can you suck more than Woongjin........................
Netizen
if you say it really fast, it sounds like a bad word
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no it doesn't you retard
Netizen
omg its so natural
Netizen
fuck hwaseung, we're calling it oz
Netizen
They should've changed Oz too. Hwaseung Oz? Wtf.
Netizen
starcraft is dying anyways, better this way.
Netizen
Hwaseung Oz sounds so... Stupid. Good job for Lecaf Oz to get the head brand, but seriously they should change Oz too. Hwaseung Phoenix or some shit.
Netizen
Hwaseung Shoes plz
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gg
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man lecaf was so much better
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lol wtfff
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man its going to be so awkward. We're so used to Lecaf that this will be so weird.
Netizen
shitsux kekekekekekekkekekekekkekkekkekkekkekek
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hwaseung is so gay
Netizen
stfu my name is hwaseung
Netizen
go to school hwaseung
Netizen
This is a good change, now Koreans will stop speaking broken retarded english and learn to speak proper korean for a change.
Netizen
LOL it feels so weird seeing hwaseung at #1 rank of proleague
Netizen
yeah wtff lol
These are translated right Mr. Hoon? Cause i can totally see how these comments were made in korean...Damn kids...
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I was going to make the joke about just calling the team Jaedong Oz, but I came two pages too late.
Anyway, go team HPT .
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I'm not a Lecaf fan so it doesn't matter to me much, but this will probably confuse/frustrate me for the next few weeks.
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On January 30 2009 05:44 GTR-2-Go wrote:
I'm too used to Lecaf, but I guess the head poncho gets to make the decisions in the end.
화승 회이팅!
Head poncho, I love it! Hahaha
(The English idiom is head honcho, but your version is hilarious and wonderful, so feel free to keep using it )
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They will always be Lecaf in my heart. I have trouble spelling Woongjin already.
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How do you pronouncd 'Hwaesung'? Way-sung?
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hwa from "hwa ee ting / fighting" (1 2 3 skt1 hwa ee ting!)
then soong,
hwa soong
the "soong" is pronounced with your mouth straight horizontally, teeth closed/together, instead of making an "o" shape with the mouth
smile, makes it easier :D
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noooo.. i was already used to the name lecaf.
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On January 30 2009 12:37 XYoonZ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 11:57 MrHoon wrote:+ Show Spoiler +netizens return!
Netizen
omg
Netizen
lollllllllllllllllllllllll
Netizen
kekkekekekekekekekekekekekeke Hwaseung kekekekek
Netizen
what the fuck is this
Netizen
goddamn holidays make the news section of this website totally shitty. If it wasn't for the fast quality news your site would suck ass.
Netizen
ah, so corny lol
Netizen
HWASEUNG HWASEUNG HWASUNG HWASUNG HWASEUNG HWASEUNG HWASUNG HWASUNG HWASEUNG HWASEUNG HWASUNG HWASUNG HWASEUNG HWASEUNG HWASUNG HWASUNG HWASEUNG HWASEUNG HWASUNG HWASUNG HWASEUNG HWASEUNG HWASUNG HWASUNG
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................................ How can you suck more than Woongjin........................
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if you say it really fast, it sounds like a bad word
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no it doesn't you retard
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omg its so natural
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fuck hwaseung, we're calling it oz
Netizen
They should've changed Oz too. Hwaseung Oz? Wtf.
Netizen
starcraft is dying anyways, better this way.
Netizen
Hwaseung Oz sounds so... Stupid. Good job for Lecaf Oz to get the head brand, but seriously they should change Oz too. Hwaseung Phoenix or some shit.
Netizen
Hwaseung Shoes plz
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gg
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man lecaf was so much better
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lol wtfff
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man its going to be so awkward. We're so used to Lecaf that this will be so weird.
Netizen
shitsux kekekekekekekkekekekekkekkekkekkekkekek
Netizen
hwaseung is so gay
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stfu my name is hwaseung
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go to school hwaseung
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This is a good change, now Koreans will stop speaking broken retarded english and learn to speak proper korean for a change.
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LOL it feels so weird seeing hwaseung at #1 rank of proleague
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yeah wtff lol These are translated right Mr. Hoon? Cause i can totally see how these comments were made in korean...Damn kids...
I'm pretty sure these netizens inhabit the darkest regions of Mr.Hoon's mind.
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what an ugly name and very diFficult to memorize it >.<
lecaf oz is much better
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I will call them Backh OZ, and yeah, I'm a fan.
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I like this, even though Lecaf was sweet and all, I like how this is going in the name of progaming even inside of korea.
Oz is still Oz, so I'm cool
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Hwa-Se-ung
Hwa is pronounced as that of (Hwa)sin
Se is pronouned as that of (Se)oul
Ung is pronounced as that of Sam(Sung)
it should be something like Who-Ar-Song
i think?
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OOOOOOAHZUNG
seriously though ... Lee Jaedong Oz.
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Most English guides I've read use the vowel sound in "brook" for the Korean vowel "ㅡ" (eu) in "승".
So, similar to the double-o in words like "look" or "book," but the "r" before it brings it closer to a mix with an "ee" sound by placing it farther back on the tongue. I've also seen it described as just this: a mix between a normal English "oo" and "ee" sound. Can anyone think of a better English word for it?
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Lecaf was way better, but i understand the thinking about this.
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On January 30 2009 19:31 Asianic wrote:
Hwa-Se-ung
Hwa is pronounced as that of (Hwa)sin
Se is pronouned as that of (Se)oul
Ung is pronounced as that of Sam(Sung)
it should be something like Who-Ar-Song
i think?
no.
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the new name sounds too long!!
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Lecaf oz much cooler
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Netizen
hwaseung is so gay
Netizen
stfu my name is hwaseung
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go to school hwaseung
ROFL I snorted so hard snot came out my nose.
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lecaf sounds so much more sexier..
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Some hints about the SEUNG pronounciation:
UpMagiC's name is Shin Hee Seung, MuMyung's name is Sung Hak Seung.
If you don't get it.. just listen carefully when the fan girls shout "HWASEUNG HWAITING" in the next PL match.
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On January 30 2009 21:22 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
lecaf sounds so much more sexier..
Always thought it was the most 'professional' of the names along KTF and SKT1.
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On January 30 2009 19:31 Asianic wrote:
Hwa-Se-ung
Hwa is pronounced as that of (Hwa)sin
Se is pronouned as that of (Se)oul
Ung is pronounced as that of Sam(Sung)
it should be something like Who-Ar-Song
i think?
lol no.
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Anyone mind telling us how to pronounce it? My guess is Hwah-Sung (as in past tense of to sing) but I have no idea
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On January 31 2009 03:43 Hazz wrote:
Anyone mind telling us how to pronounce it? My guess is Hwah-Sung (as in past tense of to sing) but I have no idea
omg it's been explained like eight times by five different ppl already. Read through the thread before you ask something like that...please...T_T
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On January 30 2009 21:18 nataziel wrote:
Netizen
hwaseung is so gay
Netizen
stfu my name is hwaseung
Netizen
go to school hwaseung
ROFL I snorted so hard snot came out my nose.
yeah Hahah
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On January 30 2009 07:39 dmfg wrote:
Huh. Well I guess we can still call it Oz.
On a sidenote, I wonder what Hwaseung actually means, because in Chinese it means peanut :p
oh yeah: PeanutOZ
god../facepalm
oh and ty MrHoon those are hilarious!
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On January 31 2009 02:23 Puosu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 21:22 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
lecaf sounds so much more sexier.. Always thought it was the most 'professional' of the names along KTF and SKT1.
Hanbit Stars imo
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On January 30 2009 10:52 benjammin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 10:09 Magic84 wrote:
wut. Just name it JAEEEDOOOONG Pro-Game Team and it's be alright. so goddamn true JAEDONG OZ ftw
Hehe, that happens to be my fantasy Winner's League team's name.
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51398 Posts
All twelve progaming teams except Ace should split into their own cities with their own stadiums, that would be so cool.
Like SK Seoul T1? :O KTF Busan MagicNs?
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Good they kept the old logo.
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Too bad, Lecaf OZ sounded so much better, i don't even think i can pronounce the new name
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On January 30 2009 11:56 cz wrote:
Yeah it makes sense on the language change from a Korean perspective, but isn't Lecaf a french word?
No, it isn't.
I have already heard caf being used as a short for café (coffee), but is very uncommon. So le caf (in two words) could mean the coffee, but seriously, you will never hear it, let alone read it.
Otherwise, this is great news for Oz. More money means better working/living conditions, which means better results, which means Hwaseung will destroy everyone again in 2009
On a side note, could the 3rd brand mentionned in the OP be Merrell? They make great quality outdoor sportwear. Their hiking shoes are among the best.
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United Arab Emirates5091 Posts
i guess whoever's paying is calling the shots huh
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they can send their old uniforms (all) to TL.net!
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
Im actually digging their new uniform much more than the previous one.
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On February 01 2009 22:15 MrHoon wrote:
Im actually digging their new uniform much more than the previous one.
New uniform? Where? When?
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I kinda like it. I'm lookin' through all the posts, hopefully someone knows the correct pronunciation. I'm thinkin' "Hwa-Shoong"?
On January 30 2009 11:50 FrozenArbiter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2009 10:04 sushiman wrote:
Think lecaf sounded better, but I guess I can start calling them hoz. There's an upside to everything!
Yes there sure is ^^
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K-Swiss was a Korean company? I was confident that it was... Swiss... I guess this will stick eventually but not immediately. I mean it took so long to change from Hanbit Stars and Lecaf Oz is an even more household name than Hanbit.
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
Hwaseung Oz or Lecaf Hwaseung?
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so the seung is like con(cern) only without the r sound? Or am i totally wrong?
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On February 03 2009 10:16 redtooth wrote:
K-Swiss was a Korean company? I was confident that it was... Swiss... I guess this will stick eventually but not immediately. I mean it took so long to change from Hanbit Stars and Lecaf Oz is an even more household name than Hanbit.
no, K-Swiss is US company.. XD
Hwaseung is just import dealer. (Lecaf is their original brand)
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On February 03 2009 10:29 KizZBG wrote:
Hwaseung Oz or Lecaf Hwaseung?
"Hwaseung Oz" is right
Lecaf is one of HwaSeung's brand.
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NO MORE REKAP OZ
they used samsung a in their logo
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Germany2762 Posts
looks like samsung.. the capital A at least.
On February 05 2009 07:59 MuR)Ernu wrote:
NO MORE REKAP OZ
they used samsung a in their logo
lol same minute, same content ^^
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On February 03 2009 10:56 Byo wrote:
so the seung is like con(cern) only without the r sound? Or am i totally wrong?
You are right. It sounds like that.
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I preferred Lecaf Oz
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On February 05 2009 08:16 Resonance wrote: I preferred Lecaf Oz
so do I.
Lecaf is favorite sports brand in Korea, but most korean don't know Hwaseung.. (company name)
that's why they changed their team name.
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
I am definitely going to mess up and keep calling them Lecaf OZ - Hwaseung is annoying to pronounce. I like their remodeled jackets though.
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i dont get how its so hard to pronounce really.
But im supa supa gosu.
Imo it sounds/looks nicer than lecaf oz.
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i guess that's it, we will have to start a teamliquid korean class
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omg, OP please update with a quote from someone properly explaining the pronunciation...this is getting kinda sad... -_____-;;
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Ugly name, very ugly.
Lecaf Oz was an awesome name.
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