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SpriteLove
Profile Joined September 2008
United States226 Posts
January 24 2009 00:23 GMT
#21
wow this is awesome too bad i stopped playing TvZ and went back to ZvZ -_-

Cant wait for ZvT and ZvP vods tho ^_^
mG.SpriteLove
MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
January 24 2009 00:23 GMT
#22
cool, thanks a lot ret! makes me wish i still played
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
January 24 2009 00:23 GMT
#23
Cool! Great game, and your English is excellent! Very illuminating commentary. Do more!
May the BeSt man win.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 24 2009 00:23 GMT
#24
i love you ret this was amazing.
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404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
January 24 2009 00:25 GMT
#25
On January 24 2009 09:23 SpriteLove wrote:
wow this is awesome too bad i stopped playing TvZ and went back to ZvZ -_-

Cant wait for ZvT and ZvP vods tho ^_^

AGreed! I would love to see some ZvT =D
"So, then did the American yum-yum clown monkey also represent the FCC?"
F91
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand77 Posts
January 24 2009 00:25 GMT
#26
awesome, learnt a lot
fong0r is a infested terran in disguise
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 24 2009 00:31 GMT
#27
Great! I'm thinking about making a few VODs and TvZ guides myself. This will inspire me^^
Just gotta get merz to teach me how to record.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-24 00:38:39
January 24 2009 00:34 GMT
#28
After watching the games, here are some of my thoughts:

- personally, I enjoying watching FPVODs where the VOD maker wins. It can either be a clean game from start to finish, focusing on the things you did well. Or it can be a comeback (like this VOD) where you fall behind but you demonstrate the steps to take in order to get back into the game and then take it home for the win.

- haha, ease up on the "here I fuck up..." lines. Humility is a good thing and you are for sure one of the most humble players but everyone messes up here and there. Self-confidence is still a good thing too.

- I'd really like it if you go into more detail about the playing style of various foreigners. You touched upon it lightly in regards to Mondragon's opening BO, what he likes to do and specifically how you counter it (Mondi cuts lings => you go double rax before marines). Stuff like this adds a personal touch and style so the VOD is just straight forward and you only talk about mechanics. Hearing your thought process aloud is great. I lol'ed at the "Peruvian zergs" line.
You were fairly behind at one point but the mix of your 2 dship drops, self-irradiating vessels at the nat, and knocking out 9 o'clock roughly all at the same time was art.

- Lastly, hope you do a ZvP game next.

#1 ret fan!
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25986 Posts
January 24 2009 00:41 GMT
#29
Can you run through your hotkeys? Specifically when you make the switch from 567 CC to units, because that's a time I really struggle as an offracing Terran.
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Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
January 24 2009 00:59 GMT
#30
Thx, I'll try to use some of this info next time I play vsZ =)
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
HaiVan
Profile Joined April 2005
Bulgaria1698 Posts
January 24 2009 01:06 GMT
#31
ret, you are awesome!
Listen to The Special One
ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
January 24 2009 01:20 GMT
#32
nice fpvod long time i watched a fpvod from start to finish ^_^
Studying Chinese~
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 24 2009 01:26 GMT
#33
It's great to finally see some standard TvZs after all those mech builds

Good insight as well
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
January 24 2009 01:31 GMT
#34
All i can say is i loved the FPVOD and i look forward to your next one, i'm actually contemplating trying out terran for awhile now that i saw this VOD.

Great job and great commenting.
We make signature, then defense it.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
January 24 2009 01:36 GMT
#35
FPVods are awesome, thanks!
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
January 24 2009 01:38 GMT
#36
great job
I am not good with quotes
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-24 05:00:45
January 24 2009 02:07 GMT
#37
Awesome, you're still a great TvZer.

Some things you could improve on:

- Building placement. Your barrackses were closely put together, but your starports and eng bays werent placed together. Also some depots were misplaced. I liked how you made a more narrow choke on the natural with depots though. Helped you out some when Mondragon tried to counter without paying attention.

- Getting bunkers on your third. Two or three bunkers (preferrably with a firebat or two as lings are often the biggest issue) there can really help you lategame.

- Im not sure if you are aware of the clone-technique(you probably are), but it works out really well when you get above 3-4 vessels, because you can stack them and hence it's harder for the zerg to scourge different vessels. Downside with this is that he can plague all of them easier. For me atleast irradiating manually one at a time like you did makes me feel unconfortable as the vessels arent continously moving.

- Your micro can of course be improved as you pointed out you are a macro player. Not that it was bad, but it could be better.

- Reinforcing your main army more often. This is sooo important when you go SK, because you will be able to win battles you wouldnt if you didnt reinforce. Some of the battles where you say "he had more lings than I thought so he won that battle" could have been won if you had reinforcements. If you fill up too many hotkeys, and cant control more of them efficiently get dropships. You did this though

- And lastly as you also mentioned queing up too many units in your barrackses, missing some depots etc(typical macrostuff).

Could be more, but that all I can think of right now.

Hope you make more of these, really enjoyed it, thank you

EDIT: Forgot to mention the energy upgrade on vessels. Getting this is very useful when you get above 8 vessels.
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
January 24 2009 02:21 GMT
#38
Awesome! That was very nice. Very informative.

I look forward to you doing more.
Hello
Sagechord
Profile Joined January 2009
6 Posts
January 24 2009 02:22 GMT
#39
Thanks alot! GG

I've seen people deal with the annoying lurkers below natural on destination by having a bunker there with a few marines. I always use lurkers at that spot on this map. If u do it while theres a battle going on it's a big chance your opponent won't notice them for the longest time.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 24 2009 02:34 GMT
#40
On January 24 2009 09:41 Chill wrote:
Can you run through your hotkeys? Specifically when you make the switch from 567 CC to units, because that's a time I really struggle as an offracing Terran.

This please, terran hotkeys baffle me.
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