EPTi hope you make more of these in the future ret :D
FPVod TvZ by ret - Page 3
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
i hope you make more of these in the future ret :D | ||
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TheFlashyOne
Canada450 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
I absolutely LOVE Fpvods. I don't even play terran but I really enjoyed watching it. imo fpvods with commentary are like the easiest, fastest way to improve ever. To see what a pro/gosu is doing in a game and have their reasoning and explanations for it is just so useful. Thanks you! | ||
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KrAzYfoOL
Australia3037 Posts
On January 24 2009 11:07 Guybrush wrote: - Your micro can of course be improved as you pointed out you are a macro player. Not that it was bad, but it could be better. Actually from the handful of replays I've seen of ret playing TvZ his micro seems to be his strong suit, in fact his control seems far better than most non-Korean Terrans. | ||
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
On January 24 2009 08:35 NeoIllusions wrote: <3 retje More please!  Very interesting to watch, a lot to learn from and I hope to see more tvz FPVoDs of you soon!  | ||
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Straylight
Canada706 Posts
Man ret is pointing out all his own mistakes and in the youtube comments kid are still like "you're so cocky" -___- | ||
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
On January 24 2009 13:36 Straylight wrote: Nice vod, thanks for taking the time to do this. Man ret is pointing out all his own mistakes and in the youtube comments kid are still like "you're so cocky" -___- kids probably rating combat-ex vods 5/5, lol im gonna go thumbs up every positive comment and thumb down every negative one fucking youtube trolls edit: rofl at the kids telling him he has no timing and is a nub | ||
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
On January 24 2009 13:06 KrAzYfoOL wrote: Actually from the handful of replays I've seen of ret playing TvZ his micro seems to be his strong suit, in fact his control seems far better than most non-Korean Terrans. I was only saying it could be better. Surely it might be better than most non-Korean Terrans. | ||
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Straylight
Canada706 Posts
I mean I could walk up to some basketball player who just missed a free throw and be like "Your free throw shooting could be better." It doesn't that give him any info on how to actually go about getting better. | ||
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ketomai
United States2789 Posts
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wiesel
Germany727 Posts
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Mista
Singapore1022 Posts
Lol.great job tho ret ! | ||
GTR
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
On January 24 2009 14:28 Straylight wrote: Well you could have identified exactly how he could've microed better, otherwise your comment on his micro isn't of much help. I mean I could walk up to some basketball player who just missed a free throw and be like "Your free throw shooting could be better." It doesn't that give him any info on how to actually go about getting better. You're right about that. Still; describing how you could micro better is like describing how you shouldnt forget depots or not queing up barrackses though. I could show Mumyung a FPVOD of Jaedong microing his mutalisks to show how it's done, and that would most likely be much more helpful than me talking about how he should use patrol, and attack the scourges from certain angles, stack his mutas etc. The parts where I saw potential to micro better were at the first contain he did with the m&ms. First attack Mondragon did with his ling/lurker combo ret microed very well, targeting and killing a lurker and pulling back without losing anything. Then at Mondragons next advancement he pulls back too late giving the lurkers a good amount of kills. ret pointed this out himself saying he didnt pay attention. Then theres losing that first vessel which he also pointed out. Later in the game the same thing happens, but he says he doesnt care about them being scourged because he needs to irradiate as much as possible as fast as possible. He could have had his m&ms closer to prevent some of his losses there. Then theres the part @ 3 o'clock where he says he accepted to lose those units because the battle was lost, and he had already taken out the hatchery, and just enjoyed the satisfaction of having done that Some of the other fights he spread his m&ms very well, but misjudged the amount of units he had compared to mondragons amount of units which made him lose his army. He could have pulled back earlier when he saw the battle couldnt be won. I mean describing micro errors is pretty much common knowledge, and there isnt a common magical recipe on how to micro better. The only solution to better micro is faster reaction, better accurancy, and fast decicionmaking(knowing when to retreat). This can be obtained by more practice. There are common guidelines on what to do to minimize your losses though; spread your units so they do not die to splash-damage units/get plagued, twirl your dropship/vessels around so the scourges AI get fucked up, target his units and pull back, have your m&ms infront of your tanks not behind them, dont over-stim your marines, d-matrix a marine and isolate it from your main army to absorb splash damage, do not irradiate a unit that is already irradiated, dont waste irradiate on lower tier units like lings/hydras if you can irradiate more cost-heavy units, have your vessels infront of your army so you spot danger in time, but dont let them stray too far away from your m&ms etc. I could go on, but I think I made my point. | ||
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KrAzYfoOL
Australia3037 Posts
On January 24 2009 14:07 Guybrush wrote: I was only saying it could be better. Surely it might be better than most non-Korean Terrans. ...Obviously it could be better, even Flash's TvZ could be better.... | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Getting acad first before your 2nd rax was more common before but lately i see more terrans adding their 2nd rax first and i was curious to the difference between adding your 2nd rax before acad and vice versa. I watched your fpvod and it really shows how to abuse vessels haha. | ||
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