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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On January 02 2009 07:32 cOllapSe wrote: Aren't you guys over reacting a bit? Surely people reading his side of the story doesn't hurt, besides everyone deserves another chance. He'll get his second chance in exactly 1 year after his most recent abusing attempt. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On January 02 2009 07:32 cOllapSe wrote: Aren't you guys over reacting a bit? Surely people reading his side of the story doesn't hurt, besides everyone deserves another chance. THIS IS OUR HOUSE You are our guests. We will make all attempts to treat everyone with due respect and to accomodate everyone's wishes as far as reasonably possible. But, this is a private site. We are not a "for profit" enterprise. We are not funded by any governments. This means we run the site the way we see fit. We are not obligated to observe anyone's notions of "free speech" or even "fairness." We try of course, and that's why we're consistently considered one of the best gaming sites on the web, and you are always free to give us suggestions. Just the rules of this site. I don't think what the administrators here are doing is right, but it's their site and you just have to respect their decisions. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
It amazes me how quickly willingly the community accepts back people who commit the cardinal sin. I don't know about you, but I really dislike cheaters and abusers. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27178 Posts
To me, this constitutes absolute and utter DISRESPECT for the hard work and ideas of TL volunteers. This is unforgivable. Because of this, I feel I do not owe LastShadow or KawaiiRice anything. They have forfeited their right to speak on TeamLiquid because of their massive disrespect towards TeamLiquid. There is no reason for them to "tell their side of the story" here, because their actions have already told their story. The only thing this interview will do it give a place for them to make apologies and excuses for their behaviour. I do not want to hear either. If they wish to regain their reputation in the community, they need to do so with actions and no words. Unfortunately, they do not seem to understand this. PM me if you have any specific concerns about this issue. | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On January 02 2009 06:23 Hot_Bid wrote:Let's say someone punches you in the face, you are allowed a certain retaliatory period of disliking them am I correct? Would you instantly forgive 1 second later because "it was in the past!!!" hahahaha I LOVED this | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
Chika, if you expect to be respected with zero background or collateral to rely on, only post in your own thread and then interview kids like Kawaii/LS you will be quite disappointed.... When i joined the bw community i was scared shitless and very cautiously contributed what i could because there of how uneducated i was (and probably still am to some degree). This commentator/interviewer movement leaves a bit of a bad taste in my mouth when i see such a lack fo desire for education before getting involved. To see you try and defend idiots who you have had zero interaction with beyond setting up an interview leads me to question why you are doing them if not just for publicity/hits. | ||
GTR
51695 Posts
On January 02 2009 10:31 Kennigit wrote: When i joined the bw community i was scared shitless and very cautiously contributed what i could because there of how uneducated i was (and probably still am to some degree). it's ok. we wished our first threads ended in..... + Show Spoiler + MORTAL KOMBAT + Show Spoiler + <3 | ||
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
On January 02 2009 06:06 Kwark wrote: Kawaii isn't mannered lol. Dude fucking explodes when he loses. Kinda funny. Makes cheesing him worthwhile. There I fixed it for you Kwark. | ||
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
WCG UK CHAMPION K W A R K | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
On January 02 2009 11:37 LordWeird wrote: I think you (Chika) know who to interview next. WCG UK CHAMPION K W A R K He came in second, out of two. Remember that long blog he posted about how the out of shape Median only beat him because of nerves. He continues on to explain how they both sat down after the match and discussed it and that Kwark's Cheese on Andromeda would have worked had Median not scouted it. Anyways, it went something like that. | ||
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Pads
England3228 Posts
On January 02 2009 11:37 LordWeird wrote: I think you (Chika) know who to interview next. WCG UK CHAMPION K W A R K you know, midian won, right? | ||
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JudgeMathis
Cuba1286 Posts
I think in his eyes... he see's Kwark as the champion of UK.  But, I hope he knows that Midian won.edit: I agree with the staff about not posting the interview with the cheaters/abusers. Hot_Bid has it right with the punches analogy. | ||
mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
On January 02 2009 10:31 Kennigit wrote: I feel that there is a noobiness movement affecting "public" Broodwar. Its this idea that anyone can do anything without basic investigation into this field/game. It falls in the same frame as the plethora of youtube commentators who having watched 50 replays/vods feel they know whats going on and can preach it. Chika, if you expect to be respected with zero background or collateral to rely on, only post in your own thread and then interview kids like Kawaii/LS you will be quite disappointed.... When i joined the bw community i was scared shitless and very cautiously contributed what i could because there of how uneducated i was (and probably still am to some degree). This commentator/interviewer movement leaves a bit of a bad taste in my mouth when i see such a lack fo desire for education before getting involved. To see you try and defend idiots who you have had zero interaction with beyond setting up an interview leads me to question why you are doing them if not just for publicity/hits. I think this sums it up nicely. A little harsh, but not without merit. | ||
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
 However, you can be a champion without actually winning, just think about it. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On January 02 2009 10:31 Kennigit wrote: + Show Spoiler + I feel that there is a noobiness movement affecting "public" Broodwar. Its this idea that anyone can do anything without basic investigation into this field/game. It falls in the same frame as the plethora of youtube commentators who having watched 50 replays/vods feel they know whats going on and can preach it. Chika, if you expect to be respected with zero background or collateral to rely on, only post in your own thread and then interview kids like Kawaii/LS you will be quite disappointed.... When i joined the bw community i was scared shitless and very cautiously contributed what i could because there of how uneducated i was (and probably still am to some degree). This commentator/interviewer movement leaves a bit of a bad taste in my mouth when i see such a lack fo desire for education before getting involved. To see you try and defend idiots who you have had zero interaction with beyond setting up an interview leads me to question why you are doing them if not just for publicity/hits. I respect this opinion and that of Manifesto's, so I'll give my own response about Kawaii. About the interview being posted here, I definitely agree it is your right (TL admins) to run the site how you see fit, and I also understand your stance taken towards people who have cheated in your events, you can ban Kawaii and LS and whatnot and take whatever stance you want - understood. I made a choice to allow Kawaii a trial member in LighT, and I'll deal with the consequences. I've known both him and Lastshadow for over a year now, and I know (you can accept or reject this, whatever) that Kawaii is NOT the same as Lastshadow, although he can be annoying a lot of the time. Despite what you guys here think, I don't think he's going to do anything shady / malicious again, he seems to have distanced himself from Lastshadow, and it's been almost (or over) seven months since he cheated in the WCG Qualifiers. Anways point being, I think he definitely deserves all the shit he did - because he fucked up, and he deserves whatever timelimit on bans that TL wants to give him, since he cheated their event, but I've made a personal decision to give him a chance, I'm just hoping that he's sincere. | ||
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Manifesto7
Osaka27178 Posts
Actions speak louder than words, and that is what it will take for him to redeem himself in my eyes. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On January 02 2009 11:57 selboN wrote: He came in second, out of two. Remember that long blog he posted about how the out of shape Median only beat him because of nerves. He continues on to explain how they both sat down after the match and discussed it and that Kwark's Cheese on Andromeda would have worked had Median not scouted it. Anyways, it went something like that. someone is a kwark stalker!!! | ||
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
No, someone gets annoyed by kids with inflated e-egos. | ||
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