Not Saying GG - Page 8

On August 19 2008 10:02 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
Much the same way as shaking hands after a game or bowing after a bout in some martial arts. I think the idea is to provide some kind of closure to the game.

During those games you spend the entire time trying to undermine or overcome your opponent. Generally you will subconciously dehumanise them as just 'an opponent' rather than as a fellow human being while you are focused. Saying gg provides the closure indicating the end to this mentality, eg since the game is over.
It is meant to indicate a sorta no hard feelings attitude, 'we just played a game where we tried to kill each other's stuff, but it's not personal'.

I'm with Chill on this one, just leaving a game feels abrupt, like a chess player just standing up and leaving the table without resigning their king.

On the other hands, playing with friends is one of the few times i don't bother gg, although i mostly do it out of habit anyway. Since your probably going to talk to them in channel anyway, it's not like the last impression you leave with them is you leaving a game abruptly.

On August 19 2008 07:19 micronesia wrote:

Why should the loser be held to guidelines that the winner isn't held to? That aside, I don't see why the loser should have to 'pay your respect' to the better opponent (as I mentioned in the OP). If you lose, and leave without making a fuss, and don't complain or claim you made mistakes, that should be good enough. If you want to pay further respects (especially vs a significantly more skilled/known player) then feel free.

The only time the loser should not gg is, well, when the game is terrible. I mean losing to a lame strategy, hit and run tactics...anything that could make you really frustrated, I don't think you have to say gg for, because both the loser and the winner wouldn't really expect to give or receive respect in a bullshit game.

On August 19 2008 07:19 micronesia wrote:I think it's risky to say you should gg at some times in casual games, but not at other times. It's a fine line and people are bound to get offended. The two ways to avoid this are either to always type out, or just not attach as much meaning to it, and as you can tell I prefer the latter solution.

On August 19 2008 13:54 ScarFace wrote:
The winner shouldn't do anything because he won, he is dominant, its natural for those beaten in submission to pay their respects, acknowledge their betters. A game is no different, if you don't do it, its considered bad, its a universal truth.

How can it be risky? It's a game. Someones gets offended, boo hoo.

On August 19 2008 13:58 micronesia wrote:

The winner is held to lower standards of gm? Lol wtf that's not how a mannered game should be.

Why should the loser have to submit? That's not why you gg... it's not to admit that they are better... it's to admit that the game is over... and possibly that you appreciate the manner...

You're saying 'boo hoo' about people getting offended.... and yet the one who's getting offended is you... when I don't type out. LOL

On August 19 2008 14:02 Zelniq wrote:
saying GG is very important. it's saying you surrender, it's being respectful, it's showing youre not just so pissed you just leave right away in a rush. if youre playing a game and all of a sudden your opponent just leaves out of nowhere, the game doesnt have a nice closure to it. it doesn't feel as much of a win that way.. especially if there's the possibilty the person left for other reasons than giving up. it also shows what kind of person the loser is

On August 19 2008 14:02 mahnini wrote:
just type gg you faggots what's the big fucking deal. oh well it wasnt a gg blahblahblah. its common courtesy, acknowledgment, and a sign of respect motherfucker its not hard.

On August 19 2008 14:07 ScarFace wrote:
Who says im offended when you don't type out? I just see the ways thing 'should' be, and posted my thoughts on them. GGing is giving respect to the person who is better than you, admitting you lost legitimately and acknowledging that he played better than you. Not gging shows the opposite. Simple.

On August 19 2008 14:28 micronesia wrote:

Congratulations mahnini on being the 20th person to pretend the only reason to not type out 'gg' is because 'it wasn't a gg'

I agree, typing out 'gg' isn't hard. Obviously that's not what this discussion is about -_-a

On August 19 2008 13:42 Polemarch wrote:


QFT. In-game you're doing your best to defeat your opponent. But back in the real-world, you have nothing against this person. Saying GG signifies that you recognize it's just a game and that you're back in the real-world mindset. The secondary meaning of "I give up" is RTS specific.

On August 19 2008 14:47 mahnini wrote:

Um, what's the reason then?

On August 19 2008 14:28 micronesia wrote:

No, you see things the way you think they should be... and you don't seem to be aware of the fact that the way you think things should be is not necessarily the way they actually are.

You are also oversimplifying by saying GGing is giving respect to the person 'who is better than you' since many losses are to people who are worse than you. That's not the issue. As for admitting you lost... leaving the game does that quite sufficiently. The only way to not admit you lost is either to force your opponent to eliminate buildings, or to say something bm. Your logic fails unless someone already subscribes to your school of thought.

On August 19 2008 14:50 micronesia wrote:

Because there's no logical reason to type out other than to satisfy the illogical desire of the opponent who won...

On August 19 2008 14:02 mahnini wrote:
just type gg you faggots what's the big fucking deal. oh well it wasnt a gg blahblahblah. its common courtesy, acknowledgment, and a sign of respect motherfucker its not hard.

On August 19 2008 15:09 ScarFace wrote:
What are you babbling about exactly? GGing is admitting you were outplayed, whether you acknowledge it or not, it is paying respects to a superior opponent- whether they be superior in general or simply bested you in that game. It's all about the subconscious interpretation of such a message, its like being bested in battle and bowing before your conquerer.