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M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
 ))Poll: Will Flash win all 3 tournaments? (Vote): Yes, all of them! (Vote): He will win MSL and OSL (Vote): He will win MSL and Intel-Classic (Vote): He will win OSL and Intel-Classic (Vote): Only MSL (Vote): Only OSL (Vote): Only Intel-Classic (Vote): None | ||
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Play
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Japan6199 Posts
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United States7801 Posts
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
On June 11 2008 21:06 nevergg wrote: You hate Jaedong too? As long as Jaedong doesn't win MSL I don't mind. I hope Flash takes some of the titles home though - he's a nice kid. | ||
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kpcrew
Korea (South)1071 Posts
flash will rape all though no doubt | ||
LosingID8
CA10828 Posts
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Kyuki
Sweden1867 Posts
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IPS.ZeRo
Germany1142 Posts
Oh and proleague with ktf | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
flash is better now than he was and jaedong seems a bit worse, but id still say jaedong is a favorite given current maps that favor standard play a bit more. best has a decent shot at him too, with a little luck. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
MSL and intel? o_O | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + =[ dont hurrt me by.flash-> (he invents a new tvz strat) noo!! | ||
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Ra.Xor.2
United States1784 Posts
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CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On June 11 2008 23:23 Ra.Xor.2 wrote: after watching flash thrash every other competent player in the world do you honestly still think hes not good in standard play? I think flash is to bisu as jaedong is to savior, in other words - flash will always beat jaedong whenever they meet, but he'll eventually get crushed by a newcomer... The sc circle lol didnt say he wasnt good in standard play as he most obviously is. just said in standard games vs jaedong jaedong has outplayed him every time. also, jaedong beat him in the only bo5 series they played 3-1, only losing to mech on katrina. flash beat him with a sunken break and mech 2-1 (losing a straight up game) in osl and won vs him in the gsi 2-1 all 3 games being cheese from one side or another. | ||
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kyjori
371 Posts
On June 11 2008 23:23 Ra.Xor.2 wrote: after watching flash thrash every other competent player in the world do you honestly still think hes not good in standard play? I think flash is to bisu as jaedong is to savior, in other words - flash will always beat jaedong whenever they meet, but he'll eventually get crushed by a newcomer... The sc circle lol arent they 5-5 against each other? how are they similar to the raping savior gets from bisu? | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
Edit: Jaedong is still a threat to Flash. However, I'm expecting Hwasin to take Jaedong out of the MSL. As for OSL, the only threat to Flash is possibly Best, who i believe Flash can overcome. | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
Besides beating Flash in PL once when Flash didn't scout (good play by best though), BeSt has only beat the following terrans: NaDa, go.go, and UpMagic. And lost to Mind. Not exactly the craziest roster of opponents. | ||
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Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
On June 11 2008 23:23 Ra.Xor.2 wrote: after watching flash thrash every other competent player in the world do you honestly still think hes not good in standard play? I think flash is to bisu as jaedong is to savior, in other words - flash will always beat jaedong whenever they meet, but he'll eventually get crushed by a newcomer... The sc circle lol Note that you, 1, mixed up the names, as you meant to say "Flash is to Jaedong is what Bisu is to sAvior" 2, made a completely dumb statement 3, they're 5-5 in those famous matches iirc, that's hardly "beating Jaedong whenever they meet" Conclusion: well I'll try to be a bit more friendly, and just advise you to look around a lil' bit | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On June 12 2008 00:30 Vasoline73 wrote: Why does everyone think BeSt has a shot at beating Flash in a BoX series? Besides beating Flash in PL once when Flash didn't scout (good play by best though), BeSt has only beat the following terrans: NaDa, go.go, and UpMagic. And lost to Mind. Not exactly the craziest roster of opponents. because best is insanely good and on a hot streak? and the maps are good for pvt. andromeda and troy at least in osl, i forget the rest of the map pool. no ones calling best the favorite, but to say he doesnt have a shot is idiotic. | ||
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Sigrun
United States1654 Posts
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HamerD
United Kingdom1922 Posts
He's still got 4 years until he's 20 for god's sake. I think that he will have time to adapt his game to any up and comers. I think he will be high rank for a long time. Even if he doesn't win ANYTHING, it won't mean he sucks now, he'll still just be 16 ><! | ||
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GunsofthePatriots
South Africa991 Posts
Mind ftw. Flash is the best right now, but he is not better than that many other players. | ||
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GunsofthePatriots
South Africa991 Posts
On June 12 2008 01:05 IdrA wrote: because best is insanely good and on a hot streak? and the maps are good for pvt. andromeda and troy at least in osl, i forget the rest of the map pool. no ones calling best the favorite, but to say he doesnt have a shot is idiotic. BTW how is it going in korea? Getting your ass kicked? | ||
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Goosey
United States695 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On June 12 2008 01:36 GunsofthePatriots wrote: BTW how is it going in korea? Getting your ass kicked? nope i 20-0'd everyone on the team. | ||
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GunsofthePatriots
South Africa991 Posts
... Can you pull that off in Courage League? Or will you choke? | ||
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
On June 11 2008 23:42 0xDEADBEEF wrote: Unlikely that he'll win several at once. Even if Flash is currently in better shape than others, his skill level is not noticeably higher than Jaedong's or Best's and maybe 1-2 others' too (Kal? Mind?). Dude, did you see Flash beat Mind or Kal? Not pretty sights | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
On June 12 2008 01:47 GunsofthePatriots wrote: ... Can you pull that off in Courage League? Or will you choke? Why are u being a dick? | ||
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GunsofthePatriots
South Africa991 Posts
Man pass them off to me please! EDIT: IdrA has always been my favorite player even when he looked like a caveman! I bow at his big monkey feet! Reps? plz? | ||
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Elvin_vn
Vietnam2038 Posts
Flash is X, he's looking right at joo ![[image loading]](http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/3052/flashns3.jpg) | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + that was mean  im sorry | ||
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GunsofthePatriots
South Africa991 Posts
I'm just joking around | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
On June 11 2008 23:59 IdrA wrote: didnt say he wasnt good in standard play as he most obviously is. just said in standard games vs jaedong jaedong has outplayed him every time. also, jaedong beat him in the only bo5 series they played 3-1, only losing to mech on katrina. flash beat him with a sunken break and mech 2-1 (losing a straight up game) in osl and won vs him in the gsi 2-1 all 3 games being cheese from one side or another. Idra you obviously know and see more about the game than I do but I'm surprised to see you say this. After watching players like Mind and Hwasin systematically take down (demolish) Jaedong in recent games on the current map pool, I was of the opinion that Flash would be able to do it even more easily. I don't think there's anything that Mind or Hwasin do better than Flash right now (that's just my opinion of course). Are there things you've seen in Flash's (or Jaedong's/Mind's/Hwasin's) play that would lead you to think otherwise? | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On June 12 2008 02:39 darktreb wrote: Idra you obviously know and see more about the game than I do but I'm surprised to see you say this. After watching players like Mind and Hwasin systematically take down (demolish) Jaedong in recent games on the current map pool, I was of the opinion that Flash would be able to do it even more easily. I don't think there's anything that Mind or Hwasin do better than Flash right now (that's just my opinion of course). Are there things you've seen in Flash's (or Jaedong's/Mind's/Hwasin's) play that would lead you to think otherwise? Let me explain it to you actually Hwasin has a better TvZ then Flash and Mind's is a little bit weaker but almost the same , 2nd those were Bo1 PL game in Bo5 JD usually kills . The fact that Hwasin beat JD in one game doesn't mean that Flash can too maybe he can maybe he can't but that is Bo1. Now if i may have your attention in Bo5 Hwasin has more of a chance beating JD then Flash that fact is backed up with Flash's non standard play vs him in both OSL and MSL and GSI , which tells that he is not confidant faseing JD on some map and if he doesn't have a plan he will lose - MSL , back then don't know how much he is improved now . Hwasin on the other hand was the best TvZ in 2007 and he is not scared of JD's late game skills . So if JD kills Hwasin in the next round he will most likely demolish Flash too , anyway after 1 week we will see if JD is the GOD OF DESTRUCTION and the legend killer . | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
On June 12 2008 02:37 GreEny K wrote: does anyone know where i can find a match of best beating flash?? | ||
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diggurd
Norway346 Posts
the game vs darkelf was on the verge of being bm FE to wreitank on colosseum is a new gg flash build. he first took 12, then moved to 11. "fuck it ill go ~10 starports, lets get some gas".![[image loading]](http://b.imagehost.org/0758/vlcsnap-198778.png) | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9103 Posts
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AnyOne
Chile547 Posts
Best > Flash at OSL sAviOr > Flash at INTEL-CLASIC and then go slump and i hope he suicide | ||
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ray1234
Canada679 Posts
 Flash will be beaten by....+ Show Spoiler + | ||
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EvoChamber
France2505 Posts
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anotak
United States1537 Posts
On June 11 2008 22:56 IdrA wrote: he has yet to prove he can beat jaedong in a standard game. he beat him in 2 series but his wins were mmf sunken breaks, mech, and baekmagoji. jaedong won all of the biotankvessel vs muta ling lurk into defiler games, won them pretty easily for the most part. flash is better now than he was and jaedong seems a bit worse, but id still say jaedong is a favorite given current maps that favor standard play a bit more. Yo have quite a point, however Jaedong is slumping and Flash getting better and better... And yeah, the maps encourage more standard play, however it doesn't mean that Flash will be forced into standard play. To be honest I think Colosseum is encouraging Wraith TvZ a little, already seen 2 games like that (one of which was from Flash, in addition to his wraith-heavy tvt on that map vs. DarkElf in PL). Especially with the ling-proof wallability of the map. That's nearly impossible to do on Othello though... other maps Wuthering can be made with lingproof walls... but it's very open and hydras will have an easy chance vs. wraiths. Then again, as a rather shitty player I might just be talking out of my ass altogether. On June 12 2008 01:47 GunsofthePatriots wrote: ... Can you pull that off in Courage League? Or will you choke? i hate all the idra haters blegh why do people have to go out of their way to talk shit about him | ||
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Frits
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Retsukage
United States1002 Posts
I think he is fully capable if he plays the way he has been. | ||
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
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B1nary
Canada1267 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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IntoTheWow
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
You are my new buddy ^_^ On June 12 2008 05:19 B1nary wrote: I just don't see him losing. Right now, he's looking even better than sAviOr in his prime since he doesn't have a weak matchup. I can't think of anyone except MAYBE Jaedong who can take him down. Dude How can you | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
its not possible he will win osl, lose in msl to jaedong, and (dreams...) lose to savior in intel classic | ||
Atrioc
United States1865 Posts
Plus: Heavily slumping 1/8th fraction-of-himself complete crap sAviOr still went 3-4 with him in Skins. | ||
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JoxxOr
Sweden1502 Posts
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JoxxOr
Sweden1502 Posts
On June 12 2008 05:19 B1nary wrote: I just don't see him losing. Right now, he's looking even better than sAviOr in his prime since he doesn't have a weak match up. I can't think of anyone except MAYBE Jaedong who can take him down. Did you even watch pro starcraft when savior played?.. With that comment I'll guess my theory is correct To add my opinion in the OP. I hope he does not win one tournament this year, he is one of the most boring players in the world and I've still not forgiven him for his 2 cheeses against bisu, i hope Karma slices his throat (nah, but...). But in the shape he's in right now it makes me wonder how he could lose in both tournaments. I think he will have an easier run in OSL UNTIL he meets the god of war also known as July. Where he will face his inner demons and get owned like the little baby he really is. So be ready bandwagon guys, Bo5 Flash vs July plix | ||
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blagoonga123
United States2068 Posts
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NonY
8748 Posts
On June 12 2008 05:52 blagoonga123 wrote: Lol I find it funny that the two most unlikely choices are the ones most people are voting for. that's quite a roundabout way of saying "i'm in the minority" | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
On June 12 2008 05:45 Atrioc wrote: Flash isnt better than the Maestro in his prime. He has terran-favored maps this season and only one OSL win, lets not get ahead of ourself. Hes dominant but lets see how long it lasts. Plus: Heavily slumping 1/8th fraction-of-himself complete crap sAviOr still went 3-4 with him in Skins. this was before flash got good, mind you. | ||
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
On June 12 2008 03:02 raga4ka wrote: Let me explain it to you actually Hwasin has a better TvZ then Flash and Mind's is a little bit weaker but almost the same. Hwasin's TvZ better than Flash's? Does anyone else here really believe this? | ||
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
If he wins 1, he's a contender If he wins 2, he's the undisputable best If he wins 3, he's a legend, with more to come | ||
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Hyperionnn
Turkey4968 Posts
THAT'S MY HOPE GO  CAVEMAN! | ||
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Spyder
176 Posts
On June 12 2008 04:39 anotak wrote: Yo have quite a point, however Jaedong is slumping and Flash getting better and better... And yeah, the maps encourage more standard play, however it doesn't mean that Flash will be forced into standard play. To be honest I think Colosseum is encouraging Wraith TvZ a little, already seen 2 games like that (one of which was from Flash, in addition to his wraith-heavy tvt on that map vs. DarkElf in PL). Especially with the ling-proof wallability of the map. That's nearly impossible to do on Othello though... other maps Wuthering can be made with lingproof walls... but it's very open and hydras will have an easy chance vs. wraiths. Then again, as a rather shitty player I might just be talking out of my ass altogether. i hate all the idra haters blegh why do people have to go out of their way to talk shit about him Hell when JD becomes like Savior or Ra now then u can call it slump..at the moment he isnt slumping at all...his ZvT may be weaker but his ZvP is absolutely stronger | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
And no, hwasins tvz isn't better than flashs. Only reason Jaedong won vs flash on Loki in the Bo5 was coz he played like a fucking miracle, and now he isn't, not vs terran atleast. Flash still probably won't win all three of them. Most likely he'll win 1 of them though and second or so in the rest, but i hope he'll grab atleast 2 of them. That being said, i really hope jaedong will get his shit together and start playing good vs terrans again, coz vs protoss and zerg he is still dominant. Of course the others have a chance of beating him, but skillwise he is MUCH better than Mind, Kal, Much, Free, July, Hwasin and those guys.. only jaedong is a real threat skillwise. | ||
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cujo2k
Canada1044 Posts
On June 12 2008 03:02 raga4ka wrote: Let me explain it to you actually Hwasin has a better TvZ then Flash and Mind's is a little bit weaker but almost the same , 2nd those were Bo1 PL game in Bo5 JD usually kills . The fact that Hwasin beat JD in one game doesn't mean that Flash can too maybe he can maybe he can't but that is Bo1. Now if i may have your attention in Bo5 Hwasin has more of a chance beating JD then Flash that fact is backed up with Flash's non standard play vs him in both OSL and MSL and GSI , which tells that he is not confidant faseing JD on some map and if he doesn't have a plan he will lose - MSL , back then don't know how much he is improved now . Hwasin on the other hand was the best TvZ in 2007 and he is not scared of JD's late game skills . So if JD kills Hwasin in the next round he will most likely demolish Flash too , anyway after 1 week we will see if JD is the GOD OF DESTRUCTION and the legend killer . Man, Flash is way too good, you can't compare him to Hwasin imo. Flash is just smarter than everyone else, that's why he's so good. I really don't care what the statistics say about his TvZ, the guy has the best starcraft mind in the world right now, so I'd put him above Hwasin in every MU. This is like when sAviOr was in his prime, you had to put the guy above everyone else in every MU, even ZvZ. It is pretty cool that you still think that JD is the godly legend killer, you are a loyal fan my friend.. He has definitely been slipping a bit of late though. | ||
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cujo2k
Canada1044 Posts
On June 12 2008 05:52 JoxxOr wrote: Did you even watch pro starcraft when savior played?.. With that comment I'll guess my theory is correct To add my opinion in the OP. I hope he does not win one tournament this year, he is one of the most boring players in the world and I've still not forgiven him for his 2 cheeses against bisu, i hope Karma slices his throat (nah, but...). But in the shape he's in right now it makes me wonder how he could lose in both tournaments. I think he will have an easier run in OSL UNTIL he meets the god of war also known as July. Where he will face his inner demons and get owned like the little baby he really is. In all fanboyism, I think this is a flashback from last year where an old champion (NaDa) all suddenly came back from nowhere to advance to the finals and beat the GOD OF ZERG sAviOr. The difference is that this time it's not NaDa, it's July! So be ready bandwagon guys, Bo5 Flash vs July plix What do you mean.. sAviOr beat NaDa 3-1 in the OSL finals. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On June 12 2008 06:51 cujo2k wrote: What do you mean.. sAviOr beat NaDa 3-1 in the OSL finals. qft and also july is too fat and slow, dont get your hopes up. and how is flash boring? everything he does is perfection | ||
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JoxxOr
Sweden1502 Posts
On June 12 2008 06:51 cujo2k wrote: What do you mean.. sAviOr beat NaDa 3-1 in the OSL finals. Oh sorry, i suck -.- | ||
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anch
United States5457 Posts
How many times do we ever see him use BC in TvT? I voted both MSL and OSL. I dont think he takes it that seriously. | ||
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Sigrun
United States1654 Posts
On June 12 2008 06:04 darktreb wrote: Hwasin's TvZ better than Flash's? Does anyone else here really believe this? Hwasin used to be pretty much good at only one matchup: TvZ. While I know that Flash's TvP and TvT are leagues above Hwasin's, I believe Hwasin's TvZ is on par, if not better then Flash's. Hwasin is 58-29 TvZ (he took Savior in his prime to a game 5) and Flash is 21-11- Flash has less games and an inferior win percentage. I also think that Hwasin's bio control is a lot stronger than Flash's. | ||
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intotherainx
United States504 Posts
On June 12 2008 06:04 darktreb wrote: Hwasin's TvZ better than Flash's? Does anyone else here really believe this? yes | ||
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
Rock #1 | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
On June 12 2008 06:04 darktreb wrote: Hwasin's TvZ better than Flash's? Does anyone else here really believe this? Look at Hwasin's TvZ's VODs after he defeated Savior in Longinus in saviors prime last year. You'll see what we are talking about. | ||
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nimysa
United States383 Posts
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On June 12 2008 08:54 nimysa wrote: Darktreb is a newcomer warcraft player, he deosn't know anything about Hwasin defeating Savior in his prime or about Hwasin's rise to power in the 06' era. Yes I remember Darktreb from the SK forums Hwasin's rise to power in '06, what the hell? He only became a respectable player in early '07. | ||
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G5
United States2898 Posts
osl i think he will win it though even though im hoping for rock ^^ | ||
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
On June 12 2008 09:15 Jyvblamo wrote: Hwasin's rise to power in '06, what the hell? He only became a respectable player in early '07. what ever year savior was dominating is the year hwasin got good. :D | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
On June 12 2008 09:17 G5 wrote: jaedong will knock him out of msl osl i think he will win it though even though im hoping for rock ^^ keep dreaming | ||
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himurakenshin
Canada1845 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
On June 12 2008 10:28 xenero wrote: He could probably lose by being flashy and throw the game that way. I think he has to play Flashy to win | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On June 12 2008 10:11 [GiTM]-Ace wrote: what ever year savior was dominating is the year hwasin got good. :D No one gave a crap about Hwasin until he lost to Savior 2-3 in early 2007. | ||
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
Even though flash is a beast, and there's nobody I can point to who will beat him, I still can't see him winning all three. | ||
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bugblaster007
Canada24 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On June 12 2008 06:32 AnOth3rDAy wrote: Actually Jaedong had troubles beating Flash in standard games even when Jaedong was in his prime. If Jaedong can't pull his tvz shit together he will not even win vs hwasin. And no, hwasins tvz isn't better than flashs. Only reason Jaedong won vs flash on Loki in the Bo5 was coz he played like a fucking miracle, and now he isn't, not vs terran atleast. how did he have troubles? once hive tech was out flash got demolished every game. ya he had fucking scary mid game armies but that was because he sacrificed tech for a shitload of mm and once defilers were out his 4 group mm army with 2 tanks and 2 vessels was pretty useless. flash is the favorite but if jaedong happens to hit his old form (and a couple of recent losses to very good players does not mean that it is gone forever), he could very easily beat flash. | ||
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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iCCup.Trent
Argentina450 Posts
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nerium
Philippines512 Posts
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Seraphim
United States4467 Posts
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
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Wizard
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Darkmole
United States900 Posts
i kinda dont want him to win any leagues right now... Best is gonna win the OSL :D I dont know about the MSL and the Intel i wish some random player wins :D | ||
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MonkeyD.Luffy
United States15 Posts
NaDa will probably always be my favorite player :D | ||
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DennizR
Sweden653 Posts
Even if he does, I still think he will be the best/very very close to the best player for a long time ahead... | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On June 12 2008 06:43 cujo2k wrote: Man, Flash is way too good, you can't compare him to Hwasin imo. Flash is just smarter than everyone else, that's why he's so good. I really don't care what the statistics say about his TvZ, the guy has the best starcraft mind in the world right now, so I'd put him above Hwasin in every MU. This is like when sAviOr was in his prime, you had to put the guy above everyone else in every MU, even ZvZ. It is pretty cool that you still think that JD is the godly legend killer, you are a loyal fan my friend.. He has definitely been slipping a bit of late though. Then show were his TvZ is better then Hwasins ? | ||
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arbiter_md
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noname_
457 Posts
They are way too imbalanced for Zergs. You can`t mutalisk harass effective, the crucial 3rd expo is far away, and hard to defend. JD is the best/one of the bests mechanically nowdays, a real monster. He beat Flash every single straight up game. + Show Spoiler + GSI 1-2 MSL 1-2 OSL 3-1 Total 5-5 The wins of JD were straigh up games, compared to Flash`s wins were cheeses/metal play. If JD can win on these maps, he is far more better than Flash. But can he beat the maps too? I don`t know. | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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oneill
Philippines278 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On June 12 2008 20:20 Raithed wrote: metal is straight up too, whats wrong with metal? it only works on certain maps. colloseum is the only map in the current msl pool that its really viable on (to my knowledge, i dont know athena/tiamat very well) | ||
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HamerD
United Kingdom1922 Posts
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ForAdun
Germany986 Posts
On June 12 2008 20:50 HamerD wrote: So you are doing alright in the estro house then idra? Do you feel you are improving much? How's your confidence levels? And does scrubbing the floors really increase your APM? Sorry that one had to be, you know I'm on your side  | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On June 12 2008 11:16 IdrA wrote: how did he have troubles? once hive tech was out flash got demolished every game. ya he had fucking scary mid game armies but that was because he sacrificed tech for a shitload of mm and once defilers were out his 4 group mm army with 2 tanks and 2 vessels was pretty useless. flash is the favorite but if jaedong happens to hit his old form (and a couple of recent losses to very good players does not mean that it is gone forever), he could very easily beat flash. yeah, thats pretty much what i said. and imo he was saved by the bell with those swarms. nice timing but flash could have pushed faster.. it was intense, not easy. dont forget, flash has become better and better while jaedong hasnt. Thats gotta play some role... | ||
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ZBiR
Poland1092 Posts
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
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noname_
457 Posts
On June 12 2008 20:32 IdrA wrote: it only works on certain maps. colloseum is the only map in the current msl pool that its really viable on (to my knowledge, i dont know athena/tiamat very well) Yes, this is true, but Colosseum is a widely opened map, where as a Terran you can get fast 3 gasses, + min only. The first push must be very strong with nearly a maxed army with upgs, because of the opened center. The other maps don`t fit the metal play. Please chek your pms. | ||
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diggurd
Norway346 Posts
MSL+ Show Spoiler + much, omg those aggressive pylon vs free was so beautiful, i dont think i have seen someone use that so consequent as much. | ||
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anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On June 13 2008 04:15 diggurd wrote: if someone is going to beat flash, its going to be- MSL+ Show Spoiler + much, omg those aggressive pylon vs free was so beautiful, i dont think i have seen someone use that so consequent as much. totaly agree with this he has a good chance in OSL too | ||
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Triskaidecapod
United States18 Posts
On June 13 2008 05:29 anderoo wrote: Flash will be eliminated by Backho LOL I do think he'll win them all! | ||
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Archaic
United States4024 Posts
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
On June 13 2008 05:29 anderoo wrote: Flash will be eliminated by Backho LOL. Backho, OSL champion. Tell me that wouldn't be so funny. | ||
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
United States2869 Posts
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G5
United States2898 Posts
On June 14 2008 05:11 raga4ka wrote: Luxury si gonna kick him out of OSL .... and in MSL there is plenty of force there so it would surpise me if he wins something at all ... | ||
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Tosu
Bulgaria9 Posts
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G5
United States2898 Posts
On June 14 2008 07:42 Tosu wrote: Flash>all if he gets past luxury in this osl I think Flash can take it down as long as he doesn't meet Rock. | ||
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ulszz
Jamaica1787 Posts
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leandroqm
Netherlands874 Posts
On June 11 2008 22:56 IdrA wrote: he has yet to prove he can beat jaedong in a standard game. he beat him in 2 series but his wins were mmf sunken breaks, mech, and baekmagoji. jaedong won all of the biotankvessel vs muta ling lurk into defiler games, won them pretty easily for the most part. flash is better now than he was and jaedong seems a bit worse, but id still say jaedong is a favorite given current maps that favor standard play a bit more. best has a decent shot at him too, with a little luck. Agreed. | ||
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Februarys
Korea (South)259 Posts
Double agreed | ||
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Narrator
United States868 Posts
Probably MSL, because Luxury's about to knock him out! OH YEAH! Luxury fighting!~ | ||
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AnyOne
Chile547 Posts
expo + hiden exp mass sunken into guardian defiler ultralisk mass ROFL obv he wont do that again but was really cool | ||
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