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United States33668 Posts
source: http://www.etnews.co.kr/news/detail.html?id=200803140101
GomTV plans to open their Starleague next month, the Sens GomTV Classic. Samsung Electronics will be their sponsor, putting up a total of 150,000,000 won, with 40,000,000 won prize for the winner.
64 progamers will compete, 32 being taken from progamer rankings, while the other 32 will be selected from a preliminary. GomTV will broadcast from the round of 32 and on using their internet TV service.
GomTV plans to broadcast outside Korea as well, planning to acquire a global broadcasting server in Europe by next month, and also intends to broadcast in English and Japanese by September.
10 of the 12 pro-teams have confirmed their support and participation, so it appears that GomTV will have no troubles in getting their league started.
unsourced stuff and rambling:
KeSPA hasn't officially sanctioned the league, to the best of my understanding. Yet 10 teams have given them the go ahead, so it will still be a significant league. KeSPA has failed to be a respectable organization so far, and some particularly negative people might even say its reputation is laughable.
I doubt the lack of official sanctioning will effect the prestige of this tournament. It's up to GomTV to do their best and make it respectable.
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greattttttttttt, quality SLs with english coverage = sweeeet
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FUCK YEAH!
great news  news price money to
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
YAYYY
<3
i'm glad for the other progamers that never got a chance to qualify and win something
more starleagues is good!! :D:D:D
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10 of the 12? wtf. what are these two teams that havent approved?
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The more individual leagues the better!
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On March 18 2008 07:16 We Are Here wrote:
10 of the 12? wtf. what are these two teams that havent approved?
I'm going to guess Ace and Khan/Soul, purely arbitrarily.
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On March 18 2008 07:21 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2008 07:16 We Are Here wrote:
10 of the 12? wtf. what are these two teams that havent approved? I'm going to guess Ace and Khan/Soul, purely arbitrarily.
I doubt it's Khan since they're sponsoring the event...
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On March 18 2008 07:16 We Are Here wrote:
10 of the 12? wtf. what are these two teams that havent approved?
OGN and MBC. Not arbitrary, the rival broadcasters to GOM who'd rather not see oversaturation of the Starcraft market.
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On March 18 2008 07:16 We Are Here wrote:
10 of the 12? wtf. what are these two teams that havent approved?
ogn, mbc?
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On March 18 2008 07:16 We Are Here wrote:
10 of the 12? wtf. what are these two teams that havent approved?
MBCGame & OGN. Duh!
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Valhalla18444 Posts
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Three indepent posts! That must mean it's true
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
lol thats lame. thats like saying mbc players shouldn't participate in OSL and vice versa -_-a
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On March 18 2008 07:25 GeneralStan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2008 07:16 We Are Here wrote:
10 of the 12? wtf. what are these two teams that havent approved? OGN and MBC. Not arbitrary, the rival broadcasters to GOM who'd rather not see oversaturation of the Starcraft market. lol stupid me ><
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So preliminaries are just like offline qualifiers, right? Which means anyone can qualify? I wish IdrA were in it 
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Sad that the english broadcast seems to begin later, in september thats probably already the second season or so.
But nice league anyway.
Will they have thier own maps?
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this is going to be great!
thanks waxangel for the news!
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so where can we watch msl now?
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If kespa doesn't sanction it, can foreigners try to qualify? Korean amateurs?
I mean, do you need a kespa license for a nonkespa league?
Not sure if I am getting this correctly, btw.
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We have to wait till September? Oh wells, its not like I'm watching live as it is.
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On March 18 2008 07:25 GeneralStan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2008 07:16 We Are Here wrote:
10 of the 12? wtf. what are these two teams that havent approved? OGN and MBC. Not arbitrary, the rival broadcasters to GOM who'd rather not see oversaturation of the Starcraft market.
That is true, but I'd like to see MORE ProLeague games, and I think a 3rd channel via the internet could add more games to the league, from 22 to 33 :D That way we get easily accessible team games via the net and more games to watch! Yay. And this might open the team rosters to more players to show their stuff.
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AND THE SKY RAINS FIRE.
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Japanese? Do japanese even play starcraft?
I think China would be a better choice, although their internet might have troubles with a foreign stream.
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I cant blame OGN and MBC for not joining (yet, maybe), but cmon! They mustve known that theres an audience outside of Korea, and that kind of stuff is bankable! Kudos to to GomTV for reaching out.
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Hmm. The other teams and Kespa will likely back it eventually. But I'm confused. Does this thing start in a month, or is only "official" in a month. As in everything is ready, but the season itself has yet to start? Cause if its starting next month...we will miss out on our English commentaries! Sad. But fuck it, a new league!
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United States22883 Posts
On March 18 2008 07:53 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Japanese? Do japanese even play starcraft?
I think China would be a better choice, although their internet might have troubles with a foreign stream.
That is odd. China is now the #1 internet using country in the world, and most Japanese people still defer to cell phones over computers.
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REACH QUALIFIYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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United States20666 Posts
I would have preferred 32 top ranks and then 32 fan favorites. Even if fan favorites largely got annihilated in ro64, at least SOME would make it to ro32 so we could watch them.
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32 fan favorites is waayyy too many IMO
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Melbourne5338 Posts
YellOw probably wouldn't get invited with any less than 32 spots for fan favourites.
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On March 18 2008 08:35 pachi wrote:
YellOw probably wouldn't get invited with any less than 32 spots for fan favourites.
Before being tragically shut out in the first round >.<
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Woooo, new starleague! I hope Tasteless isn't overworked, because english coverage is awesome! On a somewhat unrelated note, have they said anything about a new map pool? I'm about ready for some new maps.
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There should be the GOM TV ... Bears as another team haha
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Great news... More sc ... its ruining my life 
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Nice to hear they're getting a dedicated server in Europe, was basically impossible for me to watch the GSL live.
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the 32 prelim is probably the new survivor and they merged two leagues?
easier to get a appearance for B team ppl.
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Woo! Sucks though if it really is OGN and MBC. It means no Lux, Sea and Shark.
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64 players is wayyyyy too many players
unless theyre going to follow a completely different format than the usual groups to single elim.
edit: i guess the 64 players will be the gomtv equivalent of survivor or odt
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HonestTea
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That's interesting, but I wonder how they're going to get enough money to keep broadcasting to an international audience in English. Which companies find it worthwhile to pay for advertising time on an international channel that reaches out to 1,000 people between the ages of 16 and 30 scattered around the world?
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It reaches way more than 1,000.
GSI rating were at least 50,000+ weren't they?
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Wow huge tournament and I can't wait.
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man, im going to need a seperate hd JUST for a gsl season or something. ro64 seems pretty long and that's still a heck of alot of vods.
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United States13896 Posts
On March 18 2008 11:55 FuJi wrote:
man, im going to need a seperate hd JUST for a gsl season or something. ro64 seems pretty long and that's still a heck of alot of vods.
note that the OP says coverage will begin from the round of 32 and on.
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this is awesome, the only problem is that now there are 3 big tournaments plus proleague competing for a progamer's practice, energy, and focus.
i think that's too high of a load for a progamer, plus too many conflicting distractions. too bad that proleague is kespa's favorite little pet, because i think it's the most taxing and least prestigious event out of the 3 and i'd like to see proleague get cut so that the pros can focus on the 3 individual leagues.
will never happen though, proleague is so damn popular among the bosses
edit: what do they care, they aren't the ones that have to do the work
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On March 18 2008 11:41 RowdierBob wrote:
It reaches way more than 1,000.
GSI rating were at least 50,000+ weren't they?
I think Tasteless said 50,000+ were on the live stream for the GSI finals, and 500,000+ unique IPs visited the website. I could be wrong, please correct me if I am.
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On March 18 2008 12:21 a-game wrote:this is awesome, the only problem is that now there are 3 big tournaments plus proleague competing for a progamer's practice, energy, and focus. i think that's too high of a load for a progamer, plus too many conflicting distractions. too bad that proleague is kespa's favorite little pet, because i think it's the most taxing and least prestigious event out of the 3 and i'd like to see proleague get cut so that the pros can focus on the 3 individual leagues. will never happen though, proleague is so damn popular among the bosses edit: what do they care, they aren't the ones that have to do the work
It helps that they share many similar maps which allows for practice for all the different things at once. Not to mention very few but the best make it past the early stages in these tournaments (not pro league)
But hey, more starcraft is a good thing no?
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On March 18 2008 12:36 randombum wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2008 12:21 a-game wrote:this is awesome, the only problem is that now there are 3 big tournaments plus proleague competing for a progamer's practice, energy, and focus. i think that's too high of a load for a progamer, plus too many conflicting distractions. too bad that proleague is kespa's favorite little pet, because i think it's the most taxing and least prestigious event out of the 3 and i'd like to see proleague get cut so that the pros can focus on the 3 individual leagues. will never happen though, proleague is so damn popular among the bosses edit: what do they care, they aren't the ones that have to do the work But hey, more starcraft is a good thing no?
not necessarily, it hurts the progamer because they can no longer focus and practice sufficiently on one event, the combination of proleague and any number of individual leagues leads to a huge workload where they are no longer able to play to their best ability due to fatigue and lack of preparation.
it hurts the audience because unlike the old days when if you made it high into an individual league you could practice and prepare and be at your freshest and best for the match, nowadays progamers have to practice for multiple leagues and play in proleague constantly so they arrive at important matches ragged and with only fleeting preparedness. we'll have to settle for whatever they have left in the tank rather than watching them at their best and most prepared.
pretty much the only person who is helped by such an insane workload is the owners who are hitching a ride on the labour of these progamers.
edit: to be clear, i don't mind there being 3 individual leagues, but proleague on top of all that is so much. particularly because in proleague the coaches but a disproportionate amount of pressure on their players to practice harder and perform better because proleague is by far the most prioritized of the events by kespa and the teams that run kespa.
i hate proleague because it doesn't give the players as much of a chance to further their individual careers and because the coaches are so bullish about forcing the players to focus on proleague. i think the quality of games is going to go down a lot as players try to cope with all of this.
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United States33668 Posts
but now there is a true "grand slam" for the first time since the KT-KTF premiere league :O
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Hm, this could really start to decay the average level of progamers due to the workload. At the same time together, GomTV with a starleague is going to be a great deal of fun to watch. Arg, conflicted.
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United States33668 Posts
On March 18 2008 11:38 HonestTea wrote:
Fuck Kespa
speaking of that, you got any insider info involving the situation?
Samsung sponsoring GomTV, Samsung fighting SKT over KeSPA, KeSPA not sanctioning GomTV..... It's pretty goddamn obvious there's a good amount of drama going on behind the scenes, so you want to give us some tidbits, off the record?
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we're going to have stork in all 3 leagues and then being ace in proleague.
poor kids gonna hang himself lol
ad: be nice if they could space all the tournies out a bit somehow
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On March 18 2008 13:57 Waxangel wrote:speaking of that, you got any insider info involving the situation? Samsung sponsoring GomTV, Samsung fighting SKT over KeSPA, KeSPA not sanctioning GomTV..... It's pretty goddamn obvious there's a good amount of drama going on behind the scenes, so you want to give us some tidbits, off the record?
meh nothing really major
remember when progamers went on strike though?
lol
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honesttea should have some insider information right?
He is pretty connected to GSI and tasteless so he might know whats going on.
We just have to figure a way to get him to tell >
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I reckon the GOM league should be like a tennis tournament and be all over in two weeks with games played every day rather than once or twice a week. By getting it over with quickly it wouldn't distract as much, plus the new style/format would be interesting.
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Melbourne5338 Posts
Wouldn't that just screw over anyone that wanted to get far in any of the other leagues at the same time? Not to mention proleague?
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On March 18 2008 15:07 pachi wrote:
Wouldn't that just screw over anyone that wanted to get far in any of the other leagues at the same time? Not to mention proleague?
Well, you would run it in the gaps (like now) rather than at the same time as another league.
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
On March 18 2008 15:38 gravity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2008 15:07 pachi wrote:
Wouldn't that just screw over anyone that wanted to get far in any of the other leagues at the same time? Not to mention proleague? Well, you would run it in the gaps (like now) rather than at the same time as another league.
Progamers can't work all year you know. They need breaks between the seasons.
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I hope they just plan it for earlier in the day than most of the other games (edit: to avoid conflicts, that is). Then I could watch it live and actually get some sleep!
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God i can't handle it anymore. It's seriously getting to the point where I just can't watch all this starcraft. I may have to stop watching proleague altogether.
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United States5262 Posts
imho KeSPA often acts childish with their so called "ownership" of e-Sports. It's really laughable at how poorly they handle situations like these.
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From the sounds of the OP, it doesn't sound like they're planning on giving us english broadcasting right from the start.
That doesn't sound good
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On March 18 2008 07:53 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Japanese? Do japanese even play starcraft?
I think China would be a better choice, although their internet might have troubles with a foreign stream.
Noone answered this, and I wanted to ask the same question. I have never even heard about any japanese playing SC - except for immigrants, but that's another thing. Where's the market in that?
And also, I thought Japan and S. Korea really didn't get along too well...
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Osaka27174 Posts
Zero market. I have met about 10 active gamers in three years. However, NaDa and TossGirl recently came to Japan to promote the game.
About Japan and Korean political relations, what the fuck does that have to do with business and StarCraft?
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On March 18 2008 18:46 Naib wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2008 07:53 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Japanese? Do japanese even play starcraft?
I think China would be a better choice, although their internet might have troubles with a foreign stream. Noone answered this, and I wanted to ask the same question. I have never even heard about any japanese playing SC - except for immigrants, but that's another thing. Where's the market in that? And also, I thought Japan and S. Korea really didn't get along too well...
I don't think many Japanese play broodwar, but regarding the S.Korea and Japan relation, I think there are some people that still hold grudges against each other, but recently I heard they've been getting a long a lot better, and have different(positive) perspectives towards each other.
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On March 18 2008 07:29 Ancestral wrote:So preliminaries are just like offline qualifiers, right? Which means anyone can qualify? I wish IdrA were in it
No offence to you IdrA (if you read this).
I don't think IdrA has the power to qualify through a only-progamer qualifier.. T_T Not yet at least.
Btw: REALLY REALLY AWESOME NEWS
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United States22883 Posts
On March 18 2008 18:51 Manifesto7 wrote:
Zero market. I have met about 10 active gamers in three years. However, NaDa and TossGirl recently came to Japan to promote the game.
About Japan and Korean political relations, what the fuck does that have to do with business and StarCraft?
Well, I've heard that the politics are what turned S. Korea into a computer gaming paradise (no consoles to play), but that's 10+ years ago. D:
I think most Japanese computer gamers play shit like FFXI.
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On March 18 2008 15:43 TheTyranid wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2008 15:38 gravity wrote:On March 18 2008 15:07 pachi wrote:
Wouldn't that just screw over anyone that wanted to get far in any of the other leagues at the same time? Not to mention proleague? Well, you would run it in the gaps (like now) rather than at the same time as another league. Progamers can't work all year you know. They need breaks between the seasons.
Most people work "all year" (more or less). There would still be some holiday time left over.
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United States33668 Posts
well for Japan, I just assume it's going to be other games, and not Starcraft....
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On March 18 2008 14:22 GTR-2-Go wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2008 13:57 Waxangel wrote:On March 18 2008 11:38 HonestTea wrote:
Fuck Kespa speaking of that, you got any insider info involving the situation? Samsung sponsoring GomTV, Samsung fighting SKT over KeSPA, KeSPA not sanctioning GomTV..... It's pretty goddamn obvious there's a good amount of drama going on behind the scenes, so you want to give us some tidbits, off the record? meh nothing really major remember when progamers went on strike though? lol
Wait, progamers went on strike? I'm new to the scene (although I've been playing on and off as a newbie for a decade)
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On March 18 2008 20:51 gravity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2008 15:43 TheTyranid wrote:On March 18 2008 15:38 gravity wrote:On March 18 2008 15:07 pachi wrote:
Wouldn't that just screw over anyone that wanted to get far in any of the other leagues at the same time? Not to mention proleague? Well, you would run it in the gaps (like now) rather than at the same time as another league. Progamers can't work all year you know. They need breaks between the seasons. Most people work "all year" (more or less). There would still be some holiday time left over.
Can't progamers take time off regardless of upcoming events?
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this OWNS
also japanese + starcraft = ?
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EPT
