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On February 15 2008 04:48 Carnac wrote:I never said that it wasn't impressive, but you cannot by any means (especially when talking all time) be considered the most dominant player, when you still lack titles, which Jaedong does. That just doesn't work. There's much more to it than just an ELO score, but I'm sure you know that 
Titles will come with Jaedong taking both the MSL and OSL 
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The scoring system also changed, but he should be able to reach it sometime even with a couple of losses. And he has to be bonjwa to be considered better than savior
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Like most people, I believe Jaedong can go all the way. He is extremely dominant right now and I don't think he is done becuase he has that look and aura of confidence and invincibility. A triple title would be sick though.
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Might be worth pointing out that having Elo in the title of the thread is a borderline spoiler, since people have been watching Jaedong's Elo soar lately and it only makes much sense to have a new thread about it if he passed another threshold, which would necessitate beating Flash.
Given how dominant Jaedong looks at the moment (I view how "close" the MSL series was as WTF Flash is better than I thought more than Jaedong being mortal), I'm pretty confident he's going to pass oov's peak. He may not do it this month, but with the way he's winning, I don't think he'll be stopped for quite some time.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
i was weary of that when i created the title, but it still leaves alot up in the air
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I hope not!
iloveoov forever!
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it will be a tough one for jaedong but i think he can do it.
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IMO this spoiled the results for me. I knew jaedong was close to getting the highest ELO, so what else could it mean? Please put more thought into your title next time.
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On February 15 2008 05:16 3nickma wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2008 04:48 Carnac wrote:I never said that it wasn't impressive, but you cannot by any means (especially when talking all time) be considered the most dominant player, when you still lack titles, which Jaedong does. That just doesn't work. There's much more to it than just an ELO score, but I'm sure you know that Titles will come with Jaedong taking both the MSL and OSL
BTW where is the "Of Course" option? Yes, plainly put doesn't sum it up well.
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On February 15 2008 07:21 HotZhot wrote:
BTW where is the "Of Course" option? Yes, plainly put doesn't sum it up well.
The problem with the "Of Course" option is Jaedong is 67 points ahead of the #2 Elo right now. Even when you win 90% of your games, your rating doesn't go up much playing people that far below you.
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Jaedong will never, ever, have 3 MSL wins and 3 OSL wins. I think his ELO is somewhat inflated too with the huge amounts of games everyone is playing. However, it is indisputable that he is currently the most dominant player out there.
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United States900 Posts
does points make u that dominant? cuz kespa ranking matters the most and Boxer had the Kespa for 18 month and Jaedong would only get the Kespa ranking for maybe less than 10 month
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I think he could surpass oov's elo if he wins star invitational - there are plenty of amazing players there. Scoring the best of them might do the trick. ^________^V
JAEDONG FIGHTING!
PS Being an all time NaDa fan I actually can't tell whom I want to win in JaeDong vs NaDa matchup. JaeDong's play is just so inspiring currently. :O
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Elo is a measure of skill not of dominance
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yes
i dont see him suddenly dropping another game or two because of oov
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i voted no because i hate jaedong :D
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United States20661 Posts
You do realize the title is a spoiler, right? Because there's no way a Flash win would inspire anyone to care about elo, whereas people have been talking about Jaedong's rising elo for awhile.
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how much elo will he drop if he lose a bo5 in osl or msl? cant he still make it if he loses? just win some more after that?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
if someone wants to change the title go ahead
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
Jaedong could have had a good chance of beating Oov's elo peak if he didn't loose that game to Best.
His loss against best took hin down 10 elo pts (2285 to 2275 about). If he did win that game vs Best he would be around 2315. The loss agains Flash is legitimate but the former was really lame. If he played standard he would have trounced Best as hard as in their tiebreaker game on Katrina.
To beat Oov he'll need to:
2-0 Flash in OSL
3-0 his Gom group
Beat Frozean in Proleague
I have a big suspicion that Flash will take a game off of JD. With each loss JD will need more and more wins to surpass teh peak for losses take off more points than wins add points.
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