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CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
604 Posts
April 23 2026 06:51 GMT
#281
too many BO7 = too many games imo. BO5 is enough for the better player to win.

BO7 shows full preparation, and if you have it in RO8 then players have less special builds to show in RO4 and finals
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51072 Posts
April 23 2026 06:55 GMT
#282
On April 23 2026 15:11 M2 wrote:
Do we realize that either Leta or Tulbo will be seeded for the next ASL xD


whoever wins deserves it, they made it that far.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines717 Posts
April 23 2026 07:14 GMT
#283
i preferred older format of all bo7 for ro8 and above
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8902 Posts
April 23 2026 07:18 GMT
#284
LB is up! Don't forget to vote !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
April 23 2026 09:14 GMT
#285
On April 23 2026 16:14 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
i preferred older format of all bo7 for ro8 and above

Same.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1263 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-23 11:08:25
April 23 2026 11:07 GMT
#286
if we had Bo5 in the previous seasons we would have had a different champion for ASL19.

in ASL19 Queen would have beaten Best in ro8 3-1 and Best would not have made it to the finals. And these Best vs Queen and Best vs Light sets are widely considered 2 of the best sets in ASL history.

If we still had bo5 semi SnOw would have defeated Soulkey 3-2 in ASL19 Semifinals and would likely have been the champion.


JDON MY SOUL!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3228 Posts
April 23 2026 11:31 GMT
#287
I only care about the better player going forward so if I could I would introduce Bo9 to every knockout round lol. Higher sample size = better accuracy to the results.

The only valid reasons for smaller Bo are organisation purposes and player fatigue
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
April 23 2026 12:05 GMT
#288
Bo3 rewards prep and luck
Bo5 rewards prep
Bo7 rewards prep and stamina
Bo9 forget it, these dudes are too old for that

Bo5/Bo7 makes you show your hand early, it sucks when you have to play the same match up back to back. It helped Larva get his gold.
FBH #1!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51611 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-23 12:17:15
April 23 2026 12:17 GMT
#289
i think they needed to bring back bo5 for the quarter finals because it was just weird going from bo3's straight to bo7's with nothing in between
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Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines717 Posts
April 23 2026 14:01 GMT
#290
On April 23 2026 21:05 Peeano wrote:
Bo3 rewards prep and luck
Bo5 rewards prep
Bo7 rewards prep and stamina
Bo9 forget it, these dudes are too old for that

Bo5/Bo7 makes you show your hand early, it sucks when you have to play the same match up back to back. It helped Larva get his gold.


i wouldn’t say their too old for bo9, they play ultimate battle every week which is basically a bo9 that goes to the final game every set. in asl there would be ad breaks too, but in UBE its pretty much all in one go
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
m4ch1n1cd351r3
Profile Joined October 2020
19 Posts
April 23 2026 14:48 GMT
#291
Disappointed not to have Rain, Sharp, or Royal moving on. Minus soma, all my favorite players are out.

Splendid play from Jaedong, some of the best Starcraft I can remember seeing. Inspiring.

That being said, ZvZzzzz and Leta vs YSChuttulbeyewater are not really piquing the interest too much. Only really intrigued by Light vs Jaedong. Wonder if Light will play any pure SK Terran or not.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1263 Posts
April 23 2026 16:16 GMT
#292
On April 23 2026 23:48 m4ch1n1cd351r3 wrote:
Disappointed not to have Rain, Sharp, or Royal moving on. Minus soma, all my favorite players are out.

Splendid play from Jaedong, some of the best Starcraft I can remember seeing. Inspiring.

That being said, ZvZzzzz and Leta vs YSChuttulbeyewater are not really piquing the interest too much. Only really intrigued by Light vs Jaedong. Wonder if Light will play any pure SK Terran or not.



FlaSH vs SnOw???
JDON MY SOUL!
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
April 23 2026 16:35 GMT
#293
Jaedong getting Light twice in a row in the Ro8 is so unlucky :|
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Kanzzer
Profile Joined October 2025
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-23 17:13:55
April 23 2026 17:05 GMT
#294
On April 22 2026 18:28 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Jaedong vs Light is Light favored and i give JD the lowest odds to make it to Ro4.
SnOw vs FlaSh is SnOw favored, but by a hair. In online SnOw has played the best vs FlaSh by a mile compared to everyone else. But maybe Flash's offline killer instincts actually give him an edge. Cant call this one. Flash has a negative online winrate vs only 2 players since his return. SnOw at 42%, and Light at 28%, but vs Light the Sample size is too small to be statistically relevant. This makes SnOw the one real threat to FlaSh.

I pulled head to head record between JD & Light from eloboard

Light vs JD
7 Neo Sylphid 2 (these may include older games)
3 Knockout 3
0 Match Point 1
3 Attitude 2
1 Octagon 3
2 Jane Doe 1
5 Polestar 3 (these may include older games)

Light vs JD Bo7 set on StarcastTV played on March 11


+ Show Spoiler +

Light took Sylphid, Polestar (close spawn 8 rax) & Jane Doe

JD took Octagon, Attitude (close spawn 5 pool), Match Point & Knockout (unpunished close spawn 12 Hatch)

JD won 4-3


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SnOw and FlaSh from eloboard

SnOw vs FlaSh
1 Neo Sylphid 0
0 Knockout 1
1 Death Valley 0
2 Deja Vu 1
2 Dominator 2
5 Radeon 4
1 Match Point 0
3 Metropolis 1
0 Kickback 1
0 Pantheon 1
1 Polestar 1

StarcastTV record (timestamp 22:23 & 1:10:51)


+ Show Spoiler +

SnOw vs FlaSh
L Jane Doe W
W Octagon L (DT rush)


Both matchups I think are really neck and neck. Both could go either way to be honest.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8098 Posts
April 23 2026 17:44 GMT
#295
On April 23 2026 15:11 M2 wrote:
Do we realize that either Leta or Tulbo will be seeded for the next ASL xD

That’s quite funny
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey715 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-23 18:23:19
April 23 2026 18:23 GMT
#296
I think there is a fine balance of self confidence vs. reckless aggression of players and those in the middle fare better. I see Soma's 4-pool the same as Speed's insane early game cheeses. Jaedong and Light both intimidate players and push the game into the end game, however I find Light to be boxed in. You could also consider Boxer the best of what he does.
I also dislike Bo7. Bo7 lets you switch the meta and literally play with no opening in mind. This let many defending champions fare better than their contemporary form by playing the series like 1v1 KCM race survival series. This only works if they met the first time. If they know their styles, they run out of openings. If they have a Bo7, it should be a Bo5 next time. Bo3 the one after if they meet at 3 Ro4's in succession.
Turrican
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2140 Posts
April 24 2026 05:31 GMT
#297
I find the Ro8 matches super hard to call this season. Let's hope that means we get some close series!
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
604 Posts
April 24 2026 06:11 GMT
#298
lower half of bracket is another group of death

every match could be a finals
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey715 Posts
April 24 2026 07:12 GMT
#299
On April 24 2026 14:31 Simplistik wrote:
I find the Ro8 matches super hard to call this season. Let's hope that means we get some close series!

I have deep respect to anyone calling anything before, or after Ro24 this season. This season's map pool has stripped me of any and all assumptions.
Turrican
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-24 08:11:22
April 24 2026 08:09 GMT
#300
This season is truly special. like Flash and Jaedong both on the r08 as well as two underdogs tulbo and leta in it

Tulbo or Leta is gonna make it to the semi finals lmao that's gonna be fun

flash vs snow and jd vs light sounds really really fun.

On April 23 2026 15:55 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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On April 23 2026 15:11 M2 wrote:
Do we realize that either Leta or Tulbo will be seeded for the next ASL xD


whoever wins deserves it, they made it that far.


Indeed they did. They played their heart out and beat the shit out of others. If others were better they wouldnt have won
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