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[Contest] Macro King - Reaching population limit

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Overlord
Profile Joined May 2003
Romania651 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-02 14:28:45
December 27 2007 22:28 GMT
#1
Hi!

Some years ago Sclegacy held a similar contest, where the goal was to reach the 200/200 population limit as fast as possible. The map was Lost Temple, the records back then were the following:

Zerg - Tessai 9:45
Terran - Beast 8:58
Protoss - l.y.forever 8:36

I've recently held a similar contest at replays.hu, this time Tau Cross was used. Probably due to map difference, all the previous records were broken:

Zerg - tA-r.skyline 9:31
Terran - Overlord[uUc] 8:48
Protoss - Overlord[uUc] 8:31

Can you beat those? The rules are the following:

-You can use any starting position on Tau Cross 1.1. Please use only this version (you can download it from here http://sc.replays.hu/maps.php?dl=398 ) to avoid eventual differences between different versions. So please no WGT or ICCUP versions.
-Use fastest speed on multiplayer. In order to avoid the computer bugging you, close the computer slot during the countdown.
-The time that counts is the one shown in the replay, when the population counter shows 200/200.
-If you managed to broke one of the records, prove it by uploading the replay. I will update this post with the current records.

Current records:
Zerg - deekin 9:31
Terran - deekin 8:45
Protoss - wonders 8:22
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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
December 27 2007 22:31 GMT
#2
Is there a way to verify the contest participants are using fastest speed rather than normal or slower? If it's just replays unless the result is something like 800 APM how would we know?
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51707 Posts
December 27 2007 22:36 GMT
#3
are you allowed to use oblivion?
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 27 2007 22:43 GMT
#4
On December 28 2007 07:31 NovaTheFeared wrote:
Is there a way to verify the contest participants are using fastest speed rather than normal or slower? If it's just replays unless the result is something like 800 APM how would we know?


In the game lobby of the replay, doesnt it say "game speed" on the right side under map preview?
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Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
December 27 2007 22:46 GMT
#5
On December 28 2007 07:36 GTR-2-Go wrote:
are you allowed to use oblivion?


Isn't that called hacking?
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waavves
Profile Joined October 2007
United States188 Posts
December 27 2007 22:46 GMT
#6
On December 28 2007 07:43 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
In the game lobby of the replay, doesnt it say "game speed" on the right side under map preview?


Yeah it does, and I believe it runs the replay at whatever speed the game was played at.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
December 27 2007 22:53 GMT
#7
not only that but the time counts up at a fixed rate

so a game played on slowest that looks to have lasted 10 minutes will show like 40 on the replay timer
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-28 02:59:55
December 27 2007 23:13 GMT
#8
oh, this seems like fun! Let's get the theorycrafting going!

I just tried with zerg, building only drones and got an embarrasing 10.54 at the first try. Maybe you want to tech up to ultras or something to get more supply per larva? Or go drones but excecute better? What is the best method to use?

EDIT: 9.06 with protoss. 5 nexus into around 10 gateways zealots. I think it is important to get the maynards perfect.
EDIT2: I'm did two more runs with zerg and i got 10.09 and 10.12 with drones only.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
December 27 2007 23:24 GMT
#9
as far as i know, only drones were built...
but there were close results with ultra and muta(!) builds in this contest.
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skzlime
Profile Joined July 2005
Hungary462 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-27 23:34:17
December 27 2007 23:33 GMT
#10
just some pieces of advice; you can play without an opponent by creating a multiplayer game and closing the comp during countdown (you will have to press continue at the beginning tho), and don't altq as soon as you reach 200/200, as replays cut off precious fragments of a second from the game, so you might end up not reaching the limit in the replay
edit: I see it's already been mentioned in the OP, sorry
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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
December 27 2007 23:37 GMT
#11
does it matter what you mass?
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BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
December 27 2007 23:38 GMT
#12
how do you think?
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
December 27 2007 23:40 GMT
#13
On December 28 2007 08:33 deekin wrote:
just some pieces of advice; you can play without an opponent by creating a multiplayer game and closing the comp during countdown (you will have to press continue at the beginning tho), and don't altq as soon as you reach 200/200, as replays cut off precious fragments of a second from the game, so you might end up not reaching the limit in the replay
edit: I see it's already been mentioned in the OP, sorry


deekin, did you use only drones, right?
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p4fn2w
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
401 Posts
December 27 2007 23:49 GMT
#14
You should use only overlords.
Overlord
Profile Joined May 2003
Romania651 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-28 00:05:59
December 27 2007 23:50 GMT
#15
It doesn't matter which units you use. For zerg theoretically ultras have the best building time / supply ratio, and they were actually used by Pezsmapatkany in getting the same time as deekin (tA-r.skyline). Of course using Oblivion is out of question, I guess it was meant to be a joke.
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ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
December 27 2007 23:58 GMT
#16
On December 28 2007 08:50 Overlord wrote:
Doesn't matter which units do you use. For zerg theoretically ultras have the best building time / supply ratio, and they were actually used by Pezsmapatkany in getting the same time as deekin (tA-r.skyline). Of course using Oblivion is out of question, I guess it was meant to be a joke.


I'm sorry, but I couldn't help but look for your location after reading your last sentence. Before I even looked, I knew you were from that land :o
Overlord
Profile Joined May 2003
Romania651 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-28 00:07:55
December 28 2007 00:07 GMT
#17
Nvm. I read first sentence, not last.
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Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-28 00:23:04
December 28 2007 00:10 GMT
#18
wo how the fuck did he manage 8:36, with toss. Best I could do was 9:20. Will keep trying though ofc ;D!

edit: an improvment of 9:12 but bleh's fast that boy!
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Doctorasul
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
December 28 2007 01:42 GMT
#19
On December 28 2007 08:58 ilovezil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2007 08:50 Overlord wrote:
Doesn't matter which units do you use. For zerg theoretically ultras have the best building time / supply ratio, and they were actually used by Pezsmapatkany in getting the same time as deekin (tA-r.skyline). Of course using Oblivion is out of question, I guess it was meant to be a joke.


I'm sorry, but I couldn't help but look for your location after reading your last sentence. Before I even looked, I knew you were from that land :o

Dammit, when will TL realize that we Romanians are being sarcastic when we're pretending not to get sarcasm. So the joke is actually on you! See the irony? Or are you also being sarcastic by pretending you don't know we are?
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ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-28 01:50:29
December 28 2007 01:50 GMT
#20
On December 28 2007 10:42 Doctorasul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2007 08:58 ilovezil wrote:
On December 28 2007 08:50 Overlord wrote:
Doesn't matter which units do you use. For zerg theoretically ultras have the best building time / supply ratio, and they were actually used by Pezsmapatkany in getting the same time as deekin (tA-r.skyline). Of course using Oblivion is out of question, I guess it was meant to be a joke.


I'm sorry, but I couldn't help but look for your location after reading your last sentence. Before I even looked, I knew you were from that land :o

Dammit, when will TL realize that we Romanians are being sarcastic when we're pretending not to get sarcasm. So the joke is actually on you! See the irony? Or are you also being sarcastic by pretending you don't know we are?


Nope, I didn't know.

EDIT: I was being sarcastic, of course.
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