EPTOn April 10 2025 20:56 Highgamer wrote:
I agree that misogyny (dislike/hate of women) is not what's on display in the female leagues. You must have a radical ideology to think that.
I don't know what they are saying in those streams, but it also doesn't seem to be a sexist show in general ("haha, women can't play video games"), at least that doesn't seem to be the main theme (the contrary rather) but might show up in the commentary/post-game scolding, and mostly in chat commentary presumably.
edit: On second thought: In that picture below, the whole placement (women in back, guys in front), the chatter distribution (95% guys) is really awkward for western eyes. I want to be careful and not universalize my views too much but it's hard to watch sometimes.
Over-the-top political ideologies might still stem from good, more differenciated sociological or cultural observations though.
SK has really big problems with sexism (like most countries, to different degrees), noone should deny that.
But if I think of that and SOOP, then these shows come to mind with 1-2 (male) hosts and dozens of generic model-beauties sitting around passively until they're allowed to stand up and do some moves. They chose to be there, surely, but the whole thing is just a disgrace to exist.
I agree that misogyny (dislike/hate of women) is not what's on display in the female leagues. You must have a radical ideology to think that.
I don't know what they are saying in those streams, but it also doesn't seem to be a sexist show in general ("haha, women can't play video games"), at least that doesn't seem to be the main theme (the contrary rather) but might show up in the commentary/post-game scolding, and mostly in chat commentary presumably.
edit: On second thought: In that picture below, the whole placement (women in back, guys in front), the chatter distribution (95% guys) is really awkward for western eyes. I want to be careful and not universalize my views too much but it's hard to watch sometimes.
Over-the-top political ideologies might still stem from good, more differenciated sociological or cultural observations though.
SK has really big problems with sexism (like most countries, to different degrees), noone should deny that.
But if I think of that and SOOP, then these shows come to mind with 1-2 (male) hosts and dozens of generic model-beauties sitting around passively until they're allowed to stand up and do some moves. They chose to be there, surely, but the whole thing is just a disgrace to exist.
It is more so the traditional teacher-student hirarchy that is still very very strong in Korea. A superior has all the power in the power dynamic in Korea, and all the subordinate can do is nod and agree. It is the social norm of power distribution. In my country its unheard of and unacceptable. It would immediately be considered abuse of power and get a person fired or investigated and sued. My uni profs(for the international class) literally told the class "we consider you, the students, our colleagues and our equals, so dont worry about adressing us casually by our first names, dont worry about asking any questions or questioning whether what we are saying is correct." completely different cultural environment. Experienced similar things at businesses and my own.
