EPTASL19(Formerly SSL Spring 2025) Announced - Page 3
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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Miragee
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On March 07 2025 01:06 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: saw some deathvalley games between pros on ladder. matches were cheese gambles and onesided. Sigh, I feel like the pros don't even try anymore. I'm not saying a map like death valley isn't bad I just don't feel like anyone is giving an unconventional map a fair shake first. In today's day and age, an unconventional map gets released, then played for a handful of games on ladder until everyone blocks it from their pool. In ASL you can veto the map forever because the map pool is larger than the sets. Strategies need some time to develop and most maps these days don't ever get closed to a state of being "figured out". If there are no solid strategies yet, cheese/allins/gambles are favoured. While I understand that it might not be fun for many of the pros, from my perspective as a spectator, I see the benefits of the Kespa days in this regard, that forced many more games on any given map because they couldn't be vetoed forever and stakes were a lot higher so people had to practice them. This way we at least saw how maps would play out once they were figured out and some of them indeed turned out to be trash but not every map. | ||
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felleN
Australia95 Posts
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Nambona890
Australia32 Posts
But the official date is 24th of March, 2025. ch.sooplive.co.kr | ||
GTR
51610 Posts
Hello fans who love ASL. Last fall, we changed the league name from ASL to SSL, but we felt once again that the name ‘ASL’, which we have been with for a long time, is deeply entrenched in the hearts of our fans. Many people still called us ASL, and we also realized that ASL is not just a league name, but a precious symbol containing the tradition and memories of the past 9 years. After much deliberation, we decided to change the league name back to ASL. We decided that it was more important to preserve the history and identity of the league, and we would like to create more moments with our fans under the name ASL in the future. ASL will start again with Season 19. ASL will continue to develop further together with our fans and streamers. We ask for your continued interest and support. Thank you. | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey791 Posts
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ImbaTosS
United Kingdom1717 Posts
On March 07 2025 17:51 GTR wrote: machine translation of why they changed their name back I quite like that. Hopefully they bin off the uncanny valley horror of that AI theme song while they're at it. Definitely I feel in two minds about the maps situation. It wasn't fun seeing half-baked strategies, cheeses, or auto-losses from a player who just doesn't get the map enough. A world in which they were really grinding to figure these maps out would be a more interesting one, potentially. But that's not the time we're living in and I'd prefer better games, given the option. | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1025 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4267 Posts
On March 07 2025 00:42 Mutaller wrote: I was a death valley hater, I now like the 1.0 version. I think the map was not ready for competition as quickly as the standard new maps. My prediction is that death valley will be played about 10 times this season, compared to Monty Hall and 76 that got played 6 and 7 times. It will be played maximum of 3 times. If even that. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4267 Posts
On March 07 2025 01:20 Miragee wrote: Sigh, I feel like the pros don't even try anymore. I'm not saying a map like death valley isn't bad I just don't feel like anyone is giving an unconventional map a fair shake first. In today's day and age, an unconventional map gets released, then played for a handful of games on ladder until everyone blocks it from their pool. In ASL you can veto the map forever because the map pool is larger than the sets. Strategies need some time to develop and most maps these days don't ever get closed to a state of being "figured out". If there are no solid strategies yet, cheese/allins/gambles are favoured. While I understand that it might not be fun for many of the pros, from my perspective as a spectator, I see the benefits of the Kespa days in this regard, that forced many more games on any given map because they couldn't be vetoed forever and stakes were a lot higher so people had to practice them. This way we at least saw how maps would play out once they were figured out and some of them indeed turned out to be trash but not every map. Yeah, fully agreed. It really is a bummer. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10470 Posts
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Miragee
8671 Posts
On March 07 2025 17:51 GTR wrote: machine translation of why they changed their name back Damn, that's something I didn't expect. I like it! On March 07 2025 20:32 ImbaTosS wrote: I quite like that. Hopefully they bin off the uncanny valley horror of that AI theme song while they're at it. Definitely I feel in two minds about the maps situation. It wasn't fun seeing half-baked strategies, cheeses, or auto-losses from a player who just doesn't get the map enough. A world in which they were really grinding to figure these maps out would be a more interesting one, potentially. But that's not the time we're living in and I'd prefer better games, given the option. Yeah, that's a fair take given the circumstances. I still feel frustrated at times because I think about what could be and needed to voice it. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10470 Posts
On March 07 2025 01:20 Miragee wrote: Sigh, I feel like the pros don't even try anymore. I'm not saying a map like death valley isn't bad I just don't feel like anyone is giving an unconventional map a fair shake first. In today's day and age, an unconventional map gets released, then played for a handful of games on ladder until everyone blocks it from their pool. In ASL you can veto the map forever because the map pool is larger than the sets. Strategies need some time to develop and most maps these days don't ever get closed to a state of being "figured out". If there are no solid strategies yet, cheese/allins/gambles are favoured. While I understand that it might not be fun for many of the pros, from my perspective as a spectator, I see the benefits of the Kespa days in this regard, that forced many more games on any given map because they couldn't be vetoed forever and stakes were a lot higher so people had to practice them. This way we at least saw how maps would play out once they were figured out and some of them indeed turned out to be trash but not every map. This is my issue with how ASL is set up too. The fact that they axed Death Valley from the rotation in proleague after only like a week was really disappointing. | ||
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ThunderJunk
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1263 Posts
edit: challonge someone? | ||
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HOLYBATS
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End1ess
Canada77 Posts
Best vs Art https://play.sooplive.co.kr/afstar1/282003416 | ||
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HOLYBATS
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FlaShFTW
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