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Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
March 03 2025 03:53 GMT
#21
On March 03 2025 08:19 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2025 00:18 TMNT wrote:
By the way I haven't followed the scene that much lately but apparently Kal has returned to SC after like what...? since Kespa? He's streaming since February and obviously, joined a SC university.

His stream: https://ch.sooplive.co.kr/kkaaqq


kal has definitely streamed since kespa but never committed fully to it. i'd say he popped up for a bit around the time remastered came out.

also bisu is active, just not streaming. artosis has been casting his recent ladder games on his youtube channel lately.

ArtosisCasts are reminiscent of Day9 dailies for me: daily Starcraft content with a healthy mix of scene updates, strategy discussion, and comedy.

I hope he does secondary "casts" of SSL games, if he's allowed, to do deeper dives into strategy / metagame for this season. He's so good at that. The only thing he might be better at is playing through SKRAAAAAAAAA on stream.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
spets1
Profile Joined November 2009
97 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-03 10:18:06
March 03 2025 10:17 GMT
#22
Yessaas let's goooo

Is flash out for sure?

Hyped!!!

And if anyone can cast qualifiers or provide links to games would be awesome 😎😎👍
You were wrong before, what makes you think you're right now
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2282 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-04 04:08:08
March 04 2025 04:06 GMT
#23
Preditions for SSL Spring 2025:

best protoss runner is going to lose to some zerg doing all in/hidra bs in a BoX series.


....

thats it.
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13290 Posts
March 04 2025 12:48 GMT
#24
Bleh Flash has gone soft. He’s so worried about losing that he doesn’t play.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia933 Posts
March 04 2025 14:19 GMT
#25
That's how he also was on his first return, though. Only signed up when he felt like he was going to win.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey745 Posts
March 04 2025 14:50 GMT
#26
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 04 2025 17:49 GMT
#27
No FlaSh really sucks. I don't know what's going on, if he really has wrist issues that need surgery. Maybe he's going to retire? I just don't get why you would practice many months just to not play on main stage...
sunbeams are never made like me...
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8141 Posts
March 04 2025 22:51 GMT
#28
On March 03 2025 00:18 TMNT wrote:
By the way I haven't followed the scene that much lately but apparently Kal has returned to SC after like what...? since Kespa? He's streaming since February and obviously, joined a SC university.

His stream: https://ch.sooplive.co.kr/kkaaqq


So awesome, Kal was my fav protoss during the kespa era. How is he doing so far?
Free Palestine
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2282 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-05 05:33:15
March 05 2025 05:22 GMT
#29
On March 05 2025 02:49 outscar wrote:
No FlaSh really sucks. I don't know what's going on, if he really has wrist issues that need surgery. Maybe he's going to retire? I just don't get why you would practice many months just to not play on main stage...


in flashes shoes theres a lot to be considered, i mean, tbh if he is qualifies and fucking sucks completly during the tour his image and aura of invencibility insta fades, not only that but, if u really wanna win a tour like ssl u have to prepare, invest time to practice/study, review vods, and who knows what else flash does during practice.. imagine all that shit + pain...
not worth the effort imo.

Mb it is -EV to play the tour and actually +EV to just stream, make content during the event, just play daily proleagues and not over stress his arm... and if i was korean i would totally prefer watching ssl tru flashs stream (cause of his analysis) than a regular caster.

also my boi is already a rich mofo so, no need for that prize money.
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3013 Posts
March 05 2025 11:08 GMT
#30
On March 05 2025 07:51 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2025 00:18 TMNT wrote:
By the way I haven't followed the scene that much lately but apparently Kal has returned to SC after like what...? since Kespa? He's streaming since February and obviously, joined a SC university.

His stream: https://ch.sooplive.co.kr/kkaaqq


So awesome, Kal was my fav protoss during the kespa era. How is he doing so far?

Not very well. He's basically just a 2300-2400 mmr player. Can't even beat Leta. He does learn and play modern style though. Made 5 6 Shuttle every game vs Terran just like Best but the execution and map awareness nowhere near.
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1303 Posts
March 05 2025 11:50 GMT
#31
So there is no crazy / experimental map in the pool this time, or am I missing something?
Someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4225 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-05 13:27:36
March 05 2025 13:27 GMT
#32
On March 05 2025 20:50 Chosi wrote:
So there is no crazy / experimental map in the pool this time, or am I missing something?

Players don't want any of that stuff anymore. And they have all the leverage. I think from now on we will only get various flavours of bog-standard maps.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4225 Posts
March 05 2025 13:28 GMT
#33
On March 04 2025 21:48 RowdierBob wrote:
Bleh Flash has gone soft. He’s so worried about losing that he doesn’t play.

I think he has some wrist issues. Not feeling he's at his current 100%. Probably that's why he doesn't want to play.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-05 14:57:00
March 05 2025 14:54 GMT
#34
On March 05 2025 20:08 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2025 07:51 Ideas wrote:
On March 03 2025 00:18 TMNT wrote:
By the way I haven't followed the scene that much lately but apparently Kal has returned to SC after like what...? since Kespa? He's streaming since February and obviously, joined a SC university.

His stream: https://ch.sooplive.co.kr/kkaaqq


So awesome, Kal was my fav protoss during the kespa era. How is he doing so far?

Not very well. He's basically just a 2300-2400 mmr player. Can't even beat Leta. He does learn and play modern style though. Made 5 6 Shuttle every game vs Terran just like Best but the execution and map awareness nowhere near.

I have seen Kal's blizzard ID on ladder since early 2023. I dont think he can get into shape to compete anymore. He should be capable of getting top 10 ladder minimum if he wants to be capable of even competing for qualifier semi finals. Never seen that ID get over rank 80-100
JDON MY SOUL!
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1303 Posts
March 05 2025 15:38 GMT
#35
On March 05 2025 22:27 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2025 20:50 Chosi wrote:
So there is no crazy / experimental map in the pool this time, or am I missing something?

Players don't want any of that stuff anymore. And they have all the leverage. I think from now on we will only get various flavours of bog-standard maps.


Don't get me wrong, I am with the players on this one it seems. Thanks for the rationale.
Someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4225 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-06 09:04:03
March 06 2025 09:03 GMT
#36
On March 06 2025 00:38 Chosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2025 22:27 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On March 05 2025 20:50 Chosi wrote:
So there is no crazy / experimental map in the pool this time, or am I missing something?

Players don't want any of that stuff anymore. And they have all the leverage. I think from now on we will only get various flavours of bog-standard maps.


Don't get me wrong, I am with the players on this one it seems. Thanks for the rationale.

Meh.. 1 semi-standard and 1 crazy out of 7 would add a good and reasonable amount of spice, methinks.
But whatever, it is what it is.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66356 Posts
March 06 2025 13:11 GMT
#37
On March 06 2025 18:03 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2025 00:38 Chosi wrote:
On March 05 2025 22:27 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On March 05 2025 20:50 Chosi wrote:
So there is no crazy / experimental map in the pool this time, or am I missing something?

Players don't want any of that stuff anymore. And they have all the leverage. I think from now on we will only get various flavours of bog-standard maps.


Don't get me wrong, I am with the players on this one it seems. Thanks for the rationale.

Meh.. 1 semi-standard and 1 crazy out of 7 would add a good and reasonable amount of spice, methinks.
But whatever, it is what it is.

even on other leagues like race battle and ultimate battle, they've been getting banned every. SINGLE. time.

kinda sucks as a fan but WCYD
POGGERS
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8141 Posts
March 06 2025 14:03 GMT
#38
On March 06 2025 22:11 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2025 18:03 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On March 06 2025 00:38 Chosi wrote:
On March 05 2025 22:27 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On March 05 2025 20:50 Chosi wrote:
So there is no crazy / experimental map in the pool this time, or am I missing something?

Players don't want any of that stuff anymore. And they have all the leverage. I think from now on we will only get various flavours of bog-standard maps.


Don't get me wrong, I am with the players on this one it seems. Thanks for the rationale.

Meh.. 1 semi-standard and 1 crazy out of 7 would add a good and reasonable amount of spice, methinks.
But whatever, it is what it is.

even on other leagues like race battle and ultimate battle, they've been getting banned every. SINGLE. time.

kinda sucks as a fan but WCYD


They played on Monty Hall and 76 though, what gives? Was playing on Monty Hall for that long the final straw? Or is Death Valley just considered exceptionally bad?
Free Palestine
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8141 Posts
March 06 2025 14:06 GMT
#39
On March 05 2025 23:54 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2025 20:08 TMNT wrote:
On March 05 2025 07:51 Ideas wrote:
On March 03 2025 00:18 TMNT wrote:
By the way I haven't followed the scene that much lately but apparently Kal has returned to SC after like what...? since Kespa? He's streaming since February and obviously, joined a SC university.

His stream: https://ch.sooplive.co.kr/kkaaqq


So awesome, Kal was my fav protoss during the kespa era. How is he doing so far?

Not very well. He's basically just a 2300-2400 mmr player. Can't even beat Leta. He does learn and play modern style though. Made 5 6 Shuttle every game vs Terran just like Best but the execution and map awareness nowhere near.

I have seen Kal's blizzard ID on ladder since early 2023. I dont think he can get into shape to compete anymore. He should be capable of getting top 10 ladder minimum if he wants to be capable of even competing for qualifier semi finals. Never seen that ID get over rank 80-100


Has he said he wants to try to be competitive again? Or is he just streaming/playing for fun? But he is definitely on the older side of ex-kespa pros now (I think same age as JD and Light?), so if he's still that out of shape there's probably no hope for him to train up and compete again :\
Free Palestine
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-06 15:44:54
March 06 2025 15:42 GMT
#40
On March 06 2025 23:03 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2025 22:11 konadora wrote:
On March 06 2025 18:03 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On March 06 2025 00:38 Chosi wrote:
On March 05 2025 22:27 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On March 05 2025 20:50 Chosi wrote:
So there is no crazy / experimental map in the pool this time, or am I missing something?

Players don't want any of that stuff anymore. And they have all the leverage. I think from now on we will only get various flavours of bog-standard maps.


Don't get me wrong, I am with the players on this one it seems. Thanks for the rationale.

Meh.. 1 semi-standard and 1 crazy out of 7 would add a good and reasonable amount of spice, methinks.
But whatever, it is what it is.

even on other leagues like race battle and ultimate battle, they've been getting banned every. SINGLE. time.

kinda sucks as a fan but WCYD


They played on Monty Hall and 76 though, what gives? Was playing on Monty Hall for that long the final straw? Or is Death Valley just considered exceptionally bad?


I was a death valley hater, I now like the 1.0 version. I think the map was not ready for competition as quickly as the standard new maps. My prediction is that death valley will be played about 10 times this season, compared to Monty Hall and 76 that got played 6 and 7 times.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
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