• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:21
CET 14:21
KST 22:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies1ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1347 users

ASL19(Formerly SSL Spring 2025) Announced - Page 2

Forum Index > BW General
198 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 8 9 10 Next All
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
March 03 2025 03:53 GMT
#21
On March 03 2025 08:19 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2025 00:18 TMNT wrote:
By the way I haven't followed the scene that much lately but apparently Kal has returned to SC after like what...? since Kespa? He's streaming since February and obviously, joined a SC university.

His stream: https://ch.sooplive.co.kr/kkaaqq


kal has definitely streamed since kespa but never committed fully to it. i'd say he popped up for a bit around the time remastered came out.

also bisu is active, just not streaming. artosis has been casting his recent ladder games on his youtube channel lately.

ArtosisCasts are reminiscent of Day9 dailies for me: daily Starcraft content with a healthy mix of scene updates, strategy discussion, and comedy.

I hope he does secondary "casts" of SSL games, if he's allowed, to do deeper dives into strategy / metagame for this season. He's so good at that. The only thing he might be better at is playing through SKRAAAAAAAAA on stream.
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
spets1
Profile Joined November 2009
131 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-03 10:18:06
March 03 2025 10:17 GMT
#22
Yessaas let's goooo

Is flash out for sure?

Hyped!!!

And if anyone can cast qualifiers or provide links to games would be awesome 😎😎👍
You were wrong before, what makes you think you're right now
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2298 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-04 04:08:08
March 04 2025 04:06 GMT
#23
Preditions for SSL Spring 2025:

best protoss runner is going to lose to some zerg doing all in/hidra bs in a BoX series.


....

thats it.
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13295 Posts
March 04 2025 12:48 GMT
#24
Bleh Flash has gone soft. He’s so worried about losing that he doesn’t play.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia935 Posts
March 04 2025 14:19 GMT
#25
That's how he also was on his first return, though. Only signed up when he felt like he was going to win.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey745 Posts
March 04 2025 14:50 GMT
#26
[image loading]
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 04 2025 17:49 GMT
#27
No FlaSh really sucks. I don't know what's going on, if he really has wrist issues that need surgery. Maybe he's going to retire? I just don't get why you would practice many months just to not play on main stage...
sunbeams are never made like me...
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
March 04 2025 22:51 GMT
#28
On March 03 2025 00:18 TMNT wrote:
By the way I haven't followed the scene that much lately but apparently Kal has returned to SC after like what...? since Kespa? He's streaming since February and obviously, joined a SC university.

His stream: https://ch.sooplive.co.kr/kkaaqq


So awesome, Kal was my fav protoss during the kespa era. How is he doing so far?
Free Palestine
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2298 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-05 05:33:15
March 05 2025 05:22 GMT
#29
On March 05 2025 02:49 outscar wrote:
No FlaSh really sucks. I don't know what's going on, if he really has wrist issues that need surgery. Maybe he's going to retire? I just don't get why you would practice many months just to not play on main stage...


in flashes shoes theres a lot to be considered, i mean, tbh if he is qualifies and fucking sucks completly during the tour his image and aura of invencibility insta fades, not only that but, if u really wanna win a tour like ssl u have to prepare, invest time to practice/study, review vods, and who knows what else flash does during practice.. imagine all that shit + pain...
not worth the effort imo.

Mb it is -EV to play the tour and actually +EV to just stream, make content during the event, just play daily proleagues and not over stress his arm... and if i was korean i would totally prefer watching ssl tru flashs stream (cause of his analysis) than a regular caster.

also my boi is already a rich mofo so, no need for that prize money.
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3102 Posts
March 05 2025 11:08 GMT
#30
On March 05 2025 07:51 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2025 00:18 TMNT wrote:
By the way I haven't followed the scene that much lately but apparently Kal has returned to SC after like what...? since Kespa? He's streaming since February and obviously, joined a SC university.

His stream: https://ch.sooplive.co.kr/kkaaqq


So awesome, Kal was my fav protoss during the kespa era. How is he doing so far?

Not very well. He's basically just a 2300-2400 mmr player. Can't even beat Leta. He does learn and play modern style though. Made 5 6 Shuttle every game vs Terran just like Best but the execution and map awareness nowhere near.
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1303 Posts
March 05 2025 11:50 GMT
#31
So there is no crazy / experimental map in the pool this time, or am I missing something?
Someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4228 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-05 13:27:36
March 05 2025 13:27 GMT
#32
On March 05 2025 20:50 Chosi wrote:
So there is no crazy / experimental map in the pool this time, or am I missing something?

Players don't want any of that stuff anymore. And they have all the leverage. I think from now on we will only get various flavours of bog-standard maps.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4228 Posts
March 05 2025 13:28 GMT
#33
On March 04 2025 21:48 RowdierBob wrote:
Bleh Flash has gone soft. He’s so worried about losing that he doesn’t play.

I think he has some wrist issues. Not feeling he's at his current 100%. Probably that's why he doesn't want to play.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1062 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-05 14:57:00
March 05 2025 14:54 GMT
#34
On March 05 2025 20:08 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2025 07:51 Ideas wrote:
On March 03 2025 00:18 TMNT wrote:
By the way I haven't followed the scene that much lately but apparently Kal has returned to SC after like what...? since Kespa? He's streaming since February and obviously, joined a SC university.

His stream: https://ch.sooplive.co.kr/kkaaqq


So awesome, Kal was my fav protoss during the kespa era. How is he doing so far?

Not very well. He's basically just a 2300-2400 mmr player. Can't even beat Leta. He does learn and play modern style though. Made 5 6 Shuttle every game vs Terran just like Best but the execution and map awareness nowhere near.

I have seen Kal's blizzard ID on ladder since early 2023. I dont think he can get into shape to compete anymore. He should be capable of getting top 10 ladder minimum if he wants to be capable of even competing for qualifier semi finals. Never seen that ID get over rank 80-100
JDON MY SOUL!
Chosi
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Germany1303 Posts
March 05 2025 15:38 GMT
#35
On March 05 2025 22:27 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2025 20:50 Chosi wrote:
So there is no crazy / experimental map in the pool this time, or am I missing something?

Players don't want any of that stuff anymore. And they have all the leverage. I think from now on we will only get various flavours of bog-standard maps.


Don't get me wrong, I am with the players on this one it seems. Thanks for the rationale.
Someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4228 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-06 09:04:03
March 06 2025 09:03 GMT
#36
On March 06 2025 00:38 Chosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2025 22:27 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On March 05 2025 20:50 Chosi wrote:
So there is no crazy / experimental map in the pool this time, or am I missing something?

Players don't want any of that stuff anymore. And they have all the leverage. I think from now on we will only get various flavours of bog-standard maps.


Don't get me wrong, I am with the players on this one it seems. Thanks for the rationale.

Meh.. 1 semi-standard and 1 crazy out of 7 would add a good and reasonable amount of spice, methinks.
But whatever, it is what it is.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
March 06 2025 13:11 GMT
#37
On March 06 2025 18:03 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2025 00:38 Chosi wrote:
On March 05 2025 22:27 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On March 05 2025 20:50 Chosi wrote:
So there is no crazy / experimental map in the pool this time, or am I missing something?

Players don't want any of that stuff anymore. And they have all the leverage. I think from now on we will only get various flavours of bog-standard maps.


Don't get me wrong, I am with the players on this one it seems. Thanks for the rationale.

Meh.. 1 semi-standard and 1 crazy out of 7 would add a good and reasonable amount of spice, methinks.
But whatever, it is what it is.

even on other leagues like race battle and ultimate battle, they've been getting banned every. SINGLE. time.

kinda sucks as a fan but WCYD
POGGERS
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
March 06 2025 14:03 GMT
#38
On March 06 2025 22:11 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2025 18:03 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On March 06 2025 00:38 Chosi wrote:
On March 05 2025 22:27 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On March 05 2025 20:50 Chosi wrote:
So there is no crazy / experimental map in the pool this time, or am I missing something?

Players don't want any of that stuff anymore. And they have all the leverage. I think from now on we will only get various flavours of bog-standard maps.


Don't get me wrong, I am with the players on this one it seems. Thanks for the rationale.

Meh.. 1 semi-standard and 1 crazy out of 7 would add a good and reasonable amount of spice, methinks.
But whatever, it is what it is.

even on other leagues like race battle and ultimate battle, they've been getting banned every. SINGLE. time.

kinda sucks as a fan but WCYD


They played on Monty Hall and 76 though, what gives? Was playing on Monty Hall for that long the final straw? Or is Death Valley just considered exceptionally bad?
Free Palestine
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
March 06 2025 14:06 GMT
#39
On March 05 2025 23:54 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2025 20:08 TMNT wrote:
On March 05 2025 07:51 Ideas wrote:
On March 03 2025 00:18 TMNT wrote:
By the way I haven't followed the scene that much lately but apparently Kal has returned to SC after like what...? since Kespa? He's streaming since February and obviously, joined a SC university.

His stream: https://ch.sooplive.co.kr/kkaaqq


So awesome, Kal was my fav protoss during the kespa era. How is he doing so far?

Not very well. He's basically just a 2300-2400 mmr player. Can't even beat Leta. He does learn and play modern style though. Made 5 6 Shuttle every game vs Terran just like Best but the execution and map awareness nowhere near.

I have seen Kal's blizzard ID on ladder since early 2023. I dont think he can get into shape to compete anymore. He should be capable of getting top 10 ladder minimum if he wants to be capable of even competing for qualifier semi finals. Never seen that ID get over rank 80-100


Has he said he wants to try to be competitive again? Or is he just streaming/playing for fun? But he is definitely on the older side of ex-kespa pros now (I think same age as JD and Light?), so if he's still that out of shape there's probably no hope for him to train up and compete again :\
Free Palestine
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-06 15:44:54
March 06 2025 15:42 GMT
#40
On March 06 2025 23:03 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2025 22:11 konadora wrote:
On March 06 2025 18:03 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On March 06 2025 00:38 Chosi wrote:
On March 05 2025 22:27 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On March 05 2025 20:50 Chosi wrote:
So there is no crazy / experimental map in the pool this time, or am I missing something?

Players don't want any of that stuff anymore. And they have all the leverage. I think from now on we will only get various flavours of bog-standard maps.


Don't get me wrong, I am with the players on this one it seems. Thanks for the rationale.

Meh.. 1 semi-standard and 1 crazy out of 7 would add a good and reasonable amount of spice, methinks.
But whatever, it is what it is.

even on other leagues like race battle and ultimate battle, they've been getting banned every. SINGLE. time.

kinda sucks as a fan but WCYD


They played on Monty Hall and 76 though, what gives? Was playing on Monty Hall for that long the final straw? Or is Death Valley just considered exceptionally bad?


I was a death valley hater, I now like the 1.0 version. I think the map was not ready for competition as quickly as the standard new maps. My prediction is that death valley will be played about 10 times this season, compared to Monty Hall and 76 that got played 6 and 7 times.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 8 9 10 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
12:00
Monday #66
WardiTV982
TKL 152
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko342
RotterdaM 205
TKL 152
BRAT_OK 100
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 2305
Sea 2088
Soma 619
Mini 596
Stork 562
Larva 548
GuemChi 523
Light 508
firebathero 414
ggaemo 284
[ Show more ]
Snow 240
hero 232
Sharp 191
Killer 154
PianO 151
Rush 123
Mong 81
Pusan 77
JYJ 75
Aegong 71
sorry 58
Yoon 58
ToSsGirL 54
soO 39
Movie 33
Shinee 26
910 23
zelot 21
yabsab 19
Terrorterran 18
ajuk12(nOOB) 18
Sacsri 12
SilentControl 9
Bale 9
Dota 2
singsing4566
XcaliburYe783
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2359
x6flipin808
zeus512
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor173
Other Games
crisheroes336
Fuzer 335
oskar102
Mew2King76
hiko68
nookyyy 52
Happy1
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 74
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV409
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
3h 39m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.