EPTBtw Flash played Jangbi on the ladder a few days ago. I'm curious if Jangbi is just scratching an itch or if he's interested in SSL as well.
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Peeano
Netherlands5044 Posts
Btw Flash played Jangbi on the ladder a few days ago. I'm curious if Jangbi is just scratching an itch or if he's interested in SSL as well. | ||
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jinjin5000
United States1429 Posts
On June 22 2024 06:07 Peeano wrote: I don't want to see another ZvZ finals nor a TvT one without Flash. Also I believe other players eager enough to win it all will try harder if Flash is involved. All in all actually less boring imo. Btw Flash played Jangbi on the ladder a few days ago. I'm curious if Jangbi is just scratching an itch or if he's interested in SSL as well. I think FlaSh fatigue was pretty valid complaint tho. ASL maps being warped more and more over time and not having much diversity up the latter rounds due to anti flash based mappool made asls where flash dominanted kinda boring after while. | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1598 Posts
On June 22 2024 01:37 WombaT wrote: Nobody is saying he should be some kind of expert in all these matters, merely that if he is not it’s not particularly responsible to promote such a venture to his fans. You seem to want to put all the onus on said fans in terms of personal responsibility, but not on Flash from embarking on this particular path Hot6 is an energy drink. All energy drinks are indeed unhealthy. Is every single professional player who was sponsored by hot6 responsible for energy drinks being unhealthy? Or are the individuals who chose to drink them responsible? And this could go across the board to almost any sponsor and far worse potential issues, such as perhaps maybe that company uses slave labor, or hides information about a product being safe medically for users etc. So, yes I do want 100% of the blame to be on the fans for their own personal actions. Before ANY of this crypto had already had scam coins that were promoted and crashed, and were known to be a risky meme investment. If they didn't do their own research and foolishly listened to advertisements and then bet their house on it, it is their issue. I'm not saying the scam coin owner isn't to blame for being a scammer, but expecting a paid mouth piece for their marketing to know the issues or be responsible for the coin owner's actions is simply moronic. He'd have no access to that info, he wouldn't even know how to figure it out, and not only that but it simply isn't his responsibility to baby sit adults. | ||
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TMNT
2767 Posts
On June 22 2024 06:07 Peeano wrote: I don't want to see another ZvZ finals nor a TvT one without Flash. Also I believe other players eager enough to win it all will try harder if Flash is involved. All in all actually less boring imo. Btw Flash played Jangbi on the ladder a few days ago. I'm curious if Jangbi is just scratching an itch or if he's interested in SSL as well. Are you sure it was Jangbi or just someone who puts "Jangbi" in his ID? I think it's probably the latter. | ||
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Chris_Havoc
United States600 Posts
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Peeano
Netherlands5044 Posts
On June 22 2024 06:21 jinjin5000 wrote: I think FlaSh fatigue was pretty valid complaint tho. ASL maps being warped more and more over time and not having much diversity up the latter rounds due to anti flash based mappool made asls where flash dominanted kinda boring after while. We haven't seen him for many ASLs now, and he's not the top dog currently. Should make a good SSL if he joins, more exciting than the likes of Sea surviving qualies for example. | ||
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Peeano
Netherlands5044 Posts
On June 22 2024 07:34 TMNT wrote: Are you sure it was Jangbi or just someone who puts "Jangbi" in his ID? I think it's probably the latter. Not sure, unfortunately. I should have added that, I guess I'm too excited for the chance Jangbi will be back just for 1 tournament, like Fantasy came back for 1. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands919 Posts
On June 22 2024 06:07 Peeano wrote: I don't want to see another ZvZ finals nor a TvT one without Flash. Also I believe other players eager enough to win it all will try harder if Flash is involved. All in all actually less boring imo. Btw Flash played Jangbi on the ladder a few days ago. I'm curious if Jangbi is just scratching an itch or if he's interested in SSL as well. Not Jangbi. its a HBS clan member. just an amateur player. his actual ID is unknown but i been calling him zzanga as thats his HBS id. correction: he's not zzanga. mixed him up. he's definitely not Jangbi though. | ||
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Galacsia
Chile161 Posts
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NoobSkills
United States1598 Posts
On June 22 2024 04:31 Miragee wrote: I agree. Flash possesses an understanding of the game nobody else does, which is why he will quickly adapt to a new meta and surpass his peers in understanding its intricacies. Of course it will take some time but considering that ASL will likely start in August, I think there is enough time for him. Personally, I am not happy about Flash returning to ASL. Having the whole competition revolving around the idea whether or not anybody might be capable of beating Flash is utterly boring to me. Right, it's totally unreasonable for people to discuss their discontent for a popular public figure who missused his popularity to try to scam his own audience. It seems like you really hate him, despite him in reality doing nothing wrong. He was not scamming his audience, unless you can prove he knew the coin was BS and was benefitting off that scam, which you can't and most likely doesn't seem to be the case by any stretch of the imagination. Hilarious to think that grown adults cannot think for themselves and are that easily susceptible to marketing strategies. As for his play in the event, I agree it will be boring to watch him roll the unprofessional players and even the "top" players SCR currently has. The only hope would be if it inspired the lazy players, the current "top", and hopefully even some of the veterans to come back and take it seriously. But given the limited support for SCR and lack of infrastructure in place I'm not sure that happens. | ||
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ThunderJunk
United States681 Posts
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Mizenhauer
United States1878 Posts
On June 23 2024 11:16 NoobSkills wrote: It seems like you really hate him, despite him in reality doing nothing wrong. He was not scamming his audience, unless you can prove he knew the coin was BS and was benefitting off that scam, which you can't and most likely doesn't seem to be the case by any stretch of the imagination. Hilarious to think that grown adults cannot think for themselves and are that easily susceptible to marketing strategies. As for his play in the event, I agree it will be boring to watch him roll the unprofessional players and even the "top" players SCR currently has. The only hope would be if it inspired the lazy players, the current "top", and hopefully even some of the veterans to come back and take it seriously. But given the limited support for SCR and lack of infrastructure in place I'm not sure that happens. Hilarious to think that grown adults (Flash) cannot realize that he would be ostracized as a result of this fraudulent venture. | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1598 Posts
On June 23 2024 13:47 Mizenhauer wrote: Hilarious to think that grown adults (Flash) cannot realize that he would be ostracized as a result of this fraudulent venture. Fraudulent how? In terms of flash, there was no fraud sorry. Again if hot6 were using slave labor and poisoning their clients, and manipulating their stock price, while sponsoring every single pro in esports across the globe. Would all of those individuals be responsible for the action of a company they do not own, have no knowledge of their actions, just because they have a little bit of stock in that company or received money for sponsorships from them? Seems like a bunch of salty adults who gambled away their money voluntarily. And is he ostracized really? Lol. | ||
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Mizenhauer
United States1878 Posts
On June 23 2024 14:19 NoobSkills wrote: Seems like a bunch of salty adults who gambled away their money voluntarily. And is he ostracized really? Lol. His reputation in Korea has pretty much hit rock bottom. There is a ton of information about how deep this thing went and how bad it turned out on Korean websites (things like Flash blaming his Mom for being responsible for roping him into the Crypto scam or the massive backlash that was directed at the whistleblower in an attempt to silence/discredit her and end her streaming career to name a few), but then you'd have to do some research which might be too much for you. | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1598 Posts
On June 23 2024 14:53 Mizenhauer wrote: His reputation in Korea has pretty much hit rock bottom. There is a ton of information about how deep this thing went and how bad it turned out on Korean websites (things like Flash blaming his Mom for being responsible for roping him into the Crypto scam or the massive backlash that was directed at the whistleblower in an attempt to silence/discredit her and end her streaming career to name a few), but then you'd have to do some research which might be too much for you. Watched every video linked, and read jinjin's article. I'm sorry I cannot find something in Korean and understand it, but there is nothing I've seen that says he is in anyway fraudulent as you alluded to. How are you monitoring his rep? Are you counting the amount of eggs thrown at his apartment/car per day? And were you collecting that data pre-crypto times? As for the supposed backlash you think Flash was doing his military service and secretly plotting against the whistleblower? Or perhaps the actual people who created the issue with the scam coin might have been in charge of that as well? See because I can understand if the facts supported it. If he knew the coin was a scam and participated in the scam and benefitted financially off of it. Sure be mad and I hope he goes broke. But that isn't the case and holding him responsible for your personal poor investment decisions and for the actions of the company and people involved in creating the scam coin is just looking for a scapegoat to take blame off yourself. | ||
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
Whether you like it or not, public figures with a following have a big influence on decisions made by their fans. Silly to pretend otherwise. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25522 Posts
On June 23 2024 14:19 NoobSkills wrote: Fraudulent how? In terms of flash, there was no fraud sorry. Again if hot6 were using slave labor and poisoning their clients, and manipulating their stock price, while sponsoring every single pro in esports across the globe. Would all of those individuals be responsible for the action of a company they do not own, have no knowledge of their actions, just because they have a little bit of stock in that company or received money for sponsorships from them? Seems like a bunch of salty adults who gambled away their money voluntarily. And is he ostracized really? Lol. But Flash actually hocked this coin? Personally, while not exactly being transparent on many things Versus this alternate reality where Hot6 causes cancer and uses slave labour. Which isn’t exactly equivalent anyway as sponsoring something players are doing isn’t the same as personally selling snake oil You’re doing the old ‘well nothing is 100% ethical so why bother?’ thing, and Flash seems to bear zero responsibility but anyone who invested is an idiot who should have done their due diligence according to you | ||
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BulgarianToss
Bulgaria487 Posts
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XenOsky
Chile2277 Posts
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XenOsky
Chile2277 Posts
On June 19 2024 17:47 tankgirl wrote: YES ITS HIM ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/5hwxynL.jpeg) ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/611qVNp.png) that is beautiful hotkey usage t__________t | ||
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