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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
May 26 2024 03:06 GMT
#21
On May 25 2024 06:21 Ferneu wrote:

Joking aside, the reason I found that move so odd was because, that early in the game, when he saw that Zeus (protoss) had built two gateways thewre, one would assume protoss had committed everything he had in that move, so the moment that pylon was destroyed, he would be done. And even if the probe tried to build another one, Silent_Control would have all the time in the world to destroy the new one too before it could power-up those Gateways.


No, never attack the pylon bro, it never works unless the probe is dead. Prove can build as many pylons simultaneously that is needed. Check out some games where Terran defends proxy gates properly.
Ferneu
Profile Joined June 2018
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-05-28 18:06:31
May 28 2024 17:33 GMT
#22
On May 25 2024 07:48 bovienchien wrote:
Let's look at I vs the best player of Vietnam all time (aka proA.ThuocLao). You will see right actions

But weren't we discussing a way for terran to win? That video shows how to lose faster. Unless... that was your intention! Then it was funny


No, never attack the pylon bro, it never works unless the probe is dead. Prove can build as many pylons simultaneously that is needed. Check out some games where Terran defends proxy gates properly.

Hummm... interesting.

If the SCVs destroyed that pylon, those 2 gateways would remain unpowered (is that a word?) until a new pylon spawns, right? So no zealots for a while. Not sure how much minerals protoss had at that moment, but I guess it wasn't much. That probe could probably start building a couple more pylons there, but I think the SCVs and the marines could probably kill both the probes and whatever pylons were being built before any of them had time to be fully built. And marines being cheaper and faster to "build" than a pylon, I think terran would be able to win the race.

We need a "scenario" mode where you guys can show me a couple of strategies to deal with that situation (or why destroying the pylon wouldn't work)
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26265 Posts
May 28 2024 19:33 GMT
#23
On May 26 2024 04:40 jinjin5000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2024 16:11 bovienchien wrote:
If you are gosu, you will know why he did it.

I am the one of the best players in Vietnam, I can explain and tell something for you.

Terran only destroys Gates, Pylons in inside or near his main when Gates have not completed yet. So when he saw 2 the Gates were completed, he pulled scv came back the Mineral line was right 100%.

Of course you can ask me, the game would be good for Terran if the Pylon was killed. No, Protoss just needed to build 2 Pylons to buy Zealots non stop. And then Terran would die sooner than the game you watched.

Something I tell you

1. If Protoss are discovered the strategy of Proxy like that. The game looks like balance at that time even Protoss can't kill any units of Terran, Protoss just starts game normal with advantage from economic. Terran still will die but slower.

2. Proxy Pylon should be ban in the professional leagues. Proxy Pylon always bring advantage for Protoss too much. This's why no one Terran wants to play TvP in 2 players maps.

3. The Namja Iyagi map is one of the best map in history of StarCraft. if it's no Namja Iyagi we also have no Chupung-Ryeong, Harmony, Return of the King... maps.

4. I wish we will have some nice maps like Namja Iyagi in 2024.


you are fucking D rank man.

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Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1119 Posts
May 29 2024 17:59 GMT
#24
On May 26 2024 05:02 jinjin5000 wrote:
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On May 26 2024 04:47 Sva3 wrote:
On May 26 2024 04:40 jinjin5000 wrote:
On May 24 2024 16:11 bovienchien wrote:
If you are gosu, you will know why he did it.

I am the one of the best players in Vietnam, I can explain and tell something for you.

Terran only destroys Gates, Pylons in inside or near his main when Gates have not completed yet. So when he saw 2 the Gates were completed, he pulled scv came back the Mineral line was right 100%.

Of course you can ask me, the game would be good for Terran if the Pylon was killed. No, Protoss just needed to build 2 Pylons to buy Zealots non stop. And then Terran would die sooner than the game you watched.

Something I tell you

1. If Protoss are discovered the strategy of Proxy like that. The game looks like balance at that time even Protoss can't kill any units of Terran, Protoss just starts game normal with advantage from economic. Terran still will die but slower.

2. Proxy Pylon should be ban in the professional leagues. Proxy Pylon always bring advantage for Protoss too much. This's why no one Terran wants to play TvP in 2 players maps.

3. The Namja Iyagi map is one of the best map in history of StarCraft. if it's no Namja Iyagi we also have no Chupung-Ryeong, Harmony, Return of the King... maps.

4. I wish we will have some nice maps like Namja Iyagi in 2024.


you are fucking D rank man.


What's wrong with D rank man? You wouldn't say that to me at LAN.


I will at next lan before i get blasted by all the TvT. Just you wait

believe in yourself! you will survive the TvT!
JDON MY SOUL!
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