EPTPros React To: SnOw's Reaver Micro vs Speed (asl)
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jinjin5000
United States1467 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26223 Posts
Thanks for the translations as ever, love hearing what these lads are thinking! | ||
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prion_
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26223 Posts
On April 06 2024 03:34 prion_ wrote: In essence it's just that you load the reaver back into the shuttle in the time between the tank firing and the shot hitting, which is an extremely tight window. Snow unloads away from the direction the tank turret is pointing, which makes the trick doable - he unloads and since the tank turret has to turn slightly, he has enough time to load back in before the shot lands but after the tank fires. Ah interesting, I’d always thought tank shots were hitscan, you learn something new every day! | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2298 Posts
all their wins equal skill.... protoss is so beautiful t_t | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16109 Posts
Facts. Thanks for doing videos like these. I love hearing the commentary from the pros so having these translations is great for me. | ||
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moktira
Ireland1546 Posts
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JoinTheRain
Bulgaria409 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32277 Posts
On April 06 2024 03:38 WombaT wrote: Ah interesting, I’d always thought tank shots were hitscan, you learn something new every day! iirc both tanks and goliath are a 2 part unit. The base and the turret moving on top. That makes them good at kiting, but the turret part always have to move to face the unit being targeted. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26223 Posts
On April 07 2024 04:40 IntoTheWow wrote: Great video as always jinjin! iirc both tanks and goliath are a 2 part unit. The base and the turret moving on top. That makes them good at kiting, but the turret part always have to move to face the unit being targeted. Aye so you can pop back up before the turret swings, but if it actually fires I’m not sure how you can dodge it. Is a tank shot a very, very fast projectile rather than a hitscan? IIRC in SC2 tanks always swing into a certain position when sieging, so depending on orientation prior you can get a first volley off faster/slower. I’d just always assumed tank shots were fully instantaneous but hey, part of the beauty of the game that I’m still learning new craic to this day! | ||
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jinjin5000
United States1467 Posts
On April 07 2024 03:47 moktira wrote: Thanks for translating this, really interesting to watch the progamers reactions and comments. Funny how many of them independently said that would lead to a fight in real life! it was the old wild west 90/2000s days where tempers would flare up in cig-smoke filled pc bangs similar to arcade cultures worldwide | ||
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MeSaber
Sweden1235 Posts
To outplay reaver you need to understand what makes scarab dud and use that positioning against itself. I dont see much else to do. 2-3 wraiths maybe a must. Snow really mastered this and he really outplays the top T's with it. | ||
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MeSaber
Sweden1235 Posts
On April 07 2024 06:01 WombaT wrote: Aye so you can pop back up before the turret swings, but if it actually fires I’m not sure how you can dodge it. Is a tank shot a very, very fast projectile rather than a hitscan? IIRC in SC2 tanks always swing into a certain position when sieging, so depending on orientation prior you can get a first volley off faster/slower. I’d just always assumed tank shots were fully instantaneous but hey, part of the beauty of the game that I’m still learning new craic to this day! It might be because the projectile needs to decide what gets 100/50/25% dmg from the origin. IE all splash projectiles might work like this. | ||
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sophisticated
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26223 Posts
On April 07 2024 19:42 MeSaber wrote: It might be because the projectile needs to decide what gets 100/50/25% dmg from the origin. IE all splash projectiles might work like this. That would make sense. I wonder if you can dodge the primary shot and still have it splash out? One for Snow rather than me to try I imagine! | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
On April 07 2024 04:40 IntoTheWow wrote: Great video as always jinjin! iirc both tanks and goliath are a 2 part unit. The base and the turret moving on top. That makes them good at kiting, but the turret part always have to move to face the unit being targeted. This is what makes BW so beautiful. Crazy micro stuff made possible due to realistic scientific or tech limitations. Like clunky unit pathing and high ground advantage. Whereas SC2 tech is so advanced to the point where both realism and gameplay tactics suffer for the worse. | ||
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prosatan
Romania8505 Posts
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Comedy
466 Posts
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BulgarianToss
Bulgaria490 Posts
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Ideas
United States8148 Posts
On April 08 2024 07:04 sophisticated wrote: Shoutout to mini's reaver micro as well during some games of ro24/ro16 I think mini is the only other player that is close to snow with shuttle/reaver but he's still not as good. But mini probably is best player in world with early game zealot micro as far as I can tell. seems like most of his wins come within first 5 minutes vs terran lol. | ||
BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
I forgot how bad the early game looked for snow here - insane micro. | ||
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