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LML
Germany1774 Posts
On June 19 2023 10:00 TT1 wrote: ditto i wish the new Rush Hour or Luna got some consideration, they look good + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1063947141711663176/1117654446382518292/image.png) ![[image loading]](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1045435626977235040/1119084594113818664/Neo_Luna_4.4.png) This picture of Rush Hour just made me realise something.. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/2gRPy0Q.png) | ||
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TMNT
3116 Posts
He basically said Sylphid should be dumped haha | ||
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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
On June 19 2023 20:30 TMNT wrote: JD's feedback on the new maps: https://bj.afreecatv.com/kuyol/post/103649445 He basically said Sylphid should be dumped haha Soulkey said the same thing. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6805 Posts
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outscar
2832 Posts
On June 19 2023 23:58 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: no doubt. The new sylphid is trash. I cant believe they fucked up the map in the last update :/ Wym New Sylphid, you probably confused with Neo Dark Origin because Sylphid and Neo Sylphid (which used on ASL14, 15) are almost same maps with minor tweaks on minerals etc. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6805 Posts
On June 20 2023 07:25 outscar wrote: Wym New Sylphid, you probably confused with Neo Dark Origin because Sylphid and Neo Sylphid (which used on ASL14, 15) are almost same maps with minor tweaks on minerals etc. Before i took a long break from Starcraft the sylphid version i was playing was really good. 12 oclock spot had mineral boosting. Minerals balance was also better. But the most important is that it was a very enjoyable map vs all the races. The new sylphid version added spots where protoss put zealots in gaps that only 1 zergling can attack. I didnt realize at first what was wrong but i read the last update notes and they added all those things i mention early on. I dont really enjoy playing the map anymore. you can use google translate and see all the changes they have done to the map here. https://910map.tistory.com/160 | ||
GTR
51525 Posts
It's really old and there's no new strategies coming out for the map now, so it should be removed. Just looking at the win rates alone, it is an openly difficult map for Zergs and the only way it should be used again is if it is modified once again. and here's Soulkey's take. Please remove the map. Some people have already pointed out that the map is disadvantageous to Zerg players and all potential strategies have been exhausted on this map because it has been used for so long. The map was naturally developed to give an advantage to the other two races. I'm sick and tired of playing on the map over and over as the same games always come out of it. | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1601 Posts
On June 20 2023 07:54 GTR wrote: Translating the part about Neo Sylphid from Jaedong (liberties from my translation style notwithstanding) and here's Soulkey's take. Thank you for posting the reasoning behind those two not liking the map while everyone else was just saying they didn't like it. Perhaps there was a translation error in "developed to give an advantage to Terrans" because I don't see that being the case ever, it does have terran advantage not intende through development and perhaps all viable strategies have been tested. | ||
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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
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TMNT
3116 Posts
I find it funny as Soulkey was pulling no punches here, just like in that Zerg whining video. | ||
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ox.tQ
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4230 Posts
On June 20 2023 07:54 GTR wrote: Translating the part about Neo Sylphid from Jaedong (liberties from my translation style notwithstanding) and here's Soulkey's take. super refreshing to see that best of the best players actually get bored playing the same map for multiple years.. they actually enjoy playing this strategical game! imagine that  | ||
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Ideas
United States8155 Posts
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Just_a_Moth
Canada1964 Posts
I voted for Champion in the map contest, but I actually don't like this newer version as much, though that might just be an aesthetic thing. I know pros gave their opinion on it, and it was updated to reflect that, so I'm not trying to say the original was more balanced or objectively a better map. I'm just a scrub after all. | ||
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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
On June 21 2023 09:49 Just_a_Moth wrote: I like Invader and Tempest the most. I voted for Champion in the map contest, but I actually don't like this newer version as much, though that might just be an aesthetic thing. I know pros gave their opinion on it, and it was updated to reflect that, so I'm not trying to say the original was more balanced or objectively a better map. I'm just a scrub after all. Lots of balance problems with the original champion when it comes to korean progamers. Sure it would be fine for even top foreigners but the skill gap and abuse is immense. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
edit: actually i like all the new maps | ||
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