FlaSh vs Rush - Page 4

On June 15 2023 20:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Gonna be up to Snow , Mini , Soulkey , Light , . I wish i could say Queen but he is looking so bad these days. Effort is retired from big tours and playing k leagues. Im not sure Bisu can pull a good fight either.

On June 16 2023 03:12 Souden wrote:
Flash and Jaedong ran into each other 3 times today on ladder and flash + Show Spoiler +, all TvZ games. You can watch the vod here with timestamp at the start of the first match.

https://vod.afreecatv.com/player/103481504?change_second=4118

On June 15 2023 20:02 TMNT wrote:

Flash is, surprisingly, on the younger side of the player pool. There's only Snow, Mini, Soma and Royal who are younger than him, but the last two will go to military service next year.

The only one who can stop him in the next few years is Snow.

On June 16 2023 05:04 whylessness wrote:


i remember when soma/royal broke into the scene and we considered them "young blood," now they're looking down the barrel of military service?

holy shit i'm old

On June 15 2023 17:34 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:


rain's video on flash, has mostly negative comments also. same is for most korean comments on others' videos on flash.

On June 16 2023 13:13 Dante08 wrote:


Saw the games, the style of play is really really similar to Flash. On Eclipse Rain went for a gas steal and Flash immediately took the gas which he does. He scans carriers almost immediately when the stargate was up and went for a push and won the game. You can tell he's still abit rusty in mid-late game but another 1-2 months and he should be much better. It's crazy that a "rusty" Flash can hang with top Protoss players in late game.

On June 16 2023 21:24 SuGo wrote:


It most likely is Flash (and I say this with zero example but simply because of what the korean community is rumoring), but who knows

But it’s not Flash for the reasons you mentioned. Any 2000+ korean terran will do the things you used as “examples” lol.

The reality is, none of us are good enough to discern by some vods and pinpoint specific things and say "yup, that's Flash" -- for foreigners, some random amateur korean terran who gets 2700 is going to look awesome for us (and they are awesome compared to us). Replay hotkey analysis is the only thing to go by coupled with the fact of good stats against progamers on ladder games, but to look at a vod and try to say "FLASH DOES THAT TOO" is just nonsense. There's tons of incredible korean terran amateurs. We just simply have a bias becuase of what the korean community tells us, but none of us have any real understanding at these high levels of play to pinpoint something specific and linking it to Flash based on gameplay.

And even hotkey analysis has some level of flaw to it because these hardcore terrans, they could have easily studied flash replays and just copied his hotkeys (it sounds unrealistic to us, but the way these higher level players practice is not something we can relate to). So... who knows

On June 18 2023 16:02 RKC wrote:
Fascinating mystery! How many games does this anon Terran play off-race? Isn't that quite solid proof that the player is Flash? Who else can play Terran and off-race so well against top pros? Plus a rising amateur would typically focus on perfecting their main race rather fool around on ladder off-race.

On June 17 2023 15:23 Dante08 wrote:


Erm not just any 2000+ Korean Terran will be able to do what that Terran did vs Rain who is an excellent player. These are ASL level players who are realistically 2800+. Do you think a 2000+ random Korean Terran will be able to beat Rain?

On June 18 2023 16:34 TMNT wrote:

It's Flash for sure. Only the public announcement missing.

If an amateur was that good, he'd brag about it everywhere instead of being anonymous. Some mentioned Fantasy or Last coming back. But Fantasy can't be that good and wouldn't offrace, and Last has no reason to play let alone do this anonymous thing.