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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2041 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-17 14:36:29
June 17 2021 14:34 GMT
#1
Whoever tried to get better at the game knows the difficulty of finding right practice partners, time to practice and ladder challenges with latency or lack of opponents.

Therefore I would like to ask for help for developing a practice map for zerg, specifically focusing on key aspects. I had a good map for practicing terran wraith macro and couple different things for terran, but I cannot find anything similar for zerg.

So key things to be on the map:

1) AI terran base layout consisint of primarly marine / medics / turrets / scvs / buildings where you can practice muta micro and easily rest the base (FS/Python layout or similar).
2) Ability to build up your base at the same time, e.g micro + macro pratice
3) Ability to practice move attack with drone, so a perpetually, somehow randomly moving SCV/Probe with infinite health that you can chase and attack move
4) Pre build hathery layout where you can macro on up to 6 hathes while microing (and units dissapearing or w/e)
5) Ability to spawn any unit at given area, to be able to quickly make different army composition for practice
6) Ability to reset the layouts in point 1, e.g respawn the whole base and units
7) Queen / broodling cloning micro practice
8) Button to add/remove 10.000/10.000 resources if you don't want to practice macro manually but just want to add some units from prebuild hatheries or add upgrade
9) Some extra like bunch of corsair / valkirie / vessel with irradiate etc. randomly distributed on the map to practice scourge/split micros

I can detail all above for someone who would pick up the challenge of making such a thing. I can also give examples from other maps.

Let me know what do you think and if you would be willing to help!


koget
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
June 17 2021 15:13 GMT
#2
Koget do you have discord? I will send you a cool singleplayer micro map I made.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5189 Posts
June 17 2021 16:40 GMT
#3
If memory services me right, I've played an ums like point 1 is describing 6-7 years ago on ICCup except on open ground. I imagine it would not be too difficult to recreate it on FS if the triggers are already available.
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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2041 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-17 18:02:14
June 17 2021 17:43 GMT
#4
Optimate: kogeT#4788

Edit: acutally the python map is not that bad as I test it now, so it is mostly missing the move attack with drone. ;-)
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
June 17 2021 19:09 GMT
#5
The Queen clone micro is something I've been wanting to practice, doesn't happen often enough in-game that the proper execution would stay in my muscle memory.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 17 2021 21:38 GMT
#6
On June 18 2021 02:43 kogeT wrote:
Optimate: kogeT#4788

Edit: acutally the python map is not that bad as I test it now, so it is mostly missing the move attack with drone. ;-)

If I'm not mistaken, there is a drone vs zealot micro in the bottom left corner of that map unless I'm thinking of the wrong map.
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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2041 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-18 08:18:35
June 18 2021 08:11 GMT
#7
On June 18 2021 06:38 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2021 02:43 kogeT wrote:
Optimate: kogeT#4788

Edit: acutally the python map is not that bad as I test it now, so it is mostly missing the move attack with drone. ;-)

If I'm not mistaken, there is a drone vs zealot micro in the bottom left corner of that map unless I'm thinking of the wrong map.


Quite sure this is "escape from zealot" micro, you cannot fight a zealot with a drone.
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art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1202 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-18 16:03:49
June 18 2021 15:58 GMT
#8
On June 17 2021 23:34 kogeT wrote:
Whoever tried to get better at the game knows the difficulty of finding right practice partners, time to practice and ladder challenges with latency or lack of opponents.

Therefore I would like to ask for help for developing a practice map for zerg, specifically focusing on key aspects. I had a good map for practicing terran wraith macro and couple different things for terran, but I cannot find anything similar for zerg.

So key things to be on the map:

1) AI terran base layout consisint of primarly marine / medics / turrets / scvs / buildings where you can practice muta micro and easily rest the base (FS/Python layout or similar).
2) Ability to build up your base at the same time, e.g micro + macro pratice
3) Ability to practice move attack with drone, so a perpetually, somehow randomly moving SCV/Probe with infinite health that you can chase and attack move
4) Pre build hathery layout where you can macro on up to 6 hathes while microing (and units dissapearing or w/e)
5) Ability to spawn any unit at given area, to be able to quickly make different army composition for practice
6) Ability to reset the layouts in point 1, e.g respawn the whole base and units
7) Queen / broodling cloning micro practice
8) Button to add/remove 10.000/10.000 resources if you don't want to practice macro manually but just want to add some units from prebuild hatheries or add upgrade
9) Some extra like bunch of corsair / valkirie / vessel with irradiate etc. randomly distributed on the map to practice scourge/split micros

I can detail all above for someone who would pick up the challenge of making such a thing. I can also give examples from other maps.

Let me know what do you think and if you would be willing to help!


koget

There was a muta micro map with python that had about 1/3 of that list and a high focus on all aspects of muta. If i can find it Ill throw it here.

Found it! Hidden in the depths of my micro folder
Discord Download for Python Map
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