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Estonia796 Posts
On March 21 2023 00:58 [AS]Rattus wrote: some rnd guy creating new accounts to write bs? That's tappo. He has mental issues - instead of seeking for medical help, he seeks attention here on TLnet. He has been doing that for almost 3 years I think. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17733 Posts
On March 21 2023 06:32 v1 wrote: That's tappo. He has mental issues - instead of seeking for medical help, he seeks attention here on TLnet. He has been doing that for almost 3 years I think. Seems like he was banned over 4 years ago. https://tl.net/forum/closed-threads/32696-automated-ban-list-latest-gtthgjkhlk?page=2099#41971 That is some dedication. | ||
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Jealous
10264 Posts
On March 22 2023 11:26 Ilikestarcraft wrote: Seems like he was banned over 4 years ago. https://tl.net/forum/closed-threads/32696-automated-ban-list-latest-gtthgjkhlk?page=2099#41971 That is some dedication. So long ago that someone who got a 90 day ban is now a writer for TL LOL https://tl.net/forum/closed-threads/32696-automated-ban-list-latest-hancecheam?page=2099#41974 https://tl.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/538463-wcs-2018-global-finals-day-1?page=35#692 | ||
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Dakota_Fanning
Hungary2359 Posts
Here's the list of all ShieldBattery ladder replays: https://repmastered.app/?ladder=sbat Global ShieldBattery ladder stats: https://repmastered.app/stats?ladder=sbat | ||
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G5
United States2921 Posts
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
activity depends on players, if every1's default server is bnet then u obviously wont find games the 1 time u decided to try the client out. that's part of the problem | ||
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G5
United States2921 Posts
On March 25 2023 06:47 TT1 wrote: the map u played on is a remake of CB, the minimap is shown so it should be easy enough to tell activity depends on players, if every1's default server is bnet then u obviously wont find games the 1 time u decided to try the client out. that's part of the problem So you're saying part of the problem is that everyone uses bnet. Why is that a problem? It's a problem for Shield Battery but what kind of problem is it for players? What solution does Shield Battery solve? I can see it being extremely useful when Blizzard eventually axes online play for SC:BW but until then, I don't see how there will ever be enough players using this to make it viable. We're lucky there's still enough players on b.net to make the game playable. P.S. Nah, that's a garbage map. The map pool is as atrocious as this season's BWCL. | ||
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tec27
United States3702 Posts
On March 25 2023 07:59 G5 wrote: So you're saying part of the problem is that everyone uses bnet. Why is that a problem? It's a problem for Shield Battery but what kind of problem is it for players? What solution does Shield Battery solve? I can see it being extremely useful when Blizzard eventually axes online play for SC:BW but until then, I don't see how there will ever be enough players using this to make it viable. We're lucky there's still enough players on b.net to make the game playable. P.S. Nah, that's a garbage map. The map pool is as atrocious as this season's BWCL. All of the things that people complain about with bnet: - Netcode - Lack of direct support for community events - Unfixed bugs - No matchmaking outside of 1v1 - No community input in map pools (see, you can already give feedback directly to TT1 who makes map pools here!) - etc. It's a bit frustrating to have people come in, give it a try for 1 game, and then complain that there are no players and never come back. Do you not see how that attitude contributes to everyone being stuck in an inferior system? At some point people are either going to have to put in an extremely minimal amount of effort to change their habits (or Blizzard's servers will fall over entirely), or that problem isn't really solvable. A lot of us are putting in effort, time, and money into trying to provide something nice for the community, but there are quite a few people who expect everything (including a large player population) to be handed to them for zero investment of their own. "Oh I'll just move over once there are 20,000 other players already" doesn't work if all 20,000 people are saying the same thing. You can also see how that's pretty discouraging, I'm sure. PS: You DM'd me on Discord immediately after your original post here to have your account deleted. You then left the ShieldBattery Discord so I couldn't actually reply to you. I can delete your account for you, but it's a manual process and cannot be reversed, so you should be sure you actually want that. If you do, you need to DM me through ShieldBattery (also tec27 there) with the request so I can verify you actually own the account. | ||
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jchassoul
Costa Rica72 Posts
Maybe you are much focus on the technical aspects that usually in projects nobody cares other than other devs? | ||
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jchassoul
Costa Rica72 Posts
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
The main thing Bnet has going for it is the 1v1 ladder (Kors are 99.9% of the player base, for them bnet ladder is fine because it's TR24), chat channels and ppls friends list and stuff (more of a habit/comfort thing). That's all, so if you'd rather play on a shitty ladder (from a company that gives 0 fucks about the game or their player base, that's who you're supporting) for the rest of your life then by all means, go ahead. For the maps, u can suggest maps on our disc or msg me on SB for direct feedback, there's diff factors that come into play when i pick maps, the main one being lack of activity and trying to motivate foreigners to try the client out. We change the map pool frequently tho so that's not too much of an issue, having quality maps to cycle through is a bigger issue for us. A lot of our maps from this season are being used for BWCL so the idea was to give a place for foreigners to come together and practice on those maps via ladder. Also, the map makers are putting a lot of time into their work and they've been consistently improving their skills/knowledge (just like players, this stuff doesn't happen overnight) so we want to support them as well. The main content BW has is map creation so the map making community is extremely important to the game. | ||
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jchassoul
Costa Rica72 Posts
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
 Everyone wants the world but they're not willing to give anything for it (not even their time, which is the bare minimum), they want everything to be served up to them on a platter lmao. We all love BW and have the same endgame goal, to grow the game and have a self sufficient community. If you care about the game then do w/e you can to help us move towards that goal, that's all. | ||
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jchassoul
Costa Rica72 Posts
don't wait for bnet to die, if bw is "electronic chess" then an alternative for the scr client must exist, otherwise keep waiting for it to die then maybe u'll get players. Is hard to give feedback when you tag it as entitlement and complaining, I get u guys are frustrated but don't direct it to the player base, don't blame the players you are trying to attract, seems silly and counterproductive. | ||
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
for example CPL players want to get better at the game, they have a lag free ladder accessible to them yet they can't come together to take advantage of the tools at their disposal, everyone is just waiting to get spoon fed | ||
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G5
United States2921 Posts
First with the maps. The current map pool you have is atrocious and if you spoke to BWCL admins, they would tell you that they have received so much negative feedback from players this season that they're going to put their foot down on the weird, janky-ass maps next season because they're well aware that they fucked up. So, don't follow them. Second, don't criticize me for downloading the client, playing a game, and not liking my experience. I even tried playing a 2nd game but eventually gave up in the same manner I would if I was on hold for 3 hours waiting for tech support. As far as I can see, I did what most players won't do, I tried it out. Don't get mad at me because you don't like the feedback. That's literally a child's mindset. I founded and ran an online marketing company for over a decade that has done work for everything from small mom and pop stores to fortune 500 companies. I don't get mad at what Google Analytics tells me, or the bad reviews I read, or what the focus-groups / polls are telling me. Grow up and realize what your customer-base is (hint: it's current StarCraft players) and try focusing on what they want. For me, I when I want to play a game, I want to actually play it (not sit in a que for an hour). I also want a map pool that is maps I know and are frequently played elsewhere. If you want some legit constructive critique, #1 Fix the horrid map pool. #2 Create something exciting that'll get people to play (for example, partner with BSL and have their ladder be exclusively on SB, or create your own SB BSL format with a prize pool). #3 How about you allow random but tell the other person what race they are so it's not a bullshit game. #4 How about you make race-picking an option (for example, vs Z I play T, vs P I play T, vs T I play P). If I sat and thought for longer, I could probably come up with a fuck ton more stuff. Tec27, I am a programmer and I understand what went into this and it's honestly an impressive program. I have nothing but admiration for what you made but there needs to be a need and you guys are clearly lacking fundamental marketing knowledge to figure out what your niche is. Calling Blizzard a company that doesn't care and trying to shame people into using your program is a shitty excuse for a business plan. It's actually what you (TT1) just proclaimed we are doing, "entitlement and complaining". Grow up and do your research to figure out what'll get people onto your platform, come up with a plan, and execute. Don't bitch and complain because you don't like feedback from your target-audience. You should be thankful you're getting any at all. Most people don't DL your client, don't give you feedback, and don't give a shit. As far as I see it, as it currently sits, you're not going to have a large community using SB until Blizzard disbands online play for SC:BW (probably years from now). You might be able to change that but you'll have to do stuff different and be extremely proactive if that's going to be the case. | ||
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
im not guilting anyone into switching, i've been repeating the same shit since like 2018, stay with Blizz and enjoy ur lagfest PvPs | ||
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