• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:05
CEST 06:05
KST 13:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2025)14Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, GuMiho, Classic, Cure6Code S RO8 Preview: Classic, Reynor, Maru, GuMiho4Code S RO8 Preview: ByuN, Rogue, herO, Cure5[ASL19] Ro4 Preview: Storied Rivals7
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 12-18): Clem sweeps WardiTV May3Code S Season 2 (2025) - Qualifier Results212025 GSL Season 2 (Qualifiers)14Code S Season 1 - Classic & GuMiho advance to RO4 (2025)4[BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET7
StarCraft 2
General
Any reason why RuFF's stream is still on sidebar? Power Rank: October 2018 herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2025) Code S Season 2 (2025) - Qualifier Results Code S RO8 Preview: Classic, Reynor, Maru, GuMiho
Tourneys
EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers DreamHack Dallas 2025 announced (May 23-25) SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series [GSL 2025] Code S Season 1 - RO4 and Grand Finals
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat Mutation # 471 Delivery Guaranteed
Brood War
General
Artosis baned on twitch ? who is JiriKara /Cipisek/ from CZ BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: Emotional Finalist in Best vs Light Where is effort ?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL19] Semifinal B Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
What do you want from future RTS games? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Grand Theft Auto VI Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Men's Fashion Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Books] Wool by Hugh Howey
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Narcissists In Gaming: Why T…
TrAiDoS
Poker
Nebuchad
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12964 users

BSL - Season 11 - Page 8

Forum Index > BW General
172 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 Next All
DiMiaN
Profile Joined October 2013
Finland299 Posts
February 21 2021 08:48 GMT
#141
Sad Artosis didnt make it. He had a good chance before ladder reset. After reset he faced couple pro koreans so was a huge struggle to even get to A rank for him...
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4168 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-21 09:25:30
February 21 2021 09:25 GMT
#142
On February 21 2021 17:48 DiMiaN wrote:
Sad Artosis didnt make it. He had a good chance before ladder reset. After reset he faced couple pro koreans so was a huge struggle to even get to A rank for him...

can still play in the gosuleague I think? that would make sense, too. Since top4 gets the ro24 seed for BSL12

but he probably won't, which is a shame for sure. Would be cool to see him getting smacked by foreigners a bit
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4168 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-21 12:19:26
February 21 2021 12:17 GMT
#143
nvm.. i'm confused :3
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42282 Posts
February 21 2021 15:48 GMT
#144
On February 21 2021 17:48 DiMiaN wrote:
Sad Artosis didnt make it. He had a good chance before ladder reset. After reset he faced couple pro koreans so was a huge struggle to even get to A rank for him...

Ladder reset substantially improved his chances. With no reset the MMR required would have likely gone up to 2350-2400 due to EU inflation, late season inflation, and the sheer number of good players applying. I got 2300 NA and there are plenty of players better than me, 2300 would not have been enough.

The reset reserved 17 slots for players who mass gamed early in the season which left a lot of the strongest players ineligible. Dewalt wasn’t eligible for one of those 17 slots, for example. That brought the MMR requirement down from 2350+ to 2250.

Artosis had a 0% chance of getting in without a reset, he is simply not capable of getting the MMR required in that scenario. But he mass games early season and had a fairly good chance of getting in from the easier path with the reset. He could have potentially had 2250 on that day.

The reset made the path much easier for players like Artosis. 0% chance of qualifying without reset but maybe 10% chance of qualifying with reset. His problem isn’t the reset, it’s that even when given a much easier path to qualify he still couldn’t meet the new lower MMR requirement.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
February 21 2021 16:24 GMT
#145
On February 22 2021 00:48 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2021 17:48 DiMiaN wrote:
Sad Artosis didnt make it. He had a good chance before ladder reset. After reset he faced couple pro koreans so was a huge struggle to even get to A rank for him...

Ladder reset substantially improved his chances. With no reset the MMR required would have likely gone up to 2350-2400 due to EU inflation, late season inflation, and the sheer number of good players applying. I got 2300 NA and there are plenty of players better than me, 2300 would not have been enough.

The reset reserved 17 slots for players who mass gamed early in the season which left a lot of the strongest players ineligible. Dewalt wasn’t eligible for one of those 17 slots, for example. That brought the MMR requirement down from 2350+ to 2250.

Artosis had a 0% chance of getting in without a reset, he is simply not capable of getting the MMR required in that scenario. But he mass games early season and had a fairly good chance of getting in from the easier path with the reset. He could have potentially had 2250 on that day.

The reset made the path much easier for players like Artosis. 0% chance of qualifying without reset but maybe 10% chance of qualifying with reset. His problem isn’t the reset, it’s that even when given a much easier path to qualify he still couldn’t meet the new lower MMR requirement.

Chill dude, this level of obsession is supremely offputting.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
Hatchet_man
Profile Joined December 2013
Russian Federation249 Posts
February 21 2021 16:42 GMT
#146
We are really sorry, but Ro24 group draw is postponed until tomorrow.
Comedy
Profile Joined March 2016
455 Posts
February 21 2021 16:47 GMT
#147
On February 22 2021 00:48 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2021 17:48 DiMiaN wrote:
Sad Artosis didnt make it. He had a good chance before ladder reset. After reset he faced couple pro koreans so was a huge struggle to even get to A rank for him...

Ladder reset substantially improved his chances. With no reset the MMR required would have likely gone up to 2350-2400 due to EU inflation, late season inflation, and the sheer number of good players applying. I got 2300 NA and there are plenty of players better than me, 2300 would not have been enough.

The reset reserved 17 slots for players who mass gamed early in the season which left a lot of the strongest players ineligible. Dewalt wasn’t eligible for one of those 17 slots, for example. That brought the MMR requirement down from 2350+ to 2250.

Artosis had a 0% chance of getting in without a reset, he is simply not capable of getting the MMR required in that scenario. But he mass games early season and had a fairly good chance of getting in from the easier path with the reset. He could have potentially had 2250 on that day.

The reset made the path much easier for players like Artosis. 0% chance of qualifying without reset but maybe 10% chance of qualifying with reset. His problem isn’t the reset, it’s that even when given a much easier path to qualify he still couldn’t meet the new lower MMR requirement.


you spend a lot of time talking about him, which is funny cause the only reason you made it in is the reset as well.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42282 Posts
February 21 2021 17:04 GMT
#148
On February 22 2021 01:24 9-BiT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2021 00:48 KwarK wrote:
On February 21 2021 17:48 DiMiaN wrote:
Sad Artosis didnt make it. He had a good chance before ladder reset. After reset he faced couple pro koreans so was a huge struggle to even get to A rank for him...

Ladder reset substantially improved his chances. With no reset the MMR required would have likely gone up to 2350-2400 due to EU inflation, late season inflation, and the sheer number of good players applying. I got 2300 NA and there are plenty of players better than me, 2300 would not have been enough.

The reset reserved 17 slots for players who mass gamed early in the season which left a lot of the strongest players ineligible. Dewalt wasn’t eligible for one of those 17 slots, for example. That brought the MMR requirement down from 2350+ to 2250.

Artosis had a 0% chance of getting in without a reset, he is simply not capable of getting the MMR required in that scenario. But he mass games early season and had a fairly good chance of getting in from the easier path with the reset. He could have potentially had 2250 on that day.

The reset made the path much easier for players like Artosis. 0% chance of qualifying without reset but maybe 10% chance of qualifying with reset. His problem isn’t the reset, it’s that even when given a much easier path to qualify he still couldn’t meet the new lower MMR requirement.

Chill dude, this level of obsession is supremely offputting.

This is a difficult comment to respond to, both because of the idea that responding to someone else bringing up Artosis in a space I was already in is obsession and the implicit assumption that I wouldn't want to put you off. I'll address the first by saying that I didn't come here to talk about Artosis, I was already here, someone else brought him up, I was just pointing out the obvious flaw with the idea that Artosis was somehow hurt by a change that let lower skill massgamers into BSL more easily. Regarding the second, if me responding to someone else about Artosis puts you off me then I view that as an absolute good. I don't know where you got the idea that I want you to want to fuck me but rest assured, I don't. This isn't going to happen between us. My tl posting was never intended to turn you on and if it's failing to turn you on I don't have a problem with that.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42282 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-21 17:21:34
February 21 2021 17:06 GMT
#149
On February 22 2021 01:47 Comedy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2021 00:48 KwarK wrote:
On February 21 2021 17:48 DiMiaN wrote:
Sad Artosis didnt make it. He had a good chance before ladder reset. After reset he faced couple pro koreans so was a huge struggle to even get to A rank for him...

Ladder reset substantially improved his chances. With no reset the MMR required would have likely gone up to 2350-2400 due to EU inflation, late season inflation, and the sheer number of good players applying. I got 2300 NA and there are plenty of players better than me, 2300 would not have been enough.

The reset reserved 17 slots for players who mass gamed early in the season which left a lot of the strongest players ineligible. Dewalt wasn’t eligible for one of those 17 slots, for example. That brought the MMR requirement down from 2350+ to 2250.

Artosis had a 0% chance of getting in without a reset, he is simply not capable of getting the MMR required in that scenario. But he mass games early season and had a fairly good chance of getting in from the easier path with the reset. He could have potentially had 2250 on that day.

The reset made the path much easier for players like Artosis. 0% chance of qualifying without reset but maybe 10% chance of qualifying with reset. His problem isn’t the reset, it’s that even when given a much easier path to qualify he still couldn’t meet the new lower MMR requirement.


you spend a lot of time talking about him, which is funny cause the only reason you made it in is the reset as well.

That's the point. The reset let in bad players who played a lot during the early season like me. I wouldn't have made it in with 2300 either had there not been a reset. Artosis complained about the reset letting in bad players who massgamed without noting that he is exactly the kind of player who could only get in that way. That's why it's funny. We both got lucky but he resented the luck.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
iFU.spx
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation367 Posts
February 21 2021 17:26 GMT
#150
On February 22 2021 02:06 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2021 01:47 Comedy wrote:
On February 22 2021 00:48 KwarK wrote:
On February 21 2021 17:48 DiMiaN wrote:
Sad Artosis didnt make it. He had a good chance before ladder reset. After reset he faced couple pro koreans so was a huge struggle to even get to A rank for him...

Ladder reset substantially improved his chances. With no reset the MMR required would have likely gone up to 2350-2400 due to EU inflation, late season inflation, and the sheer number of good players applying. I got 2300 NA and there are plenty of players better than me, 2300 would not have been enough.

The reset reserved 17 slots for players who mass gamed early in the season which left a lot of the strongest players ineligible. Dewalt wasn’t eligible for one of those 17 slots, for example. That brought the MMR requirement down from 2350+ to 2250.

Artosis had a 0% chance of getting in without a reset, he is simply not capable of getting the MMR required in that scenario. But he mass games early season and had a fairly good chance of getting in from the easier path with the reset. He could have potentially had 2250 on that day.

The reset made the path much easier for players like Artosis. 0% chance of qualifying without reset but maybe 10% chance of qualifying with reset. His problem isn’t the reset, it’s that even when given a much easier path to qualify he still couldn’t meet the new lower MMR requirement.


you spend a lot of time talking about him, which is funny cause the only reason you made it in is the reset as well.

That's the point. The reset let in bad players who played a lot during the early season like me. I wouldn't have made it in with 2300 either. Artosis complained about the reset letting in bad players who massgamed without noting that he is exactly the kind of player who could only get in that way. That's why it's funny.


I don't see a single bad player from pre-reset ladder qualification. Even you are not bad, even if you say so.
But i agree, that at the start of a new season in Korea is impossible to gain high mmr for Artosis.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4168 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-21 17:45:41
February 21 2021 17:45 GMT
#151
On February 22 2021 01:42 Hatchet_man wrote:
We are really sorry, but Ro24 group draw is postponed until tomorrow.

the mistery of who got in continues then!

at which hour will the draw happen may I ask?
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Hatchet_man
Profile Joined December 2013
Russian Federation249 Posts
February 21 2021 18:54 GMT
#152
Scheduled to start at 20:00 CET
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4168 Posts
February 21 2021 20:41 GMT
#153
On February 22 2021 03:54 Hatchet_man wrote:
Scheduled to start at 20:00 CET

okay, thanks!
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
DiMiaN
Profile Joined October 2013
Finland299 Posts
February 22 2021 07:38 GMT
#154
On February 22 2021 02:26 iFU.spx wrote:
But i agree, that at the start of a new season in Korea is impossible to gain high mmr for Artosis.

This.
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-22 13:26:43
February 22 2021 13:21 GMT
#155
On February 22 2021 02:04 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2021 01:24 9-BiT wrote:
On February 22 2021 00:48 KwarK wrote:
On February 21 2021 17:48 DiMiaN wrote:
Sad Artosis didnt make it. He had a good chance before ladder reset. After reset he faced couple pro koreans so was a huge struggle to even get to A rank for him...

Ladder reset substantially improved his chances. With no reset the MMR required would have likely gone up to 2350-2400 due to EU inflation, late season inflation, and the sheer number of good players applying. I got 2300 NA and there are plenty of players better than me, 2300 would not have been enough.

The reset reserved 17 slots for players who mass gamed early in the season which left a lot of the strongest players ineligible. Dewalt wasn’t eligible for one of those 17 slots, for example. That brought the MMR requirement down from 2350+ to 2250.

Artosis had a 0% chance of getting in without a reset, he is simply not capable of getting the MMR required in that scenario. But he mass games early season and had a fairly good chance of getting in from the easier path with the reset. He could have potentially had 2250 on that day.

The reset made the path much easier for players like Artosis. 0% chance of qualifying without reset but maybe 10% chance of qualifying with reset. His problem isn’t the reset, it’s that even when given a much easier path to qualify he still couldn’t meet the new lower MMR requirement.

Chill dude, this level of obsession is supremely offputting.

This is a difficult comment to respond to, both because of the idea that responding to someone else bringing up Artosis in a space I was already in is obsession and the implicit assumption that I wouldn't want to put you off. I'll address the first by saying that I didn't come here to talk about Artosis, I was already here, someone else brought him up, I was just pointing out the obvious flaw with the idea that Artosis was somehow hurt by a change that let lower skill massgamers into BSL more easily. Regarding the second, if me responding to someone else about Artosis puts you off me then I view that as an absolute good. I don't know where you got the idea that I want you to want to fuck me but rest assured, I don't. This isn't going to happen between us. My tl posting was never intended to turn you on and if it's failing to turn you on I don't have a problem with that.

+ Show Spoiler +


[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]

First of all I didn’t read all that shit, second of all I wouldn’t believe you even if I did.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1927 Posts
February 22 2021 14:15 GMT
#156
can I just say how funny it is to me that you say that the level of obsession is offputting yet you have logs of people talking about kwark as well as his msg(tweet I'm assuming?) in your TL.net signature?
I don't believe you.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42282 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-22 14:23:46
February 22 2021 14:20 GMT
#157
It's chat logs from my twitch account.
https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/94532-icc-who-is-who-season-9?page=49#964

The fact that he went to this much trouble though really does imply that he's upset that I don't want to fuck him. Going through chat logs and taking a bunch of screenshots is stalkery behaviour. Dude, just no.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Comedy
Profile Joined March 2016
455 Posts
February 22 2021 15:06 GMT
#158
And what does it say about you that you sit there on an alt in artosis twitch chat propping yourself up? Lol....
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42282 Posts
February 22 2021 15:14 GMT
#159
On February 23 2021 00:06 Comedy wrote:
And what does it say about you that you sit there on an alt in artosis twitch chat propping yourself up? Lol....

It’s not a secret ID, it’s an ID I’ve used for bw a lot, and the date stamps show that I say something in like 5% of all his streams.

It says that I sometimes watch his stream and sometimes comment. With a baby I can’t always play bw so I sometimes put bw streams on the tv at night. Sometimes that’s his stream.

Honestly I think the most shocking thing there is that I beat action.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Comedy
Profile Joined March 2016
455 Posts
February 22 2021 15:14 GMT
#160
On February 23 2021 00:14 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2021 00:06 Comedy wrote:
And what does it say about you that you sit there on an alt in artosis twitch chat propping yourself up? Lol....

It’s not a secret ID, it’s an ID I’ve used for bw a lot, and the date stamps show that I say something in like 5% of all his streams.

It says that I sometimes watch his stream and sometimes comment. With a baby I can’t always play bw so I sometimes put bw streams on the tv at night. Sometimes that’s his stream.

Honestly I think the most shocking thing there is that I beat action.


can you stop clowning bro, he drone rushed you so yeah of course you won that game. jesus christ
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
2025 GSL S1 - Ro8 Group B
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PartinGtheBigBoy 352
Nina 188
ProTech74
Ketroc 36
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 4083
Sharp 254
NaDa 54
Icarus 5
Dota 2
monkeys_forever531
NeuroSwarm100
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 735
Counter-Strike
Fnx 3888
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0776
Mew2King66
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor133
Other Games
summit1g11500
tarik_tv10111
hungrybox454
Maynarde228
ViBE150
Trikslyr43
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1438
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH256
• practicex 27
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki19
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift3765
• Lourlo893
• Stunt118
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 55m
Replay Cast
19h 55m
Replay Cast
1d 5h
Road to EWC
1d 10h
Replay Cast
2 days
SC Evo League
2 days
Road to EWC
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
BeSt vs Soulkey
Road to EWC
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
[ Show More ]
SOOP
5 days
NightMare vs Wayne
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL Code S
6 days
Cure vs Zoun
Solar vs Creator
The PondCast
6 days
Online Event
6 days
Clem vs ShoWTimE
herO vs MaxPax
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-05-16
2025 GSL S1
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
ASL Season 19
YSL S1
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
China & Korea Top Challenge
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Heroes 10 EU
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025
ESL Pro League S21

Upcoming

Rose Open S1
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
2025 GSL S2
DreamHack Dallas 2025
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.