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DiMiaN
Profile Joined October 2013
Finland306 Posts
February 21 2021 08:48 GMT
#141
Sad Artosis didnt make it. He had a good chance before ladder reset. After reset he faced couple pro koreans so was a huge struggle to even get to A rank for him...
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-21 09:25:30
February 21 2021 09:25 GMT
#142
On February 21 2021 17:48 DiMiaN wrote:
Sad Artosis didnt make it. He had a good chance before ladder reset. After reset he faced couple pro koreans so was a huge struggle to even get to A rank for him...

can still play in the gosuleague I think? that would make sense, too. Since top4 gets the ro24 seed for BSL12

but he probably won't, which is a shame for sure. Would be cool to see him getting smacked by foreigners a bit
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-21 12:19:26
February 21 2021 12:17 GMT
#143
nvm.. i'm confused :3
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44203 Posts
February 21 2021 15:48 GMT
#144
On February 21 2021 17:48 DiMiaN wrote:
Sad Artosis didnt make it. He had a good chance before ladder reset. After reset he faced couple pro koreans so was a huge struggle to even get to A rank for him...

Ladder reset substantially improved his chances. With no reset the MMR required would have likely gone up to 2350-2400 due to EU inflation, late season inflation, and the sheer number of good players applying. I got 2300 NA and there are plenty of players better than me, 2300 would not have been enough.

The reset reserved 17 slots for players who mass gamed early in the season which left a lot of the strongest players ineligible. Dewalt wasn’t eligible for one of those 17 slots, for example. That brought the MMR requirement down from 2350+ to 2250.

Artosis had a 0% chance of getting in without a reset, he is simply not capable of getting the MMR required in that scenario. But he mass games early season and had a fairly good chance of getting in from the easier path with the reset. He could have potentially had 2250 on that day.

The reset made the path much easier for players like Artosis. 0% chance of qualifying without reset but maybe 10% chance of qualifying with reset. His problem isn’t the reset, it’s that even when given a much easier path to qualify he still couldn’t meet the new lower MMR requirement.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
February 21 2021 16:24 GMT
#145
On February 22 2021 00:48 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2021 17:48 DiMiaN wrote:
Sad Artosis didnt make it. He had a good chance before ladder reset. After reset he faced couple pro koreans so was a huge struggle to even get to A rank for him...

Ladder reset substantially improved his chances. With no reset the MMR required would have likely gone up to 2350-2400 due to EU inflation, late season inflation, and the sheer number of good players applying. I got 2300 NA and there are plenty of players better than me, 2300 would not have been enough.

The reset reserved 17 slots for players who mass gamed early in the season which left a lot of the strongest players ineligible. Dewalt wasn’t eligible for one of those 17 slots, for example. That brought the MMR requirement down from 2350+ to 2250.

Artosis had a 0% chance of getting in without a reset, he is simply not capable of getting the MMR required in that scenario. But he mass games early season and had a fairly good chance of getting in from the easier path with the reset. He could have potentially had 2250 on that day.

The reset made the path much easier for players like Artosis. 0% chance of qualifying without reset but maybe 10% chance of qualifying with reset. His problem isn’t the reset, it’s that even when given a much easier path to qualify he still couldn’t meet the new lower MMR requirement.

Chill dude, this level of obsession is supremely offputting.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
Hatchet_man
Profile Joined December 2013
Russian Federation249 Posts
February 21 2021 16:42 GMT
#146
We are really sorry, but Ro24 group draw is postponed until tomorrow.
Comedy
Profile Joined March 2016
469 Posts
February 21 2021 16:47 GMT
#147
On February 22 2021 00:48 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2021 17:48 DiMiaN wrote:
Sad Artosis didnt make it. He had a good chance before ladder reset. After reset he faced couple pro koreans so was a huge struggle to even get to A rank for him...

Ladder reset substantially improved his chances. With no reset the MMR required would have likely gone up to 2350-2400 due to EU inflation, late season inflation, and the sheer number of good players applying. I got 2300 NA and there are plenty of players better than me, 2300 would not have been enough.

The reset reserved 17 slots for players who mass gamed early in the season which left a lot of the strongest players ineligible. Dewalt wasn’t eligible for one of those 17 slots, for example. That brought the MMR requirement down from 2350+ to 2250.

Artosis had a 0% chance of getting in without a reset, he is simply not capable of getting the MMR required in that scenario. But he mass games early season and had a fairly good chance of getting in from the easier path with the reset. He could have potentially had 2250 on that day.

The reset made the path much easier for players like Artosis. 0% chance of qualifying without reset but maybe 10% chance of qualifying with reset. His problem isn’t the reset, it’s that even when given a much easier path to qualify he still couldn’t meet the new lower MMR requirement.


you spend a lot of time talking about him, which is funny cause the only reason you made it in is the reset as well.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44203 Posts
February 21 2021 17:04 GMT
#148
On February 22 2021 01:24 9-BiT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2021 00:48 KwarK wrote:
On February 21 2021 17:48 DiMiaN wrote:
Sad Artosis didnt make it. He had a good chance before ladder reset. After reset he faced couple pro koreans so was a huge struggle to even get to A rank for him...

Ladder reset substantially improved his chances. With no reset the MMR required would have likely gone up to 2350-2400 due to EU inflation, late season inflation, and the sheer number of good players applying. I got 2300 NA and there are plenty of players better than me, 2300 would not have been enough.

The reset reserved 17 slots for players who mass gamed early in the season which left a lot of the strongest players ineligible. Dewalt wasn’t eligible for one of those 17 slots, for example. That brought the MMR requirement down from 2350+ to 2250.

Artosis had a 0% chance of getting in without a reset, he is simply not capable of getting the MMR required in that scenario. But he mass games early season and had a fairly good chance of getting in from the easier path with the reset. He could have potentially had 2250 on that day.

The reset made the path much easier for players like Artosis. 0% chance of qualifying without reset but maybe 10% chance of qualifying with reset. His problem isn’t the reset, it’s that even when given a much easier path to qualify he still couldn’t meet the new lower MMR requirement.

Chill dude, this level of obsession is supremely offputting.

This is a difficult comment to respond to, both because of the idea that responding to someone else bringing up Artosis in a space I was already in is obsession and the implicit assumption that I wouldn't want to put you off. I'll address the first by saying that I didn't come here to talk about Artosis, I was already here, someone else brought him up, I was just pointing out the obvious flaw with the idea that Artosis was somehow hurt by a change that let lower skill massgamers into BSL more easily. Regarding the second, if me responding to someone else about Artosis puts you off me then I view that as an absolute good. I don't know where you got the idea that I want you to want to fuck me but rest assured, I don't. This isn't going to happen between us. My tl posting was never intended to turn you on and if it's failing to turn you on I don't have a problem with that.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44203 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-21 17:21:34
February 21 2021 17:06 GMT
#149
On February 22 2021 01:47 Comedy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2021 00:48 KwarK wrote:
On February 21 2021 17:48 DiMiaN wrote:
Sad Artosis didnt make it. He had a good chance before ladder reset. After reset he faced couple pro koreans so was a huge struggle to even get to A rank for him...

Ladder reset substantially improved his chances. With no reset the MMR required would have likely gone up to 2350-2400 due to EU inflation, late season inflation, and the sheer number of good players applying. I got 2300 NA and there are plenty of players better than me, 2300 would not have been enough.

The reset reserved 17 slots for players who mass gamed early in the season which left a lot of the strongest players ineligible. Dewalt wasn’t eligible for one of those 17 slots, for example. That brought the MMR requirement down from 2350+ to 2250.

Artosis had a 0% chance of getting in without a reset, he is simply not capable of getting the MMR required in that scenario. But he mass games early season and had a fairly good chance of getting in from the easier path with the reset. He could have potentially had 2250 on that day.

The reset made the path much easier for players like Artosis. 0% chance of qualifying without reset but maybe 10% chance of qualifying with reset. His problem isn’t the reset, it’s that even when given a much easier path to qualify he still couldn’t meet the new lower MMR requirement.


you spend a lot of time talking about him, which is funny cause the only reason you made it in is the reset as well.

That's the point. The reset let in bad players who played a lot during the early season like me. I wouldn't have made it in with 2300 either had there not been a reset. Artosis complained about the reset letting in bad players who massgamed without noting that he is exactly the kind of player who could only get in that way. That's why it's funny. We both got lucky but he resented the luck.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
iFU.spx
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation378 Posts
February 21 2021 17:26 GMT
#150
On February 22 2021 02:06 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2021 01:47 Comedy wrote:
On February 22 2021 00:48 KwarK wrote:
On February 21 2021 17:48 DiMiaN wrote:
Sad Artosis didnt make it. He had a good chance before ladder reset. After reset he faced couple pro koreans so was a huge struggle to even get to A rank for him...

Ladder reset substantially improved his chances. With no reset the MMR required would have likely gone up to 2350-2400 due to EU inflation, late season inflation, and the sheer number of good players applying. I got 2300 NA and there are plenty of players better than me, 2300 would not have been enough.

The reset reserved 17 slots for players who mass gamed early in the season which left a lot of the strongest players ineligible. Dewalt wasn’t eligible for one of those 17 slots, for example. That brought the MMR requirement down from 2350+ to 2250.

Artosis had a 0% chance of getting in without a reset, he is simply not capable of getting the MMR required in that scenario. But he mass games early season and had a fairly good chance of getting in from the easier path with the reset. He could have potentially had 2250 on that day.

The reset made the path much easier for players like Artosis. 0% chance of qualifying without reset but maybe 10% chance of qualifying with reset. His problem isn’t the reset, it’s that even when given a much easier path to qualify he still couldn’t meet the new lower MMR requirement.


you spend a lot of time talking about him, which is funny cause the only reason you made it in is the reset as well.

That's the point. The reset let in bad players who played a lot during the early season like me. I wouldn't have made it in with 2300 either. Artosis complained about the reset letting in bad players who massgamed without noting that he is exactly the kind of player who could only get in that way. That's why it's funny.


I don't see a single bad player from pre-reset ladder qualification. Even you are not bad, even if you say so.
But i agree, that at the start of a new season in Korea is impossible to gain high mmr for Artosis.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-21 17:45:41
February 21 2021 17:45 GMT
#151
On February 22 2021 01:42 Hatchet_man wrote:
We are really sorry, but Ro24 group draw is postponed until tomorrow.

the mistery of who got in continues then!

at which hour will the draw happen may I ask?
Hatchet_man
Profile Joined December 2013
Russian Federation249 Posts
February 21 2021 18:54 GMT
#152
Scheduled to start at 20:00 CET
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4267 Posts
February 21 2021 20:41 GMT
#153
On February 22 2021 03:54 Hatchet_man wrote:
Scheduled to start at 20:00 CET

okay, thanks!
DiMiaN
Profile Joined October 2013
Finland306 Posts
February 22 2021 07:38 GMT
#154
On February 22 2021 02:26 iFU.spx wrote:
But i agree, that at the start of a new season in Korea is impossible to gain high mmr for Artosis.

This.
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-22 13:26:43
February 22 2021 13:21 GMT
#155
On February 22 2021 02:04 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2021 01:24 9-BiT wrote:
On February 22 2021 00:48 KwarK wrote:
On February 21 2021 17:48 DiMiaN wrote:
Sad Artosis didnt make it. He had a good chance before ladder reset. After reset he faced couple pro koreans so was a huge struggle to even get to A rank for him...

Ladder reset substantially improved his chances. With no reset the MMR required would have likely gone up to 2350-2400 due to EU inflation, late season inflation, and the sheer number of good players applying. I got 2300 NA and there are plenty of players better than me, 2300 would not have been enough.

The reset reserved 17 slots for players who mass gamed early in the season which left a lot of the strongest players ineligible. Dewalt wasn’t eligible for one of those 17 slots, for example. That brought the MMR requirement down from 2350+ to 2250.

Artosis had a 0% chance of getting in without a reset, he is simply not capable of getting the MMR required in that scenario. But he mass games early season and had a fairly good chance of getting in from the easier path with the reset. He could have potentially had 2250 on that day.

The reset made the path much easier for players like Artosis. 0% chance of qualifying without reset but maybe 10% chance of qualifying with reset. His problem isn’t the reset, it’s that even when given a much easier path to qualify he still couldn’t meet the new lower MMR requirement.

Chill dude, this level of obsession is supremely offputting.

This is a difficult comment to respond to, both because of the idea that responding to someone else bringing up Artosis in a space I was already in is obsession and the implicit assumption that I wouldn't want to put you off. I'll address the first by saying that I didn't come here to talk about Artosis, I was already here, someone else brought him up, I was just pointing out the obvious flaw with the idea that Artosis was somehow hurt by a change that let lower skill massgamers into BSL more easily. Regarding the second, if me responding to someone else about Artosis puts you off me then I view that as an absolute good. I don't know where you got the idea that I want you to want to fuck me but rest assured, I don't. This isn't going to happen between us. My tl posting was never intended to turn you on and if it's failing to turn you on I don't have a problem with that.

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First of all I didn’t read all that shit, second of all I wouldn’t believe you even if I did.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1945 Posts
February 22 2021 14:15 GMT
#156
can I just say how funny it is to me that you say that the level of obsession is offputting yet you have logs of people talking about kwark as well as his msg(tweet I'm assuming?) in your TL.net signature?
I don't believe you.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44203 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-22 14:23:46
February 22 2021 14:20 GMT
#157
It's chat logs from my twitch account.
https://tl.net/forum/bw-tournaments/94532-icc-who-is-who-season-9?page=49#964

The fact that he went to this much trouble though really does imply that he's upset that I don't want to fuck him. Going through chat logs and taking a bunch of screenshots is stalkery behaviour. Dude, just no.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Comedy
Profile Joined March 2016
469 Posts
February 22 2021 15:06 GMT
#158
And what does it say about you that you sit there on an alt in artosis twitch chat propping yourself up? Lol....
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44203 Posts
February 22 2021 15:14 GMT
#159
On February 23 2021 00:06 Comedy wrote:
And what does it say about you that you sit there on an alt in artosis twitch chat propping yourself up? Lol....

It’s not a secret ID, it’s an ID I’ve used for bw a lot, and the date stamps show that I say something in like 5% of all his streams.

It says that I sometimes watch his stream and sometimes comment. With a baby I can’t always play bw so I sometimes put bw streams on the tv at night. Sometimes that’s his stream.

Honestly I think the most shocking thing there is that I beat action.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Comedy
Profile Joined March 2016
469 Posts
February 22 2021 15:14 GMT
#160
On February 23 2021 00:14 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2021 00:06 Comedy wrote:
And what does it say about you that you sit there on an alt in artosis twitch chat propping yourself up? Lol....

It’s not a secret ID, it’s an ID I’ve used for bw a lot, and the date stamps show that I say something in like 5% of all his streams.

It says that I sometimes watch his stream and sometimes comment. With a baby I can’t always play bw so I sometimes put bw streams on the tv at night. Sometimes that’s his stream.

Honestly I think the most shocking thing there is that I beat action.


can you stop clowning bro, he drone rushed you so yeah of course you won that game. jesus christ
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