With the lower standard of computers and the less than broadband internet, this could create the worlds first demand for an Africa battle.net server or a Latin America server. That is exciting. We could end up with hundreds of millions of newly connected users and possibly ten of thousands of newcomers for our community.
BW fans still hoping that there's some hidden/ostracized fanbase of the game that can't join ladder. hahahaha
“Speed will double to ~300Mb/s & latency will drop to ~20ms later this year,” Musk said in a tweet on Monday. Musk added that Starlink will reach customers around “most” of the Earth by the end of 2021, and is expecting to have complete global coverage “by next year.” Feb 2021
On March 01 2021 02:33 sntct wrote: “Speed will double to ~300Mb/s & latency will drop to ~20ms later this year,” Musk said in a tweet on Monday. Musk added that Starlink will reach customers around “most” of the Earth by the end of 2021, and is expecting to have complete global coverage “by next year.” Feb 2021
Yes, but 1) latency depends on distance 2) we need a test from someone who has access to starlink.
I mean The difference between Starlink and other satellite internet is that Starlink uses way lower orbits which is only possible if you deploy a crapton of satellites (which they are doing). With lower orbit you reduce travel distance => travel time. this will potentially have a huge impact on long distance (i.e. intercontitental) connections and ofc would not be very effective for short distance (i.e. region-based) connections.
On March 01 2021 02:33 sntct wrote: “Speed will double to ~300Mb/s & latency will drop to ~20ms later this year,” Musk said in a tweet on Monday. Musk added that Starlink will reach customers around “most” of the Earth by the end of 2021, and is expecting to have complete global coverage “by next year.” Feb 2021
Yes, but 1) latency depends on distance 2) we need a test from someone who has access to starlink.
There are probably hundreds of reviews at this point. Do you guys know how to do the smallest amount of research?
SpaceX noted in that FCC filing that Starlink’s service is “meeting and exceeding 100/20 megabits per second (‘Mbps’) throughput to individual users,” while most users were seeing latency “at or below 31 milliseconds.”
ok cool, 60 ms for a game in the VOD, but doesn't say a word about the very specific need, which is connection to Korea and how Starlink reacts to Peer to Peer type of connection
SpaceX plans to begin a public beta test of Starlink once the private beta test concludes. The company aims to offer Starlink as a commercial service before the end of this year in the northern U.S. and southern Canada, with plans for “near-global coverage of the populated world in 2021.”
Musk added that Starlink will reach customers around “most” of the Earth by the end of 2021, and is expecting to have complete global coverage “by next year.”
But even with that if the remote has Peru level connexion, Starlink will still be pretty useless for low latency P2P online gaming. Latency depends also of the number of nodes data traverse, type of hardware and the software it runs, traffic congestion, also weather condition is an important factor when it comes to communication quality. Is there any given spec regarding the wireless technology? I assume microwave but at what frequency? This is important to know depending the location you live in.
They have a pretty active and enthusiastic reddit. So I think asking there would be more fruitful than arguing about it in here.
It's still in early stages so I doubt we'll know its full potential for large distances between nodes. One thing that is worth noting is that Musk doesn't give a crap about milking users for money with substandard offerings so chances are the service will receive pretty rapid improvements as they optimize it.
Starlink won't help to improve latency and will be useless in our case. This is the explanation:
"Anything over a large geographic distance will have increased latency regardless of starlink or not. Starlink is connecting you to a ground station near you, at which point it is then routed like a normal terrestrial connection.
In a situation where there are no ground stations, laser links will be used to connect you to the nearest one, and this can add upwards of 50ms latency to the trip.
As the end user, we have no control over the laser links, or ground stations, therefore you would see no benefit to latency travelling half way around the globe.
As for exactly how much latency gets added and if it's playable, I can't really help you with unfortunately.
Your ground station is essentially your home base that will never change unless a new ground station is built. The destination of your traffic has no effect on this.
So basically if you are in Germany and using starlink and starting a game with a guy in South Korea, the signal will go
roughly like this: You (Germany) -> Starlink (space) -> Closest to YOU ground station (probably Germany) -> earth cables -> Opponent (South Korea)
and NOT like this: You (Germany) -> Starlink (space) -> Closest to OPPONENT ground station (probably South Korea) -> Opponent (South Korea)"
On November 22 2023 01:33 iFU.spx wrote: To conclude this topic if anyone still interested
Starlink won't help to improve latency and will be useless in our case. This is the explanation:
"Anything over a large geographic distance will have increased latency regardless of starlink or not. Starlink is connecting you to a ground station near you, at which point it is then routed like a normal terrestrial connection.
In a situation where there are no ground stations, laser links will be used to connect you to the nearest one, and this can add upwards of 50ms latency to the trip.
As the end user, we have no control over the laser links, or ground stations, therefore you would see no benefit to latency travelling half way around the globe.
As for exactly how much latency gets added and if it's playable, I can't really help you with unfortunately.
Your ground station is essentially your home base that will never change unless a new ground station is built. The destination of your traffic has no effect on this.
So basically if you are in Germany and using starlink and starting a game with a guy in South Korea, the signal will go
roughly like this: You (Germany) -> Starlink (space) -> Closest to YOU ground station (probably Germany) -> earth cables -> Opponent (South Korea)
and NOT like this: You (Germany) -> Starlink (space) -> Closest to OPPONENT ground station (probably South Korea) -> Opponent (South Korea)"
GG
AFAIK, this is only true of the old Starlink satellites. Newer satellites should have a crosslink feature, which should enable satellite-to-satellite communication. I'm not sure what % of satellites have that at the moment, or even if those who do have it are using it, but the idea is for this to be commonplace eventually.
EDIT: Found this email they sent to the Starlink users in Australia over a year ago:
“STARLINK The Starlink team is currently servicing your location using inter-satellite links (aka space lasers). Space lasers allow Starlink satellites to connect directly to one another, eliminating the need for a local ground station and enabling Starlink to deliver service to some of the most remote locations in the world_like Antarctica. The Starlink team is the first to deploy space laser technology at this scale, and your location is among the first to receive this service. As one of the first, we encourage you to share your feedback. In particular, if you are experiencing spotty service or periods of poor connectivity, please reach out to our Support team. Both the performance and capacity of our space lasers will improve dramatically between now and the end of the year, which will increase the reliability of your connection and allow us to bring even more remote users online. If for any reason you are not satisfied with your Starlink service, you can return the hardware within 30 days for a full refund. As always, you can cancel at any time on your account page. Thank you for your support and we look forward to seeing you online! The Starlink Team SIGN IN TO MY ACCOUNT Space Exploration Technologies Corp | 1 Rocket Road, Hawthorne, CA 90250 Questions? See Starlink FAQs”
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