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Tuggback
Profile Joined August 2020
Sweden9 Posts
May 04 2021 19:22 GMT
#521
Hello! There is a player called I_I+I_I who always comes back to 647 mmr no mather if he loses or wins. I avoid playing games with this player so it is a little bit annoying when he joins a game because it makes it unbalanced. Can you fix please?
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
May 05 2021 08:03 GMT
#522
On May 03 2021 04:10 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2021 19:29 MeSaber wrote:
On April 29 2021 04:10 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
On April 27 2021 04:56 Rosettenzerrung wrote:
3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-04-26 21:14

Really bad mannered speaking by Angel. "son of a bitch" ... and so on.

Do you need the replay?


Banned.



What is the idea of banning people if they just change their name?

"Angel. " is now playing under name " Angels. " and doing the exact same thing.

http://bghmmr.eu/player.php?player=Angels..


I can't really keep people from playing those games but losing stats should be enough motivation to avoid team killing and trash talking.

Show nested quote +
On May 02 2021 03:30 kurrrak wrote:
On April 30 2021 19:29 MeSaber wrote:
On April 29 2021 04:10 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
On April 27 2021 04:56 Rosettenzerrung wrote:
3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-04-26 21:14

Really bad mannered speaking by Angel. "son of a bitch" ... and so on.

Do you need the replay?


Banned.



What is the idea of banning people if they just change their name?

"Angel. " is now playing under name " Angels. " and doing the exact same thing.

http://bghmmr.eu/player.php?player=Angels..


I don't recall being bad mannered in words as a reason for ban, unless rules changed. If this is the case I have 30 more players to report. I think banning Angel causes the precedent for more of crybabies reporting everything what causes their in-game frustration (Angel's cannon rushing in this case).


Bad manners were used as the reason for bans before. At the same time I want to avoid people reporting every instance of one player calling someone else noob. I think a good rule would be to only ban people who repeatedly use vulgar language towards other players.


Well you could ban based on BattleTag. Using /f a *name* trick you can get their BattleTag i.e /f a Angels. , go to bnet app check "sent friend requests" and there you have it.

Since i last mentioned this he has played 80+ games so he seems keen of playing it.

I dont hate the guy (why would i, its a game) but he does the exact same thing every game: Tell everyone what to do and if you dont obey ure a noob/idiot/bitch, does his cannon thing then leaves if it fails miserably so he cant recover.

Im guessing these games dont get reported/displayed as they are so short.

Only reason im vouching for a tempban system is because it will make the servers so much more enjoyable if there are some etiquette and im pretty sure most would agree to that, except the ones who are the culprit ofc.

Dynamic Turn Rate is still crap and i need to bring this up again. Games can be a bit suttery and they suddenly drop to TR8 and the game is over, not enjoyable by any means. Sometimes it even locks into TR24 with stutter and ive no idea whats going on there but thats another problem with DTR, its not fool proof by design. Someone having weird connection like a 56k modem makes the game drop more than it needs to, you can even notice the same stutter on Low/High/Xhigh even though TR hasnt changed. Some people just have a weird stuttery connection and that makes DTR fail completely.

If you want me to stop the feedback be my guest and tell me. Im just explaining my experience so far.

-.-
D3AD-R3TARD
Profile Joined April 2020
Poland310 Posts
May 05 2021 09:43 GMT
#523
On May 05 2021 04:22 Tuggback wrote:
Hello! There is a player called I_I+I_I who always comes back to 647 mmr no mather if he loses or wins. I avoid playing games with this player so it is a little bit annoying when he joins a game because it makes it unbalanced. Can you fix please?


Yeah, I'm aware of this. There seems to be some problem with the database not liking this combination of letters. I'll try to correct this.

On May 05 2021 17:03 MeSaber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2021 04:10 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
On April 30 2021 19:29 MeSaber wrote:
On April 29 2021 04:10 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
On April 27 2021 04:56 Rosettenzerrung wrote:
3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-04-26 21:14

Really bad mannered speaking by Angel. "son of a bitch" ... and so on.

Do you need the replay?


Banned.



What is the idea of banning people if they just change their name?

"Angel. " is now playing under name " Angels. " and doing the exact same thing.

http://bghmmr.eu/player.php?player=Angels..


I can't really keep people from playing those games but losing stats should be enough motivation to avoid team killing and trash talking.

On May 02 2021 03:30 kurrrak wrote:
On April 30 2021 19:29 MeSaber wrote:
On April 29 2021 04:10 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
On April 27 2021 04:56 Rosettenzerrung wrote:
3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-04-26 21:14

Really bad mannered speaking by Angel. "son of a bitch" ... and so on.

Do you need the replay?


Banned.



What is the idea of banning people if they just change their name?

"Angel. " is now playing under name " Angels. " and doing the exact same thing.

http://bghmmr.eu/player.php?player=Angels..


I don't recall being bad mannered in words as a reason for ban, unless rules changed. If this is the case I have 30 more players to report. I think banning Angel causes the precedent for more of crybabies reporting everything what causes their in-game frustration (Angel's cannon rushing in this case).


Bad manners were used as the reason for bans before. At the same time I want to avoid people reporting every instance of one player calling someone else noob. I think a good rule would be to only ban people who repeatedly use vulgar language towards other players.


Well you could ban based on BattleTag. Using /f a *name* trick you can get their BattleTag i.e /f a Angels. , go to bnet app check "sent friend requests" and there you have it.

Since i last mentioned this he has played 80+ games so he seems keen of playing it.

I dont hate the guy (why would i, its a game) but he does the exact same thing every game: Tell everyone what to do and if you dont obey ure a noob/idiot/bitch, does his cannon thing then leaves if it fails miserably so he cant recover.

Im guessing these games dont get reported/displayed as they are so short.

Only reason im vouching for a tempban system is because it will make the servers so much more enjoyable if there are some etiquette and im pretty sure most would agree to that, except the ones who are the culprit ofc.

Dynamic Turn Rate is still crap and i need to bring this up again. Games can be a bit suttery and they suddenly drop to TR8 and the game is over, not enjoyable by any means. Sometimes it even locks into TR24 with stutter and ive no idea whats going on there but thats another problem with DTR, its not fool proof by design. Someone having weird connection like a 56k modem makes the game drop more than it needs to, you can even notice the same stutter on Low/High/Xhigh even though TR hasnt changed. Some people just have a weird stuttery connection and that makes DTR fail completely.

If you want me to stop the feedback be my guest and tell me. Im just explaining my experience so far.



As for Angel and other people who use 3 minutes rule to test all-in tactics. I can't think of a good system to punish that. If I remove 3 minute rule completely, game will become more chaotic and MMR system will get less accurate. So that will negatively affect all games.

As for DTR. There was already discussion about this before. And as a result I've tested TR12. There were way more games where people left because of lag than with DTR. So yeah DTR sucks but with TR12 the percentage of unplayable games is higher.

Feedback is very welcome.
https://bghmmr.eu
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
May 05 2021 13:10 GMT
#524
I noticed a bot using TR24. A bug?
-.-
D3AD-R3TARD
Profile Joined April 2020
Poland310 Posts
May 07 2021 10:50 GMT
#525
On May 05 2021 22:10 MeSaber wrote:
I noticed a bot using TR24. A bug?


Yeah, it was a bug. But since it worked I'm testing TR16 now.
https://bghmmr.eu
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
May 07 2021 16:09 GMT
#526
Cool i will try it too
-.-
Rosis_Maus
Profile Joined May 2021
8 Posts
May 13 2021 14:21 GMT
#527
I have to report this game:

3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-05-13 15:35

Unmannered speaking by GhostINTheShell.
Allykill by Massprobe.

Both wanted to force us to ally up GhostINTheShell.

Do you need the replay?
Doppelhelix
Profile Joined February 2021
9 Posts
May 13 2021 18:25 GMT
#528
gamer ID FlrstLady is a teamkiller. he attacked+unallied me in todays game called" 3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-05-13 19:57"
kurrrak
Profile Joined March 2020
Poland144 Posts
May 14 2021 15:45 GMT
#529
On May 03 2021 04:10 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:

I can't really keep people from playing those games but losing stats should be enough motivation to avoid team killing and trash talking.



Since You mentioned tweaking with ranking algorithm few times, shouldn't You be resetting all stats from time to time anyway? I guess after so much changes they are "spoiled" by old algorithms anyway.
my ally is good
Profile Joined October 2020
10 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-15 22:31:04
May 15 2021 21:58 GMT
#530
On November 15 2020 19:21 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
I've found this game. It's here: https://repmastered.app/game/VRQRoHzBnAPDS20qqtLy3t3hGLQHwNYOFOol2lVR2VY?tab=commands. It's apparent that he changed ally settings as the only player. ThePresence is banned.


Please ban him again.

His nickname now is:
Presence

In game at 2021-05-15 23:03 he did same thing as he did many times:
- Starts with photon-only game for whole game.
- Says that he will "f-k up the game".
- Attacked my hatch with his photons. (Team-killing)

Game at 2021-05-16 00:14
- On 3-4 minute he left game for no reason (so his teammates played 2x3)
D3AD-R3TARD
Profile Joined April 2020
Poland310 Posts
May 16 2021 12:22 GMT
#531
On May 13 2021 23:21 Rosis_Maus wrote:
I have to report this game:

3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-05-13 15:35

Unmannered speaking by GhostINTheShell.
Allykill by Massprobe.

Both wanted to force us to ally up GhostINTheShell.

Do you need the replay?


Moassprobe got banned. GhostINTheShell wasn't vulgar and didn't attack team mates, so he wasn't banned.

On May 16 2021 06:58 my ally is good wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2020 19:21 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
I've found this game. It's here: https://repmastered.app/game/VRQRoHzBnAPDS20qqtLy3t3hGLQHwNYOFOol2lVR2VY?tab=commands. It's apparent that he changed ally settings as the only player. ThePresence is banned.


Please ban him again.

His nickname now is:
Presence

In game at 2021-05-15 23:03 he did same thing as he did many times:
- Starts with photon-only game for whole game.
- Says that he will "f-k up the game".
- Attacked my hatch with his photons. (Team-killing)

Game at 2021-05-16 00:14
- On 3-4 minute he left game for no reason (so his teammates played 2x3)


Presence banned.

On May 14 2021 03:25 Doppelhelix wrote:
gamer ID FlrstLady is a teamkiller. he attacked+unallied me in todays game called" 3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-05-13 19:57"


Banned
https://bghmmr.eu
BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria490 Posts
May 17 2021 19:58 GMT
#532
I am just dropping by to say one huge THANK YOU to the creator of the app/bots who from what I gather is D3AD-R3TARD. It's been a while since i've had so much fun playing bgh games and the ranks give you this fuzzy ladder feeling like ice cream to a child. Also my impression is that the bots are very well developed and are near perfect hosts so kudos for the implementation!
music is the best thing in the world
D3AD-R3TARD
Profile Joined April 2020
Poland310 Posts
May 18 2021 08:00 GMT
#533
On May 15 2021 00:45 kurrrak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2021 04:10 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:

I can't really keep people from playing those games but losing stats should be enough motivation to avoid team killing and trash talking.



Since You mentioned tweaking with ranking algorithm few times, shouldn't You be resetting all stats from time to time anyway? I guess after so much changes they are "spoiled" by old algorithms anyway.


The system is self-correcting. Meaning that after small changes to rules, players' MMR will slowly move to correct value. So there is no need for resetting all scores.

On May 18 2021 04:58 BulgarianToss wrote:
I am just dropping by to say one huge THANK YOU to the creator of the app/bots who from what I gather is D3AD-R3TARD. It's been a while since i've had so much fun playing bgh games and the ranks give you this fuzzy ladder feeling like ice cream to a child. Also my impression is that the bots are very well developed and are near perfect hosts so kudos for the implementation!


Thanks, glad to hear that.
https://bghmmr.eu
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
May 18 2021 08:39 GMT
#534
Is there no way of automating the teamkilling bans? No data in the replays that shows one player attacked another?

There are ofc cases where you do want to kill your teams buildings/units.
-.-
Razmagul
Profile Joined May 2021
1 Post
May 18 2021 13:50 GMT
#535
Any chance of extending the time a bit? At least till 23:00? I play with a couple of friends every Friday and we start at 21:00 - when kids finally fall asleep and finish after midnight. I think that there will be many interested for extension on Friday and Saturday.
sTYleZerG-eX
Profile Joined January 2010
Mexico473 Posts
May 19 2021 14:32 GMT
#536
This is nice
10%
D3AD-R3TARD
Profile Joined April 2020
Poland310 Posts
May 23 2021 18:37 GMT
#537
On May 18 2021 17:39 MeSaber wrote:
Is there no way of automating the teamkilling bans? No data in the replays that shows one player attacked another?

There are ofc cases where you do want to kill your teams buildings/units.


Replay should contain info on players changing teams, but I’m not sure about automating the process. People can still kill by selecting units/buildings to attack, so we still need a manual banning process.

On May 18 2021 22:50 Razmagul wrote:
Any chance of extending the time a bit? At least till 23:00? I play with a couple of friends every Friday and we start at 21:00 - when kids finally fall asleep and finish after midnight. I think that there will be many interested for extension on Friday and Saturday.


Lately the bots run 24/7. Sometimes one or two will hang, but usually there are games going all day.
https://bghmmr.eu
Rosettenzerrung
Profile Joined February 2021
21 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-02 19:23:20
June 01 2021 20:32 GMT
#538
3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-06-01 22:08

Maphack by [no one]

At 03:00 mins: Stacked probes are sliding from pos 1 to pos 3 without seeing minerals at 3. Sliding for probes is only possible if you target minerals, isn´t it?


Edited by Rosettenzerrung. It was a false report!
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-02 06:04:45
June 02 2021 06:01 GMT
#539
Sadly no. Stack-attack can be done with gas. Its a bug and often used in BGH games. No rules against it afaik.
-.-
Rosettenzerrung
Profile Joined February 2021
21 Posts
June 02 2021 19:21 GMT
#540
OK. So I have to apologise. I am very sorry for that report.

At first I have to stack them while mining and then move them to gas?
How can I move stacked probes over the map?
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