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On April 20 2021 22:01 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2021 02:18 psyCrowe wrote:My last match maybe around 1 hour ago wasn't reported as win. Does it catch up?  psyCrowe[ReV] , wraithx , MAR7IS)LT vs Peng0122 , BlackGold , bono75008 Sorry, bot disconnected. Sometimes bot disconnects even after game was over. As for now disconnects are not counted.
This is bad news. The bot disconnected again, and once again a hard fought victory is not counted ... If I had known this I would of saved the hassle of fighting through the laggy game and just left. I'm assuming the bot is contributing to the lag here.
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I wonder what it would take to get this running on us-west? If OP would be willing and the costs to run the bots/servers?
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On April 23 2021 06:44 bakedace wrote:
I wonder what it would take to get this running on us-west? If OP would be willing and the costs to run the bots/servers?
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On April 12 2020 19:20 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2020 06:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Is there a plan to have this on West as well? It seems like a great feature.
Though it seems like all we need on West for quality high level BGH games is to have teams balanced so one team speaks English and the other team speaks Spanish I would like to have those leagues on other servers as well but because of lag that might be difficult in host mode. It is possible in client mode. That would require users to host games themselves and later upload replays. This app would only provide balancing mechanism and database/webapp. The problem with this approach is that its prone to hacking/cheat so I'm not sure it is the right way to go. BTW. I've changed mmr calculation mechanism to include player APM in setting the initial score (first 4 games). Later mmr changes are only dependent on match results. All scores were recalculated. Also listings contain now average eAPM for every player.
On April 14 2020 04:17 JiYan wrote:
this would be awesome on west!
On November 04 2020 02:33 badbeatpete wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2020 21:22 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
That would make access to games uneven for players, meaning that higher ranked players could have more games to play than lower ranking ones... That's true but I figured it would still be preferable since all types of players could get the type of games they enjoy playing. From reading recent posts in this thread it seems like there is a significant number of high rank players that dropped out (or started smurfing) once their ally quality becomes too low. By the way, have you ever considered running the bots on West since the player base is larger there? There are a lot of players that never played on Europe and don't know about this ladder. Sorry if you've already addressed this.
On January 18 2021 22:26 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2021 05:34 Epocalypse wrote:
Dear D3AD-R3TARD,
Three questions:
1) Would you consider running the bots on the West server?
Here's my thinking
— There are more active BGH players on the West server
— There average skill level seems to be slightly higher on West
— At the same time, there are players of all skill levels on West
2) Would it be possible to implement some kind of MMR exclusion algorithm that would kick a player whose MMR is too far from the average MMR of the game?
— For example, when everyone is over 2000MMR except one player is 600MMR.
— Or create a "B+" or "A+" bot?
3) What would it take to get another bot running and how can the community support your initiative?
Thank you in advance, and kudos for for your brilliance! 1) Because of lag, running on West server is troublesome. I might consider it in the future but first I want to set up more EU instances. 2) Yes, but I don't know if people will like it. For instance, it would ban the best players all the time... Without them, this ladder will make no sense. In addition, it would make the system less transparent to users and from my experience, the simpler it is the more people join. 3) I just need some more spare time to work on this
On February 14 2021 02:28 HaruHaru wrote:
Is there something similar for the US West server?
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On January 13 2021 05:58 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I'm guessing if you guys want this on west, then an american should host it. A european bot hosting 3v3 bgh games on west would probably result in tr8 extra high being the norm.
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On April 23 2021 08:05 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2021 06:44 bakedace wrote:
I wonder what it would take to get this running on us-west? If OP would be willing and the costs to run the bots/servers? --- Show nested quote +On April 12 2020 19:20 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:On April 12 2020 06:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Is there a plan to have this on West as well? It seems like a great feature.
Though it seems like all we need on West for quality high level BGH games is to have teams balanced so one team speaks English and the other team speaks Spanish I would like to have those leagues on other servers as well but because of lag that might be difficult in host mode. It is possible in client mode. That would require users to host games themselves and later upload replays. This app would only provide balancing mechanism and database/webapp. The problem with this approach is that its prone to hacking/cheat so I'm not sure it is the right way to go. BTW. I've changed mmr calculation mechanism to include player APM in setting the initial score (first 4 games). Later mmr changes are only dependent on match results. All scores were recalculated. Also listings contain now average eAPM for every player. Show nested quote +On November 04 2020 02:33 badbeatpete wrote:On November 03 2020 21:22 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
That would make access to games uneven for players, meaning that higher ranked players could have more games to play than lower ranking ones... That's true but I figured it would still be preferable since all types of players could get the type of games they enjoy playing. From reading recent posts in this thread it seems like there is a significant number of high rank players that dropped out (or started smurfing) once their ally quality becomes too low. By the way, have you ever considered running the bots on West since the player base is larger there? There are a lot of players that never played on Europe and don't know about this ladder. Sorry if you've already addressed this. Show nested quote +On January 18 2021 22:26 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:On January 13 2021 05:34 Epocalypse wrote:
Dear D3AD-R3TARD,
Three questions:
1) Would you consider running the bots on the West server?
Here's my thinking
— There are more active BGH players on the West server
— There average skill level seems to be slightly higher on West
— At the same time, there are players of all skill levels on West
2) Would it be possible to implement some kind of MMR exclusion algorithm that would kick a player whose MMR is too far from the average MMR of the game?
— For example, when everyone is over 2000MMR except one player is 600MMR.
— Or create a "B+" or "A+" bot?
3) What would it take to get another bot running and how can the community support your initiative?
Thank you in advance, and kudos for for your brilliance! 1) Because of lag, running on West server is troublesome. I might consider it in the future but first I want to set up more EU instances. 2) Yes, but I don't know if people will like it. For instance, it would ban the best players all the time... Without them, this ladder will make no sense. In addition, it would make the system less transparent to users and from my experience, the simpler it is the more people join. 3) I just need some more spare time to work on this Show nested quote +On February 14 2021 02:28 HaruHaru wrote:
Is there something similar for the US West server? --- Show nested quote +On January 13 2021 05:58 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I'm guessing if you guys want this on west, then an american should host it. A european bot hosting 3v3 bgh games on west would probably result in tr8 extra high being the norm.
yep.. I ask that with the idea that I would be willing to host.
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On April 23 2021 16:32 bakedace wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2021 08:05 Jealous wrote:On April 23 2021 06:44 bakedace wrote:
I wonder what it would take to get this running on us-west? If OP would be willing and the costs to run the bots/servers? --- On April 12 2020 19:20 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:On April 12 2020 06:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Is there a plan to have this on West as well? It seems like a great feature.
Though it seems like all we need on West for quality high level BGH games is to have teams balanced so one team speaks English and the other team speaks Spanish I would like to have those leagues on other servers as well but because of lag that might be difficult in host mode. It is possible in client mode. That would require users to host games themselves and later upload replays. This app would only provide balancing mechanism and database/webapp. The problem with this approach is that its prone to hacking/cheat so I'm not sure it is the right way to go. BTW. I've changed mmr calculation mechanism to include player APM in setting the initial score (first 4 games). Later mmr changes are only dependent on match results. All scores were recalculated. Also listings contain now average eAPM for every player. On April 14 2020 04:17 JiYan wrote:
this would be awesome on west! On November 04 2020 02:33 badbeatpete wrote:On November 03 2020 21:22 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
That would make access to games uneven for players, meaning that higher ranked players could have more games to play than lower ranking ones... That's true but I figured it would still be preferable since all types of players could get the type of games they enjoy playing. From reading recent posts in this thread it seems like there is a significant number of high rank players that dropped out (or started smurfing) once their ally quality becomes too low. By the way, have you ever considered running the bots on West since the player base is larger there? There are a lot of players that never played on Europe and don't know about this ladder. Sorry if you've already addressed this. On January 18 2021 22:26 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:On January 13 2021 05:34 Epocalypse wrote:
Dear D3AD-R3TARD,
Three questions:
1) Would you consider running the bots on the West server?
Here's my thinking
— There are more active BGH players on the West server
— There average skill level seems to be slightly higher on West
— At the same time, there are players of all skill levels on West
2) Would it be possible to implement some kind of MMR exclusion algorithm that would kick a player whose MMR is too far from the average MMR of the game?
— For example, when everyone is over 2000MMR except one player is 600MMR.
— Or create a "B+" or "A+" bot?
3) What would it take to get another bot running and how can the community support your initiative?
Thank you in advance, and kudos for for your brilliance! 1) Because of lag, running on West server is troublesome. I might consider it in the future but first I want to set up more EU instances. 2) Yes, but I don't know if people will like it. For instance, it would ban the best players all the time... Without them, this ladder will make no sense. In addition, it would make the system less transparent to users and from my experience, the simpler it is the more people join. 3) I just need some more spare time to work on this On February 14 2021 02:28 HaruHaru wrote:
Is there something similar for the US West server? --- On January 13 2021 05:58 Liquid`Drone wrote:
I'm guessing if you guys want this on west, then an american should host it. A european bot hosting 3v3 bgh games on west would probably result in tr8 extra high being the norm. yep.. I ask that with the idea that I would be willing to host.
Apologies for misunderstanding 
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3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-04-26 21:14
Really bad mannered speaking by Angel. "son of a bitch" ... and so on.
Do you need the replay?
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3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-04-27 21:45
Player Angel. left the game after his try for a canon rush failed. Bot does not report the result.
Is this a legal trick to avoid a loss? Only play the complete match if canon rush worked? If not, just leave?
Do you need the replay?
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Angel. been reported multiple times but seems he knows how to avoid the banhammer.
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Every time this thread bumps up I play a game of BGH.
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@koget do it on stream for the fans! 
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On April 27 2021 04:56 Rosettenzerrung wrote:
3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-04-26 21:14
Really bad mannered speaking by Angel. "son of a bitch" ... and so on.
Do you need the replay?
Banned.
On April 28 2021 04:51 Rosettenzerrung wrote:
3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-04-27 21:45
Player Angel. left the game after his try for a canon rush failed. Bot does not report the result.
Is this a legal trick to avoid a loss? Only play the complete match if canon rush worked? If not, just leave?
Do you need the replay?
When someone leaves before 3 minute mark the game is not valid, also if all players leave before 5 minutes. This is in place, so all-in tactics don't affect players' MMR.
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Rastamasta and Savageboy both leaving once game has started. While we even spoke earlier about people who left after game has started and then they do the same after chatting about it xD
Replays: https://ufile.io/f/t3f4f
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On April 29 2021 04:10 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2021 04:51 Rosettenzerrung wrote:
3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-04-27 21:45
Player Angel. left the game after his try for a canon rush failed. Bot does not report the result.
Is this a legal trick to avoid a loss? Only play the complete match if canon rush worked? If not, just leave?
Do you need the replay? When someone leaves before 3 minute mark the game is not valid, also if all players leave before 5 minutes. This is in place, so all-in tactics don't affect players' MMR.
Thanks a lot. I think that these rules make sense. But it is always annoying if someone takes advantage of it.
At the end we will not change their minds.
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Cute bug. It didnt balance
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/EKJeoqN.png)
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On April 29 2021 04:10 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2021 04:56 Rosettenzerrung wrote:
3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-04-26 21:14
Really bad mannered speaking by Angel. "son of a bitch" ... and so on.
Do you need the replay? Banned.
What is the idea of banning people if they just change their name?
"Angel. " is now playing under name " Angels. " and doing the exact same thing.
http://bghmmr.eu/player.php?player=Angels..
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On April 30 2021 19:29 MeSaber wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2021 04:10 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:On April 27 2021 04:56 Rosettenzerrung wrote:
3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-04-26 21:14
Really bad mannered speaking by Angel. "son of a bitch" ... and so on.
Do you need the replay? Banned. What is the idea of banning people if they just change their name? "Angel. " is now playing under name " Angels. " and doing the exact same thing. http://bghmmr.eu/player.php?player=Angels..
I don't recall being bad mannered in words as a reason for ban, unless rules changed. If this is the case I have 30 more players to report. I think banning Angel causes the precedent for more of crybabies reporting everything what causes their in-game frustration (Angel's cannon rushing in this case).
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I disagree your excellency.
Angel has played over 1000 games of bghmmr and should be able to behave like a normal person, instead he talks shit at all times and leaves games he dont like or seem to have lost after 2-3 minutes.
There should be some quality standard.
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maybe temp ban is the solution there
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On May 02 2021 03:49 MeSaber wrote:
I disagree your excellency.
Angel has played over 1000 games of bghmmr and should be able to behave like a normal person, instead he talks shit at all times and leaves games he dont like or seem to have lost after 2-3 minutes.
There should be some quality standard.
Maybe we played with different Angels, because I haven't seen him "talking shit" even once.
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On April 30 2021 19:29 MeSaber wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2021 04:10 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:On April 27 2021 04:56 Rosettenzerrung wrote:
3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-04-26 21:14
Really bad mannered speaking by Angel. "son of a bitch" ... and so on.
Do you need the replay? Banned. What is the idea of banning people if they just change their name? "Angel. " is now playing under name " Angels. " and doing the exact same thing. http://bghmmr.eu/player.php?player=Angels..
I can't really keep people from playing those games but losing stats should be enough motivation to avoid team killing and trash talking.
On May 02 2021 03:30 kurrrak wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2021 19:29 MeSaber wrote:On April 29 2021 04:10 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:On April 27 2021 04:56 Rosettenzerrung wrote:
3x3 Big Game Hunters match played on 2021-04-26 21:14
Really bad mannered speaking by Angel. "son of a bitch" ... and so on.
Do you need the replay? Banned. What is the idea of banning people if they just change their name? "Angel. " is now playing under name " Angels. " and doing the exact same thing. http://bghmmr.eu/player.php?player=Angels.. I don't recall being bad mannered in words as a reason for ban, unless rules changed. If this is the case I have 30 more players to report. I think banning Angel causes the precedent for more of crybabies reporting everything what causes their in-game frustration (Angel's cannon rushing in this case).
Bad manners were used as the reason for bans before. At the same time I want to avoid people reporting every instance of one player calling someone else noob. I think a good rule would be to only ban people who repeatedly use vulgar language towards other players.
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