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Yeah, I noticed the same a few days ago, Trismegist leaving before start, when in the same team as his possible mate.
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Hi, everyone
Darrel and sindbad got banned. As for Trismegist I don't have proof that he is playing two players at the same time, so I won't ban him for now. I don't yet have a mechanism for preventing that, but it seems that one is needed.
I think I've finally fixed the "+" thing. Open+ is now ranked B
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Going easy on him with that rank B xD
Hes wasted so many points from others that he should be ranked S and get shit allies for a year.
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Wormer is absolutely right, Trismegist and sindbad are teammates. Sindbad kill teamplayers, so that Trismegist get more mmr points. And for your prove: Trismegist was the first 120 bgh bot games c rank, look at his played games under bghmmr.eu, there you can see: he jumped from c rank quickly to a rank after he played games with sindbad, isnt this prove enough? Who can jump from C rank to A rank after just a few games after being c rank the first 120 games? Plus...its not enough to ban sindbad, because after new account+20 games he can help Trismegist again to get more points. So the solution to stop it is to ban Trismegist too. Also: the games where Trismegist+sindbad were in the same game, Trismegist leaves after the game started, cause he knows the bot will restart and he just rejoin till Trismegist+sindbad are on different teams. Plus...check his gamelist played on bghmmr, theres not even 1 single game Trismegist+sindbad on the same team, if its just too obvious, it also counts as prove, and i want to PLEASE all other players who experienced the same just to take only 5 MINUTES to register and write it down to STOP THEM.
Thanks!
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by the way: my account name in broodwar is KeKe^^, but "^^" is forbidden as a sign.
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On July 07 2021 15:08 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
Darrel and sindbad got banned. As for Trismegist I don't have proof that he is playing two players at the same time, so I won't ban him for now. I don't yet have a mechanism for preventing that, but it seems that one is needed.
Well, it's your call obviously, but if you look at the records of sindbad, Darrel and Piramid you'll find that they teamkilled pretty much all of their games - and every game they team killed in Trismegist was on the opposite team to them.
Trismegist is the obvious person benefiting from the ally killing. And even if he wasn't directly paired with these accounts, why would someone keep playing in games with team killers who ruin games?
They clearly don't care about their alt accounts being banned, and will continue to make new ones until they don't benefit from it anymore.
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On July 07 2021 20:39 Tempest(DLS) wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2021 15:08 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
Darrel and sindbad got banned. As for Trismegist I don't have proof that he is playing two players at the same time, so I won't ban him for now. I don't yet have a mechanism for preventing that, but it seems that one is needed.
Well, it's your call obviously, but if you look at the records of sindbad, Darrel and Piramid you'll find that they teamkilled pretty much all of their games - and every game they team killed in Trismegist was on the opposite team to them. Trismegist is the obvious person benefiting from the ally killing. And even if he wasn't directly paired with these accounts, why would someone keep playing in games with team killers who ruin games? They clearly don't care about their alt accounts being banned, and will continue to make new ones until they don't benefit from it anymore.
The problem with banning everyone who benefits from team kill in opponent's team is that, anyone can join 2-3 games with players they don't like, do a team kill and then report it.
As well as you guys, I am pretty convinced that Trismegist was behind those team kills, but banning him would create a precedent and a loophole for banning other players. So for now, I want to test if closing those team killing accounts and forcing those people to win 20 games for a couple of fake wins will work.
If this doesn't work, I'll think of some other measures to stop that.
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On July 07 2021 23:49 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2021 20:39 Tempest(DLS) wrote:On July 07 2021 15:08 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
Darrel and sindbad got banned. As for Trismegist I don't have proof that he is playing two players at the same time, so I won't ban him for now. I don't yet have a mechanism for preventing that, but it seems that one is needed.
Well, it's your call obviously, but if you look at the records of sindbad, Darrel and Piramid you'll find that they teamkilled pretty much all of their games - and every game they team killed in Trismegist was on the opposite team to them. Trismegist is the obvious person benefiting from the ally killing. And even if he wasn't directly paired with these accounts, why would someone keep playing in games with team killers who ruin games? They clearly don't care about their alt accounts being banned, and will continue to make new ones until they don't benefit from it anymore. The problem with banning everyone who benefits from team kill in opponent's team is that, anyone can join 2-3 games with players they don't like, do a team kill and then report it. As well as you guys, I am pretty convinced that Trismegist was behind those team kills, but banning him would create a precedent and a loophole for banning other players. So for now, I want to test if closing those team killing accounts and forcing those people to win 20 games for a couple of fake wins will work. If this doesn't work, I'll think of some other measures to stop that.
I can understand your point, still, I think in that case it's 100% obvious, as sereral players observed Trismegist leaving before the start if ending up in the same team with his allies.
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next candidate feeding Trismegist: "Randonluser", 4 games total, 4 loses, 4 times winning team Trismegist... coming from a very high initial MMR, so probalbly pushed to 20-0 with random freewins to be able to play bot games.
http://bghmmr.eu/player.php?player=RandonIuser
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... and just a moment later, I ended up in a game with both, both leaving after they got seeded in same team. Enough?
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/UrQO0ad.jpg)
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The problem with banning everyone who benefits from team kill in opponent's team is that, anyone can join 2-3 games with players they don't like, do a team kill and then report it.
As well as you guys, I am pretty convinced that Trismegist was behind those team kills, but banning him would create a precedent and a loophole for banning other players. So for now, I want to test if closing those team killing accounts and forcing those people to win 20 games for a couple of fake wins will work.
If this doesn't work, I'll think of some other measures to stop that.
I get your point, but nothing you decide to do needs to become a blanket rule or necessarily happen again in the future, each case is down to your final judgement on a case by case basis.
In this instance, you have many dozens of games of evidence, not 2 or 3, and several players with records spanning hundreds of games that are going to the effort to find and report the players in question. I think you can see that this goes far beyond any one player holding a small grudge against another.
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I've decided to ban Trismegist.
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/lf23Rxe.jpg)
His replays show a clear pattern of swapping between users. When one user is getting high APM, second one is idle and vice versa.
I think that this and a reoccurring pattern of opponents who team kill is a clear indication that he is controlling two players at the same time.
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On July 09 2021 16:31 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:
I've decided to ban Trismegist.
Excellent decision, thank you 
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Trismegist is the worst and toxic player that i've ever encountered, good job
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On July 09 2021 22:33 247 wrote:
Trismegist is the worst and toxic player that i've ever encountered, good job
That said, there are a lot of toxic retards around in those games, especially the guys giving a shit on anything, just trying to push through their mass-defense instant-Carrier or -BC shit and trying to be the big boy once in their miserable lifes, when they can win it 1v3 in the end 1 out of 10 times.
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On July 09 2021 16:31 D3AD-R3TARD wrote:I've decided to ban Trismegist. His replays show a clear pattern of swapping between users. When one user is getting high APM, second one is idle and vice versa. I think that this and a reoccurring pattern of opponents who team kill is a clear indication that he is controlling two players at the same time.
Nice catch! :D
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Thats so cool you checked APM curve to discover he plays 2 players at once xD
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On July 10 2021 21:35 IAMTHEONEO wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2021 22:33 247 wrote:
Trismegist is the worst and toxic player that i've ever encountered, good job That said, there are a lot of toxic retards around in those games, especially the guys giving a shit on anything, just trying to push through their mass-defense instant-Carrier or -BC shit and trying to be the big boy once in their miserable lifes, when they can win it 1v3 in the end 1 out of 10 times.
Got any examples of those who does that? Names?
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On July 11 2021 17:17 MeSaber wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2021 21:35 IAMTHEONEO wrote:On July 09 2021 22:33 247 wrote:
Trismegist is the worst and toxic player that i've ever encountered, good job That said, there are a lot of toxic retards around in those games, especially the guys giving a shit on anything, just trying to push through their mass-defense instant-Carrier or -BC shit and trying to be the big boy once in their miserable lifes, when they can win it 1v3 in the end 1 out of 10 times. Got any examples of those who does that? Names?
one I remember for sure is "ELVIS", but it feels like happening at least every 4-5 games, a lot of guys out there doing this shit.
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