Yellow Name On The Top is Head Coach ( cannot play ) Moo Proleague Season2 assigns a Head Coach to each sponser(company) and then Head Coach Picks their team member
감독 means Manager who cannot attend the match, they just manage their team 1픽 선수 means First Pick 2픽 선수 means Second Pick 3픽 선수 means Third Pick 4픽 선수 means Fourth Pick 5픽 선수 means Fifth Pick and the last one is female user
Maps : (4)Neo Sniper Ridge, (2)Sin Peaks of Baekdu, (2)Polaris Rhapsody, (4)Eye Of Typhoon, (3)Tau Cross, (4)GrandLine SE
Maps Only Use in Female Match : (4)Fighting Spirit, (4)Circuit Breakers
Tournament Will begin at 12/8(Sat), Time is Unknown (KST)
7set, 4set win in advance, final set is ace card
Quarterfinal is Dual-Tournament
Semifinal is the third-edition line ( if match score 1:1, will begin ace card match ) ex) Afreeca TV 4 : 1 Gamst K League, Afreeca TV 2 : 4 Gamst K League => Ace Card Match : Sharp vs Larva
What is the meaning of the person/persons in orange text? Are they the coach or can they play as well? In order of strength I rank the teams: 8, 1, 3, 2, 4, 7, 6, 5. Arguable for 5 ahead of 6 in the last 2 spots. Should be really fun to watch this Korea lifeblood was always the teamleague and winners league format imo.
On December 03 2018 00:22 Yanokabo wrote: What is the meaning of the person/persons in orange text? Are they the coach or can they play as well?
Orange Text means Head Coach Moo Proleague Season2 assign a Head Coach to each sponser(company) and then Head Coach Picks their team member 1픽 선수 means First Pick 2픽 선수 means Second Pick 3픽 선수 means Third Pick 4픽 선수 means Fourth Pick 5픽 선수 means Fifth Pick and the last one is female user
Wow how did Intotherainbow pick his team? JyJ as #2? ಠ_ಠ At least he got the best female player but still, aside from Last that team seems kinda weak :s
Rainbow's choices would make sense if it were 5/3, as you have a one win card in Last, and by picking weaker players you get another one win card in Cadenzie. But in a 7/4? I don't know what he was thinking.
Personally, I think Gamst's K League has the highest odds of winning. Go Reach!
Also the sponsors in English: Connects Zero Term (Nal_ra): seems to be a company that helps with important tests, specifically TOEIC. Seliver Shoes (Rainbow): obviously sells shoes. PicUP (Firebathero): honestly I don't get economics at all, but looks like a brand-influencer marketing platform with reaches in popular SNS platforms. AfreecaTV (Nada): yeah. Isoi Perfect Man (Zeus): beauty products. According to Zeus, his wife uses products from this company. Nol Kkot (Iris): an app that compares places to drink, eat, and generally engage in hedonism. Available on Google Play also. Gamst K League (Reach): Gamst is a popular streamer ("World Class") who does variety and soccer. He also has a great deal of passion for BW, and sometimes competes against Animal Tier female streamers. Shinhan Invest (Pusan): a Korean bank, and also sponsored the tournament aside from just a team.
Too bad Soulkey, Piano, Guemchi aren't on the same team (they have self-formed that way several times) Never seemed unbalanced, yet they've played well together.
On December 03 2018 02:41 CadenZie wrote: my teams sponsor is seliver shoes, everyone should go out and buy 10 pairs each to support my team, if you dont do it youre killing esports.
That explains it. I couldn't figure out why Last was browsing that site on his stream. Heh.
Before that, he was showing junny caron photos... I swear, he's going to look like Mong in 2 years doing that business!
On December 03 2018 02:41 CadenZie wrote: my teams sponsor is seliver shoes, everyone should go out and buy 10 pairs each to support my team, if you dont do it youre killing esports.
That explains it. I couldn't figure out why Last was browsing that site on his stream. Heh.
Before that, he was showing junny caron photos... I swear, he's going to look like Mong in 2 years doing that business!
I was going to make a joke about going out of business but that seems in poor taste considering his long term girlfriend broke up with him recently.
The reach team lacks an ace player, they will need strong and above usual performances week in and week out from piano/organ, larva, and horang2. Best will need to play his absolute “best”. I’m worried for Lasts team apart from him they really lack depth. Hyuk at one point was an amazing player on oz but at his worst he’s actually probably worse than ggaemo which is a strong statement. If ggaemo needs to win for your team to force an ace match I don’t think that’s good for you. Never heard of the other members of that team so I don’t expect good play but let’s see!
On December 03 2018 02:41 CadenZie wrote: my teams sponsor is seliver shoes, everyone should go out and buy 10 pairs each to support my team, if you dont do it youre killing esports.
I really like the rain action 1-2 punch that team can threaten to do to other teams. If mind can play at his peak form that team can eliminate a lot of other teams. Those uniforms can’t be what they’re wearing in the games if it is I’ll eat a pair of shoes
If they wear the space suits for games I will 100% support their team along with Rainbows, even if they are mostly all KT. I can wash my mouth with the fact Rain is on there.
On December 03 2018 07:42 RWLabs wrote: Rainbow's choices would make sense if it were 5/3, as you have a one win card in Last, and by picking weaker players you get another one win card in Cadenzie. But in a 7/4? I don't know what he was thinking.
Personally, I think Gamst's K League has the highest odds of winning. Go Reach!
Also the sponsors in English: Connects Zero Term (Nal_ra): seems to be a company that helps with important tests, specifically TOEIC. Seliver Shoes (Rainbow): obviously sells shoes. PicUP (Firebathero): honestly I don't get economics at all, but looks like a brand-influencer marketing platform with reaches in popular SNS platforms. AfreecaTV (Nada): yeah. Isoi Perfect Man (Zeus): beauty products. According to Zeus, his wife uses products from this company. Nol Kkot (Iris): an app that compares places to drink, eat, and generally engage in hedonism. Available on Google Play also. Gamst K League (Reach): Gamst is a popular streamer ("World Class") who does variety and soccer. He also has a great deal of passion for BW, and sometimes competes against Animal Tier female streamers. Shinhan Invest (Pusan): a Korean bank, and also sponsored the tournament aside from just a team.
Thanks, very useful info. It should be in the OP in my opinion
On December 03 2018 07:42 RWLabs wrote: Rainbow's choices would make sense if it were 5/3, as you have a one win card in Last, and by picking weaker players you get another one win card in Cadenzie. But in a 7/4? I don't know what he was thinking.
Personally, I think Gamst's K League has the highest odds of winning. Go Reach!
Also the sponsors in English: Connects Zero Term (Nal_ra): seems to be a company that helps with important tests, specifically TOEIC. Seliver Shoes (Rainbow): obviously sells shoes. PicUP (Firebathero): honestly I don't get economics at all, but looks like a brand-influencer marketing platform with reaches in popular SNS platforms. AfreecaTV (Nada): yeah. Isoi Perfect Man (Zeus): beauty products. According to Zeus, his wife uses products from this company. Nol Kkot (Iris): an app that compares places to drink, eat, and generally engage in hedonism. Available on Google Play also. Gamst K League (Reach): Gamst is a popular streamer ("World Class") who does variety and soccer. He also has a great deal of passion for BW, and sometimes competes against Animal Tier female streamers. Shinhan Invest (Pusan): a Korean bank, and also sponsored the tournament aside from just a team.
Thanks, very useful info. It should be in the OP in my opinion
yeah I had to open 3 windows to do that fantasy league team thing. Kept referencing this post, then the OP, then the player/team cost cause there isn't a single post that shows it all efficiently (and translated)
Also, why the f did they pick a map that was last played in 2001? I mean it's nice for the Zerg, but other than that.. they should've looked into Freaklings selection
On December 05 2018 07:48 FlopTurnReaver wrote: Also, why the f did they pick a map that was last played in 2001? I mean it's nice for the Zerg, but other than that.. they should've looked into Freaklings selection
What? Oldest map there is peaks of beakdu which was made in 07 I think and the last time it was played was something like last year
On December 05 2018 07:48 FlopTurnReaver wrote: Also, why the f did they pick a map that was last played in 2001? I mean it's nice for the Zerg, but other than that.. they should've looked into Freaklings selection
What? Oldest map there is peaks of beakdu which was made in 07 I think and the last time it was played was something like last year
Eye of Typhoon is 2001. It's fine though because it's a teamleague. Maps good for one raceway are ok there :D
On December 05 2018 07:48 FlopTurnReaver wrote: Also, why the f did they pick a map that was last played in 2001? I mean it's nice for the Zerg, but other than that.. they should've looked into Freaklings selection
What? Oldest map there is peaks of beakdu which was made in 07 I think and the last time it was played was something like last year
Eye of Typhoon is 2001. It's fine though because it's a teamleague. Maps good for one raceway are ok there :D
It's not eye of typhoon, it's eye of the storm tho.
On December 05 2018 07:48 FlopTurnReaver wrote: Also, why the f did they pick a map that was last played in 2001? I mean it's nice for the Zerg, but other than that.. they should've looked into Freaklings selection
What? Oldest map there is peaks of beakdu which was made in 07 I think and the last time it was played was something like last year
Eye of Typhoon is 2001. It's fine though because it's a teamleague. Maps good for one raceway are ok there :D
It's not eye of typhoon, it's eye of the storm tho.
Ah i see.. so it's just a mistake. Makes more sense now.
On December 05 2018 07:48 FlopTurnReaver wrote: Also, why the f did they pick a map that was last played in 2001? I mean it's nice for the Zerg, but other than that.. they should've looked into Freaklings selection
What? Oldest map there is peaks of beakdu which was made in 07 I think and the last time it was played was something like last year
Eye of Typhoon is 2001. It's fine though because it's a teamleague. Maps good for one raceway are ok there :D
It's not eye of typhoon, it's eye of the storm tho.
Just going to translate Stork's points on his rankings on the teams. Personally I put a lot of weight into what he says because he's played the game for such a long time and was a coach at one point. Note he really likes the word 'unreliable'.
8. Shinhan Investing (Pusan): Though it may seem odd to have a team with Flash rated so low, all of the other members are comparatively weak. Sera (Seo Yeonji) is not in great form, so can't guarantee a win either. For this team to work, Pusan must put out the entry correctly so that Flash always takes out the other team's ace.
(Honestly I feel that he underestimates Shine here, but even so Leta and Tyson are 1 lose cards, and there is no stability in Sea, Shine, or Sera.)
7. Seliver Shoes (Rainbow): Oz is a 100% one lose card, JyJ and Ggaemo a bit unreliable due to his long break, and Hyuk is weak to Terrans (in a Terran favoured map pool*). So Last and Cadenzie have to play Flash's role in this team, although Flash individually is a more reliable one win card.
*)During the team selection ceremony this seemed to be universally agreed, it's not Stork just whining.
6. PicUp (Firebathero): The female player here (I don't know her ID, Kkonibooging?) is relatively weak, and other than Effort, no players are reliable (including Stork in his own words). Mong is more of a Battlegrounds BJ, and Fake JD/Soma needs a good dice roll to do well. For the team to work, Stork thinks this team requires a bit of luck as the skill of male players feel random by the day.
(In fact, Firebathero beat Mong and Guemchi before Soma stopped him.)
5. Connects Zero Term (Nal_ra): NamDukSun is in the middle ground between good and bad. She's not great at ZvZ (22 losses to Cadenzie), but as a Zerg she can't even confidently beat Sera. Rain, Mind, and Action are very solid players though, but Rain being the ace player is questionable as only one map is good for Protoss. Plus Rain himself is not as reliable as Effort or Last. Finally, ForGG is too predicable (too many timing pushes) and Sasin does awful during competitions.
Also, the uniforms may cause the players to lose focus both due to the Afreeca chats and discomfort.
(Mind has been having issues with his wrist and he seems to be hanging out with the female streamer Hyeri a lot more. Not sure if Mind is all that reliable currently.)
4. Isoi Perfect Man (Zeus): Sangho and Movie are unreliable, although JD, Light, and Where are good players. The female player Ddobongsoon is similar to the NamDukSun in that she can't be trusted to beat any high tier female players. Sangho may actually be great, as Isoi could potentially match him against Flash which is like a 0.5 win.
(JD has talked about how MPL was the only reason he's playing SC now as he's planning to travel presumably before going to the army. Also, Zeus has contacted a sponsor and ensured that his team would get the finest gear, as according to him a coach's role is to be a father who lets his pupils perform.)
3. AfreecaTV (Nada):Though Jaehoon, Sacsri and Noble (a real asshole by the by), are weak cards, they're in the upper echelons in comparison to other teams. However, in comparison to the top two, they're not too reliable. Though they have Darin, they also have Noble (did I mention that he is a real asshole?).
(There was some debate whether Noble is good or not in Stork's chat.)
2. Nol Kkot (Iris): While placed in second place, Soulkey, Mini, Rush/ASLChampRush are good players. Even Calm isn't so bad that he should be deliberately used to take a hit from the other team's ace. Both this team and the next have excellent balance.
1. Gamst K League (Reach): Stork rated Aegong higher than SarangE. Also, Larva, Best, and Horang2 are all very solid players. Organ is an excellent Zerg sniper, but is good in other match-ups in comparison to Calm.
yeah we even did our photoshoots inside the big shinhan bank building in seoul speaking of which theres an event to vote for someone to get loads of money here http://www.shinhaninvest.com/event2/181203_MPL48/event.jsp no one votes me me tho RIP you can watch awkward videos from all the players on that site though
My mistake, Stork didn't call Noble an asshole- I did. That guy would trade ethics for a few star balloons.
Also if I had to guess why Koreans call Cadenzie "Denzie" is because Korean given names are (usually) two syllables, so they may feel more comfortable this way.
With the aid of true magic aka Google Translate i managed to browse the site and understand the names of the girls xD
However, whereas sponmatches results are easily accessible, I couldn't find informations of previous tournaments(LASL and stuffs) if not mentioned as achievements under the profile of the girls who won them.
Is there anything else regarding Afreeca Female tournaments on the site if you can properly read korean and look more carefully?
If youre interested though there is a few tournaments upcoming that i'll feature in; such as a full female proleague start of january where i'm on a team with sharkgirl (the girl who used to feature in many of jaedongs videos) and others. + Show Spoiler +
Also young&old season 2 ($4k prize pool) where i believe i'll be a team leader choosing my team of girls + old progamers... almost like a reverse MPL, LASL will probably be sometime in january too.
previously there has been queenimal league, female race wars, young and old season 1 and LASL in the past few months along with a bunch of animal/amoeba tier leagues/tournaments (such as LACL end of last month; which is like a a lower skilled LASL for newer girls). even i dont know about a alot of these leagues though and its not advertised anywhere in english, as there is assumed to be very little to no foreigner interest.
I might be wrong, but I guess the lack of demand is caused by the complete lack of availability for any non korean speaker; I think foreigners could actually be interest in Starcraft female leagues(and streamers) but the language barrier is too high at the moment.
I did not check Eloboard as accurately as Sponbbang, but it effectively seems to be more detailed as it lists important placements in addiction to victories. However, I couldn't find informations such as the age of the girls or dates and brackets of the previous tournaments(a Korean Liquipedia is needed xD).
If it could be of any interest, looking at Sponbbang i found out the following informations(Google Translate is directly responsible of the names of the girls I didn't already know):
-GGoni won LASL 1, Aegong won LASL 2-4-5, Kongdubu(Beancurd?) won LASL 3;
-Ponuna won LACS; -Sharkgirl won Hang Ent. Starcraft League;
-Patch won the Animal League in BBOSL while Ahrin won the Amoeba League;
-Apparently, both Deinti and Bruce won the YOUNG&OLD Hybrid League(were there two seasons?);
-Jiyu(Chzh?) won Moo Proleague S1(there are two entries here and I can't understand what 다승왕 means);
-There were seven winners of the Queen&Animal League, so i guess there were seven seasons(is it just a competition played by girls from both the leagues?); in no temporal order, Sera, Kongdubu, Ponuna, Deinti, Choehani, Honeybee and Warm.
I am very curious and i have tons of questions, such as when did the BJ phenomena become to fluorish, how could Darin not win anything being so good and playing so much or how is it that the girls are so good looking on average; however, it's not my intention to annoy you.
I will surely be following future tournaments now that we have an harbinger in Cadenzie
young&old was a team league so there is multiple winners, also same for queen&animal league; it was a team of 7 iirc, my team lost in the final after i dropped my game to sera and ggoni dropped hers to kongdubu, which i think has put ggoni on lifetilt since then; as she was our last player and if it goes to the ace match everyone expects me to win, and so she isnt performing as well as of late. I hope things pick up for her again soon.
most peoples usernames do mean things but i dont remember what everyones is, for example i think aegongs username means little princess or something?
Darin did win something... pianos 2v2 league season 2. she didnt win LASL because i beat her 3-0 in the semi final and she didnt enter the LASL before that apparently, but i dont know a whole lot about pre-cadenzie LASLs, and the people i asked in Korea said they didnt know much about them all until i came over too.
So i guess thats around when the higher level female players started to explode more in popularity, until then it was mostly the lower skilled females who everyone was interested in i believe (as seen in mpl1).
Darin's teams did badly in the BJ leagues too but that thing is partly a popularity contest tbh, its kind of about who can attract the best players to play with them since its not a draft. she is getting pretty strong though especially from learning zvt from piano for the past 5months. Now that aegong is on pianos team for mpl i fear she is also becoming a zvt monster. D:
aegong, darin, doomi, sera and I are all moderately close together on skill level so its pretty fun playing in events with them and i think we all improve well together.
On December 11 2018 11:41 Xain0n wrote: -Jiyu(Chzh?) won Moo Proleague S1(there are two entries here and I can't understand what 다승왕 means);
Jiyu/Chzh is Stork's fiancé. I can't remember who, but an Animal Tier player quit at the last second for Moo Proleague so she was brought in at the eleventh hour even though she's (in the lower half of) Queen Tier material. Also 다승왕 (lit: all win king) would translate as players with the most wins.
So onto a brief history of the female Starcraft scene. And as far as I'm aware the female Starcraft popularity really took off with Hang Entertainment's all female tournament led by Ginewda. This also seems to be why Effort/Ori3, Organ/Dudan, Best/Dotor2, Action/[like ten people] are still doing content where the progamers teach female players. The popularity of having progamers teach females culminated in the MPL, which was wildly successful and also featured meme-worthy games the hardcore Starcraft fans hadn't seen in a long time.
Zeus watching Dana lose after she got four dark templars into the main. Goes from ecstasy to despair in the space of five minutes.
It's a bit of a shame because Hang Entertainment collectively shit all over Starcraft fans and progamers before they left to play LoL.